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109. Chief of Police - its a Hate Crime

Thu Jun 18, 2015, 04:55 AM

Jun 2015

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/06/17/white-gunman-sought-in-shooting-at-historic-charleston-african-ame-church/

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Reports: Shooting in downtown Charleston, S.C., leaves at least 8 dead [View all] NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 OP

Awful shenmue Jun 2015 #1

Thank heavens his god-given second amendment right wasn't taken away. valerief Jun 2015 #2

Thank allah he did not understand chemistry seveneyes Jun 2015 #17

Stay classy. pablo_marmol Jun 2015 #101

Yep, just like Australia did n/t yodermon Jun 2015 #144

Yes, they just got fed up with gun violence and decided ENOUGH... CTyankee Jun 2015 #145

So what?! They didn't get the results that have been dishonestly claimed. pablo_marmol Jun 2015 #157

well, those stupid Aussies! They haven't repealed those laws and become good gun CTyankee Jun 2015 #168

Who cares what they do? It's apples and oranges as I've already pointed out. pablo_marmol Jun 2015 #169

still trotting gary kleck out?! This time as a liberal? CTyankee Jun 2015 #173

I don't care *what* liars think. And neither should you. pablo_marmol Jun 2015 #174

I'll let persons of integrity following this line of conversation be the judges. pablo_marmol Jun 2015 #175

I understand that you have your own sources and I have mine...which I have CTyankee Jun 2015 #172

LOL -- total non sequiter! pablo_marmol Jun 2015 #156

Australia banned guns after a mass shooting. yodermon Jun 2015 #163

I don't give a sh*t about Australia. It's utterly irrelevant to the point I was making. NT pablo_marmol Jun 2015 #165

Stay ammosexual. It IS a political issue. Off to Ignore! nt valerief Jun 2015 #153

My heart bleeds! pablo_marmol Jun 2015 #158

Wow, second reply in the thread. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #126

well, this IS a gun problem, a racism problem and a mental health problem... CTyankee Jun 2015 #137

The idea that we can "legislate away" evil and crazy is just about as intelligent pablo_marmol Jun 2015 #159

So that leaves us with legislation to ban guns, doesn't it? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2015 #160

Only if Prohibition and "The War on Drugs" has taught us nothing. pablo_marmol Jun 2015 #162

and the first one we got rid of and the second one we are working on changing. CTyankee Jun 2015 #166

"Throwing up our hands and giving up are not options, IMO." pablo_marmol Jun 2015 #170

Meh, doing nothing yields us nothing. "feel good'? Hah, we don't and won't feel good CTyankee Jun 2015 #171

"Hah, we don't and won't feel good until we break the death grip....... pablo_marmol Jun 2015 #176

Excellent, now comes Don Kates and all you need is your 3rd NRA fave to get the trifecta! CTyankee Jun 2015 #177

Black church. NewSystemNeeded Jun 2015 #3

It's an AME church. brush Jun 2015 #44

Naming the race of a suspect has long been frowned on in the south marshall Jun 2015 #51

naming the race heaven05 Jun 2015 #129

That was the unspoken assumption marshall Jun 2015 #161

they are "poor at their jobs" heaven05 Jun 2015 #125

Oh no Iliyah Jun 2015 #4

Coming up on Lawerene GP6971 Jun 2015 #5

Clean shaven, small, white man, approx 21 years old is still on the loose. applegrove Jun 2015 #6

If they know how old he is then they likely also know WHO he is 7962 Jun 2015 #7

from CNN Shooting reported at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in downtown Charleston NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #8

Not sure the one in custody is the right one as they first stopped a camera man and had him jwirr Jun 2015 #21

yup - the fog of news, always seems to happen - watching the live stream now NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #22

CNN is reporting a suspect matching description is in custody... Historic NY Jun 2015 #9

The same racist right-wing terrorists used to feel sated by burning down churches, Judi Lynn Jun 2015 #10

. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #12

fwiw, I don't usually link "Episcopal" with "fundamentalist" truebluegreen Jun 2015 #16

AMEs are not fundamentalist. brer cat Jun 2015 #23

The ones here where I live are. Jamastiene Jun 2015 #70

It is confusing. brer cat Jun 2015 #77

I live in a fairly small town. Jamastiene Jun 2015 #105

AME Zion Baptist church is not the same as AME brush Jun 2015 #149

I just explained that not all are the same. Jamastiene Jun 2015 #152

Sorry if I misunderstood brush Jun 2015 #154

Things in my hometown get twisted in ways that are unimaginable to most Jamastiene Jun 2015 #155

AME churches may be fundamentalists which often only means "literalists" but they are not often jwirr Jun 2015 #28

Methodist Episcopal aren't fundamentalist. You're correct. herding cats Jun 2015 #33

They are Methodist. Episcopal refers to their church authority system, with Bishops duhneece Jun 2015 #147

As far as I know, all protestant churches have services juajen Jun 2015 #40

Where did you get that AME is fundamentalist? brush Jun 2015 #48

If a church has prayer meetings on Wednesday night it most likely is fundamentalist Prostestant. Judi Lynn Jun 2015 #113

I am Episcopalian BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #118

I grew un in the AME church brush Jun 2015 #148

As herdingcats mentioned BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #110

Gun culture-y. nt onehandle Jun 2015 #11

This will be the last mass shooting until we have another one Botany Jun 2015 #13

Oh dear, Botany.. it's all so incredibly, unbearably, tragically sad.. Cha Jun 2015 #104

I have hunted and owned guns for years and I am sick of the gun culture and America's insane .... Botany Jun 2015 #119

I am sick of the heaven05 Jun 2015 #131

Goddamnit. 47of74 Jun 2015 #14

No kidding. calimary Jun 2015 #75

until racism is eradicated heaven05 Jun 2015 #133

Oh, no! herding cats Jun 2015 #15

OMG, that's so sad. juajen Jun 2015 #18

Streaming local coverage teach1st Jun 2015 #19

thanks. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #20

Thank you very much. lovemydog Jun 2015 #73

I am so glad heaven05 Jun 2015 #134

11:30 live stream indicates still searching for shooter. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #24

It's Better To Pray To Guns Than God SoCalMusicLover Jun 2015 #25

They seem to still be looking for the shooter wheniwasincongress Jun 2015 #26

On Lawrence O a reporter on the scene said that the first person they handcuffed turned out to be jwirr Jun 2015 #34

thanks. The guy in the photos wheniwasincongress Jun 2015 #37

"The suspect is a white male about 21-years-old and is wearing a grey sweatshirt or hoodie, Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #27

Terrible. brer cat Jun 2015 #29

not necessarily - live stream indicates they are still searching. confused situation (not surprising NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #30

cable only has re-runs. Have been flipping for awhile.. riversedge Jun 2015 #31

live reporting at this link - local news NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #32

Live Stream from the local CBS station... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #35

thank you riversedge Jun 2015 #39

breaking - bomb threat near the church - 10 minutes ago. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #36

Bomb threat called in. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #38

"21 year old male" wheniwasincongress Jun 2015 #41

11:53PM EDT Suspect still on the loose. Arrested man not the shooter. Renew Deal Jun 2015 #42

Press briefing expected shortly wheniwasincongress Jun 2015 #43

damn damn damn DonCoquixote Jun 2015 #45

reported on Twitter "ABC just reported that the Reverend Pinckney & his sister were two of the NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #46

Awful. Jamastiene Jun 2015 #47

The usual SwankyXomb Jun 2015 #63

What about racist gun obssessed amerikkkans heaven05 Jun 2015 #136

Link to Local News Livestream here: KeepItReal Jun 2015 #49

Man some really racist comments running beside the livestream! hollowdweller Jun 2015 #71

Oh no Oilwellian Jun 2015 #50

F*** Man from Pickens Jun 2015 #52

Pastor Emiritus was at a Hillary event earlier today. RandySF Jun 2015 #53

JUST IN: SC Gov. @nikkihaley on #charlestonchurchshooting riversedge Jun 2015 #54

so the party of non-stop hate radio doesn't understand what motivates this sort of thing? NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #55

a fish does not know it is swimming in water.... riversedge Jun 2015 #62

Availability of guns motivates them to act. onehandle Jun 2015 #68

Why doesn't Nimrod look at the flag they fly at the state house ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2015 #78

they do fly the confederate flag proudly heaven05 Jun 2015 #141

keep praying heaven05 Jun 2015 #138

Bush cancels events in SC and just posted this tweet ... riversedge Jun 2015 #56

A civilian on the street said a 90 year old woman and 5 year old child are dead Renew Deal Jun 2015 #57

Guns! Guns! Guns! SheilaT Jun 2015 #58

and it's endless - and it is hard to see the situation getting any better. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #59

Yep. It will never get better until the guns are taken away. SheilaT Jun 2015 #61

Not so easy romanic Jun 2015 #66

you're right heaven05 Jun 2015 #143

You make a good point bluestateguy Jun 2015 #103

#Charleston Mayor Riley calls... "unspeakable and heartbreaking tragedy." Awaiting presser riversedge Jun 2015 #60

This has to be "Obama's fault".....? Hulk Jun 2015 #64

FOX "News" will claim this guy is a liberal. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #69

"Registered Democrat" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2015 #81

I know I've been past that church and have read the sign out front Warpy Jun 2015 #65

People I know with fox news lobotomies project_bluebook Jun 2015 #82

Unfortunately, nine are confirmed dead. passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #88

Yes, I've kept up Warpy Jun 2015 #89

9 confirmed dead KeepItReal Jun 2015 #67

Thank you for the live stream. lovemydog Jun 2015 #72

State Senator Clementa Pickney is confirmed dead. Chicago1980 Jun 2015 #74

This just graduated from a news event to a historic event. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #80

here are my notes from the police/mayor news conference. labeled a hate crime. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #76

ABC News: Shooting Believed to be a Hate Crime, Police Chief Says Hissyspit Jun 2015 #79

So right now they have a description of the suspect lovemydog Jun 2015 #83

if they know more, they are not saying, according to the press conference info NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #84

Thank you. lovemydog Jun 2015 #85

I have the local news on and zip so far. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #86

Thanks. lovemydog Jun 2015 #87

This will not end well.... LovingA2andMI Jun 2015 #90

Thank you. Yes, I also read that this church lovemydog Jun 2015 #91

Thank You!!! LovingA2andMI Jun 2015 #92

When will the insanity end? Marrah_G Jun 2015 #99

Nine Dead in Shooting Rampage Inside South Carolina Church; Gunman at Large (includes news video) Rhiannon12866 Jun 2015 #93

I hope they catch the gunman soon. lovemydog Jun 2015 #94

Sounds like they have a good description, can't imagine he could get far Rhiannon12866 Jun 2015 #95

It could be awhile. Behind the Aegis Jun 2015 #96

Ah! Thanks! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2015 #97

my granddaughter is a student at the C of C. Thank god she's home now in MA... CTyankee Jun 2015 #135

I was thinking about you. Behind the Aegis Jun 2015 #151

I learned today that Roof had originally planned to go shoot up the C of C's campus CTyankee Jun 2015 #167

OMG this is terrible!!!!!! Marrah_G Jun 2015 #98

Donate directly to the church here: lovemydog Jun 2015 #100

That's a terrific idea! Thanks for posting this... Rhiannon12866 Jun 2015 #106

Horrific. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #102

Why? What horrible news to wake up to. Glimmer of Hope Jun 2015 #107

This is definitely a racist hate crime, and the feds better be involved still_one Jun 2015 #108

Chief of Police - its a Hate Crime JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #109

Reading some of those comments associated with the link you provided indicates a lot racist asses still_one Jun 2015 #111

I didn't read the comments JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #112

you are wise still_one Jun 2015 #146

I cannot go to bed until pugetres Jun 2015 #114

MSNBC - about 6:00 a.m. JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #123

Link to first pictures of the suspect. Marrah_G Jun 2015 #115

Police release images of assailant & car Bosonic Jun 2015 #116

those pictures send chills down my spine Amishman Jun 2015 #132

looks like fresh mud on his boots d_b Jun 2015 #142

Tragic. Hoping they catch this guy very very soon. alboe Jun 2015 #117

I was an adolescent in the '60s and recall LiberalElite Jun 2015 #120

Gunman specifically asked for Clementa Pinckney before shooting Bosonic Jun 2015 #121

Just terrible, awful news. So sad. (nt) Inkfreak Jun 2015 #122

Oh, but this can't be domestic terrorism because he's white, not brown Novara Jun 2015 #124

Prayers to the victims of this terrible crime. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #127

To wake up to some despicable, racist heaven05 Jun 2015 #128

Only in America. nruthie Jun 2015 #130

and state gun laws can be overcome with enough determination on the part of people CTyankee Jun 2015 #139

Nutjob d_b Jun 2015 #140

Suspect in custody. lovemydog Jun 2015 #150

This is so depressing mvd Jun 2015 #164