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40. Since climate is chaotic, change is a constant factor

Sat Jun 6, 2015, 12:59 AM

Jun 2015

I believe change occurs each and every day. Whether warming or cooling, the planet's climate is always changing.

I see two questions from this fact:

1. How much, if any, effect does human activity increase/decrease this change?

2. If human activity does increase/decrease this change, how do we mitigate the increase/decrease?

I know that many scientists believe that humans are increasing the rate of change in global temperatures, but how do we drill down to know precisely what needs to change and how do we accomplish that change? There have been untold changes recorded in history, from mini-ice ages to our current warming. Given the complexity of climate, how do we identify, beyond a 50/50 guesstimate, what is causing change?

Can anyone help me here?

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Global warming 'hiatus' never happened, NOAA scientists say [View all] n2doc Jun 2015 OP

not an illusion. Wishful propaganda to cover up an inconvenient truth. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #1

K & R SunSeeker Jun 2015 #2

This is one of the best layman's explanation I have seen DirtyHippyBastard Jun 2015 #3

Excellent! Thank you! Peace Patriot Jun 2015 #9

Recommended! Bill USA Jun 2015 #4

kick, kick, kick.... daleanime Jun 2015 #5

A few more links and details here: Buzz Clik Jun 2015 #6

You mean the Koch Kingpins lied to us again? Jack Rabbit Jun 2015 #7

Well, when you change the data, you change the outcome. 7962 Jun 2015 #8

'Watts Up With That" are liars and frauds, funded by fossil fuel. If they don't like this, it's good muriel_volestrangler Jun 2015 #16

Doesnt matter who funds them,their point is still valid. 7962 Jun 2015 #17

You've fallen for their bullshit muriel_volestrangler Jun 2015 #19

Yes, using more buoy. The RIGHT ones too. 7962 Jun 2015 #21

Rubbish - the USA is still the world's 2nd largest CO2 emitter muriel_volestrangler Jun 2015 #22

The earth doesnt care about "per capita" 7962 Jun 2015 #33

The earth doesn't care about national boundaries either muriel_volestrangler Jun 2015 #34

My friend in CAL just installed a solar system. Palm Springs. 7962 Jun 2015 #37

Actually it does matter who funds them. yellowcanine Jun 2015 #30

I am so sick of that "since 1998" meme. That's just bad trend analysis. tclambert Jun 2015 #10

And yet that's what was done. Igel Jun 2015 #11

a very intelligent post n/t Psephos Jun 2015 #13

You are coming up with lots of innuendo and no facts muriel_volestrangler Jun 2015 #15

No, there isn't really dramatic warming if you start the trend in 1997 or 1999. DesMoinesDem Jun 2015 #24

Yes, there is. tclambert Jun 2015 #25

No, you're still wrong. Even when using the GISTEMP dataset that your graph uses DesMoinesDem Jun 2015 #29

You start your bogus trend lines at .5 and go up to .6, which IS a dramatic increase. tclambert Jun 2015 #31

Holy shit this is funny. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. DesMoinesDem Jun 2015 #32

If you have a data set of fluctuating values, straight lines ARE bad trend analysis. tclambert Jun 2015 #39

Stop embarrassing yourself. You're complaining about linear trend lines...like the one in the OP. DesMoinesDem Jun 2015 #41

BLS has been doing the same thing with employment statistics. Psephos Jun 2015 #12

it all depends on where you live Baclava Jun 2015 #14

Good comparison. nt 7962 Jun 2015 #18

Interesting to see the deniers here on DU n/t n2doc Jun 2015 #20

You must be using the Chinese meaning for "interesting" GliderGuider Jun 2015 #26

Well I don't want to get banned n/t n2doc Jun 2015 #27

Mind-boggling actually... truebrit71 Jun 2015 #28

Clearly the GOP doesn't have the market FULLY cornered on scientific illiteracy yet NickB79 Jun 2015 #36

Pity Red1 Jun 2015 #23

Conservative reaction: sofa king Jun 2015 #35

Some conservatives believe that the line must be totally linear complendio Jun 2015 #38

Since climate is chaotic, change is a constant factor Big_Mike Jun 2015 #40