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Javaman

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39. but you didn't answer the very sticky question...

Fri Jun 5, 2015, 02:52 PM

Jun 2015

that no one wants to ever answer...

how do we decrease population?

If demand was lower...again, to the question above?

let's first start with getting rid of the pesticides.

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Pesticides Killing Wild Bee Populations Necessary For World's Food Supply: Study [View all] avaistheone1 Jun 2015 OP

K&R. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #1

Problem is, we cast 'the right to reproduce' as a human right. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #2

Yes BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #19

People need to be confronted with the necessity to make a personal choice. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #23

FIFRA conditional registration loophole allows 11,000 untested/undertested pesticides wordpix Jun 2015 #64

I hear what you are saying but what we are seeing now is the effects of the baby boom population jwirr Jun 2015 #4

In the United States, population growth has slowed BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #15

Agree with that. jwirr Jun 2015 #16

Thanks, Brer Ivan - I have never thought that through erronis Jun 2015 #32

I don't think we need to trick or force people BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #42

And our economy is based on demand The2ndWheel Jun 2015 #24

ah yes, another, "we must control the population!!" posts... Javaman Jun 2015 #6

Farmers justify the use of excessive pesticides with the need to fulfill the demand for so much food JDPriestly Jun 2015 #26

but you didn't answer the very sticky question... Javaman Jun 2015 #39

Totalitarian dictatorships are probably the only way to do it effectively NickB79 Jun 2015 #54

so you are okay then with a totalitarian leadership "solving" the problem???? Javaman Jun 2015 #61

Either we will do it voluntarily or involuntarily BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #20

Except we aren't. There's lots and lots of fallow former-farmland. jeff47 Jun 2015 #22

Exactly - we gave small farms that fed much of the population up so that big-agra could make money. jwirr Jun 2015 #27

Yes. But if the demand for food is there, farmers will use pesticides to get the food. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #34

The point is the demand for food is "not there". That's why there are many abandoned farms. jeff47 Jun 2015 #37

I can give you a perfect example... Javaman Jun 2015 #41

+1000 nt Javaman Jun 2015 #40

Or livestock production could / should come to an end. chernabog Jun 2015 #25

Unfortunately taking animals out of the farming equation leads to more petroleum BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #53

consumer shelves are full of the systemic plant insecticides, Corps will not give up sales. Sunlei Jun 2015 #3

Last year our bees died in the winter and we had to pollinate our own gardens by hand last summer. jwirr Jun 2015 #5

did you have CDD? nt Javaman Jun 2015 #7

CDD? It was an extremely long and cold winter. Almost all bees up here in NE MN died and we are jwirr Jun 2015 #8

Sorry CCD Javaman Jun 2015 #18

Thank you and that is what most of us up her had. As to the winter we use shelter for them either jwirr Jun 2015 #21

dang, that's tough. Javaman Jun 2015 #36

There were 4 hives and yes they all died. My son-in-law remembers helping his uncle work with his jwirr Jun 2015 #46

Sounds like a wonderful set up. :) Javaman Jun 2015 #47

Glad you were able to save at least half of yours. I suspect that some of them from our area were jwirr Jun 2015 #48

Good luck on your next go around. :) Javaman Jun 2015 #49

Will tell my son-in-law that. Thanks. jwirr Jun 2015 #51

Wow, that's pretty bad. I don't see many honeybees in my garden, but I get large numbers of ... dmosh42 Jun 2015 #10

Your bees... Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #12

Right smack dab in the middle of Los Angeles, I have bees upon bees, all knds of bees JDPriestly Jun 2015 #29

Yes, you're right about the weeds being a big supplier to the bees for food. Most of my sightings... dmosh42 Jun 2015 #43

My grandfather was a farmer and purposely planted fields of clover to replenish the soil and JDPriestly Jun 2015 #57

I'm seeing very few pollinators this year wordpix Jun 2015 #62

We are mostly talking about the bee population in the USA. What is happening to the bees in the jwirr Jun 2015 #9

China is suffering bee loss as well. historylovr Jun 2015 #17

But monsanto has to earn profits... Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #11

I have seen just one honeybee in the backyard this year IDemo Jun 2015 #13

Most varieties of tomato plants, from my reading, are self-pollinating. As a matter of fact,... dmosh42 Jun 2015 #45

I haven't seen ANY & a beekeeper has hives close to our community garden wordpix Jun 2015 #63

I am going to follow President Obama's suggestions about bee and butterfly gardens. Wonder how jwirr Jun 2015 #14

I also grow milkweed galore for my Monarch (and other) butterflies. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #33

Our extended family have lots of rural are as well as two homes in town and we get seeds to plant jwirr Jun 2015 #35

I was out in the yard this morning and a beautiful Monarch was flying around nipping at my JDPriestly Jun 2015 #67

I'm growing milkweed, too. You can get cheap seeds here: wordpix Jun 2015 #65

Come on, this is America chapdrum Jun 2015 #28

Bees, bees! They're everywhere! Your weapons are useless against them! Calista241 Jun 2015 #30

Humans are too ignorant , greedy, cruel and dumb. They ladjf Jun 2015 #31

We humans are too successful The2ndWheel Jun 2015 #38

We lost our bee colonies as did our neighbors and we are suspicious that use of pesticides and Cleita Jun 2015 #44

There seem to be ... sendero Jun 2015 #50

I really need to find the link to the study I read. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #52

I don't have much problem.... sendero Jun 2015 #56

there IS one thing absolutely clear: EPA, FDA & Dept. of Ag are all run by Bushits wordpix Jun 2015 #68

Which is why they need to consider banning the pesticides and being more vigilant in cstanleytech Jun 2015 #55

The Monsanto Years DirtyHippyBastard Jun 2015 #58

K&R n/t susanna Jun 2015 #59

"...bees and people are a lot more intimate than one might think." Peace Patriot Jun 2015 #60

I say yes to your q b/c pesticides are linked to neuromuscular disorders wordpix Jun 2015 #66

Wow! Bees with Alzheimer's (from aluminum pollution). Peace Patriot Jun 2015 #69