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thesquanderer

(13,174 posts)
11. Very revealing charts.
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 09:00 AM
Jun 2015

I understand the OP's enthusiasm ("YES! Now Bernie is at 24%!!! &quot -- after all, Bernie was barely a blip a couple of months ago. And maybe it's easy to think that his numbers will continue to grow as more people get to know him (after all, they all know HRC already).

But these charts show that these voters do know him, and still choose HRC overall... and it indicates exactly where the strengths and weaknesses are. They give Bernie his props for being authentic and for being more willing to take on Wall Street. But HRC wins on foreign policy, knowing how to get things done, and being perceived as being a stronger candidate in the general election.

So how can Bernie become more competitive in these areas?

For foreign policy, HRC's credentials are hard to top... Bernie mostly benefits in this area only to the extent that there are dems who, while acknowedling HRC's expertise, are uncomfortable with her hawkish slant. Jeb Bush announced a team of foreign policy advisors even before he officially declared himself a candidate. Maybe Sanders could make some inroads in this area by doing something similar.

Knowing how to get things done... well, Sanders has certainly been in Congress a long time. While understandably focusing on the future and what he wants to try to do, he'll need to find a way to also make people aware of what he has successfully accomplished in the past, as evidence that he can do more than just talk a good game. I love that he voted against things like IWR and Patriot Act and DOMA, but I like Sanders and even I can't tell you of anything he's actually accomplished. I understand that he has long been something of a David against a Goliath, and it's better to accomplish nothing than to facilitate bad policies, but if he could point to some legislative sucesses, that would help him in this area.

If he can address those two areas, that will go a long way toward addressing the third. By shoring up his weaknesses, and then continuing to gain on HRC, he will increasingly be seen as a viable candidate in November. It's a circular, self-fulfilling proposition: starting as the underdog has has been from the start, the more he wins, the more he will be seen as someone who can win.

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That's quite a chunk of support Chemisse Jun 2015 #1
Wonderful news. SamKnause Jun 2015 #3
I'm starting to believe Bernie's campaign is going to also raindaddy Jun 2015 #14
Indeed it is. Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #23
objects in your rear view mirror are closer than they appear... And gaining Berniementum! peacebird Jun 2015 #2
Note the use of the word "coronation" Android3.14 Jun 2015 #4
Growing problem? Hillary thinks she's been entitled for quite some time now. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2015 #17
This doesn't help... L0oniX Jun 2015 #28
She's doomed in the general november3rd Jun 2015 #40
Great news 4dsc Jun 2015 #5
Graphs of Clinton and Sanders--Iowa and NH riversedge Jun 2015 #6
Very revealing charts. thesquanderer Jun 2015 #11
You are correct, the reality is "cutting into the still huge lead" for Clinton. Thor_MN Jun 2015 #15
I think he needs to take a page out of JFK's book. Kennedy surrounded himself with good jwirr Jun 2015 #34
Hang onto these Plucketeer Jun 2015 #32
When I see how many think Clinton will fight for the average person I realize how uninformed Dustlawyer Jun 2015 #7
not to mention he will actually answer the questions restorefreedom Jun 2015 #45
That's for true! Dustlawyer Jun 2015 #47
I'm totally in for Bernie, but..... Chasstev365 Jun 2015 #8
I think that label has become meaningless. Jester Messiah Jun 2015 #20
Oh, they would use it for sure DFW Jun 2015 #22
First, they call every Democrat a socialist. jeff47 Jun 2015 #26
They've been caling Obama a socialist almost from the start, lol. BeanMusical Jun 2015 #29
right. i mean, if a "kenyan muslim socialist" could get elected restorefreedom Jun 2015 #46
But there is this.. DCBob Jun 2015 #9
These early numbers are encouraging florida08 Jun 2015 #10
I think one has to bear in mind the sheer number of corporatists raouldukelives Jun 2015 #21
very well said florida08 Jun 2015 #30
Dems Rock! Gamecock Lefty Jun 2015 #12
Are you aware of what caused florida08 Jun 2015 #13
A global recession? OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #39
ROFL florida08 Jun 2015 #43
The best documentary I have found is florida08 Jun 2015 #19
So you don't understand why Wall Street and big banks are hated? Wow! Where have you been? L0oniX Jun 2015 #25
And lost our retirement savings and our homes. We just love Wall Street. I wonder if he is prepared jwirr Jun 2015 #35
On DU many are at or approching retirement age. It's expected we will have investment class members L0oniX Jun 2015 #36
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #16
I needed a "lift" fredamae Jun 2015 #18
great job Bernie. stonecutter357 Jun 2015 #24
` L0oniX Jun 2015 #27
Kick and R BeanMusical Jun 2015 #31
And it should be noted that Iowa is a caucus state. That means that the polls have a hard time jwirr Jun 2015 #33
Let's be realistic and give the COMPLETE results of the two polls: George II Jun 2015 #37
Much more interesting will be what the numbers are in six months. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #38
Who are the biggest oligarchs in the Democratic party right now? november3rd Jun 2015 #41
K&R CharlotteVale Jun 2015 #42
I expected some early loft from Bernie, but not this much. Exultant Democracy Jun 2015 #44
FEEL THE BERN!!! cui bono Jun 2015 #48
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