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4. I agree. Current business / power models depend on growth. That has to change

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:40 AM

Jul 2015

The growth model was OK for a time, but now is no longer viable. Need to transition to no growth / declining population model. sustainable model. Not easy, but that is the challenge / new frontier we face.

BTW, this is good news for labor as demand for staff may better match population as productivity increases.

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Japan�s population decline the steepest on record [View all] yuiyoshida Jul 2015 OP

Great for Japan and planet. Wish this was true for other countries on point Jul 2015 #1

There's a downside to everything The2ndWheel Jul 2015 #3

I agree. Current business / power models depend on growth. That has to change on point Jul 2015 #4

I am stymied as to how the 10% think there will be "consumers" dixiegrrrrl Jul 2015 #11

The key word is sustainability TexasBushwhacker Jul 2015 #76

Absolutely! tabasco Jul 2015 #25

Much less FLPanhandle Jul 2015 #28

:) kkilicer Jul 2015 #51

I agree & maybe they'll stop killing so many whales for "research" wordpix Jul 2015 #78

I wonder if they're worried about birth defects from the Fukushima radiation. Beauregard Jul 2015 #2

It's more of a case of Japanese women wanting to remain single Art_from_Ark Jul 2015 #17

You base this on "a couple dozen Japanese women"? Beauregard Jul 2015 #24

This is an opinion board. former9thward Jul 2015 #26

Actually, I base that on 35+ years of being involved with Japan Art_from_Ark Jul 2015 #32

And I back him up based on my 30+ years of the same. Bonobo Jul 2015 #34

I don't have 30 years yuiyoshida Jul 2015 #59

Sounds like my son's experience, living/working in Tokyo for the past 2 years. fed-up Jul 2015 #64

It's called the "Demographic Transition" and is used in population projections and policy planning. bananas Jul 2015 #37

Here's a pretty good article about what's going on over there Renew Deal Jul 2015 #55

Thanks for the article, my son has been living in Tokyo for the past two years fed-up Jul 2015 #63

I think this is going to become more common the world over. smirkymonkey Jul 2015 #33

The same is true here in Korea davidpdx Jul 2015 #41

This is a result of economic depression. fasttense Jul 2015 #5

I don't think that's the case here in Japan Art_from_Ark Jul 2015 #18

Really? fasttense Jul 2015 #27

Economic concerns are not the main problem for men Art_from_Ark Jul 2015 #31

An interesting observation about sexless marriages after kids davidpdx Jul 2015 #42

Two things contributed to the decline in population vinny9698 Jul 2015 #6

Are you sure they gender terminate in Japan? Sunlei Jul 2015 #8

They don't gender terminate here in Japan Art_from_Ark Jul 2015 #19

You know, Japan, China, whatevas. mahina Jul 2015 #22

This one, that one...the other yuiyoshida Jul 2015 #23

;) mahina Jul 2015 #30

Dokodemo, minna ga onaji to mitai, ne? hatrack Jul 2015 #71

Sou ne, Genki dayo! yuiyoshida Jul 2015 #74

Iie, kochira koso! hatrack Jul 2015 #79

wwwwwwwww yuiyoshida Jul 2015 #80

Japan's population growth wasn't due to immigration. Igel Jul 2015 #10

They don't do this in Japan... yuiyoshida Jul 2015 #13

+1 nsd Jul 2015 #16

This happened in Korea as well davidpdx Jul 2015 #43

If you don't know what you are talking about, why pretend? nt Bonobo Jul 2015 #15

Japan Needs Immigrants dem in texas Jul 2015 #7

Excellent point. Without immigration the worker to retiree ratio will become unmanageable. (eom) StevieM Jul 2015 #9

"they and their children are the future consumers and tax payers." And caregivers. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #12

Japanese culture is not easy to adapt to Art_from_Ark Jul 2015 #20

That is interesting. Thank you for sharing that info with us. smirkymonkey Jul 2015 #35

Immigrants working in Japan Art_from_Ark Jul 2015 #38

Thank you! smirkymonkey Jul 2015 #39

My son said that it takes at least a year for the paperwork to get processed once a person leaves fed-up Jul 2015 #65

Yes, the immigration people prefer full-time work, Art_from_Ark Jul 2015 #68

might be a good idea to drop by our Asian group to find out yuiyoshida Jul 2015 #60

Same here in Korea, but I agree with the need for immigrants davidpdx Jul 2015 #44

Here are some graphs about the foreign population in Japan Art_from_Ark Jul 2015 #47

There are a huge number of weebos wanting to go there. joshcryer Jul 2015 #48

What exactly could they contribute to Japan? Art_from_Ark Jul 2015 #50

Yes, they'd be misfits. joshcryer Jul 2015 #53

Knowing the language is important, but it's not enough Art_from_Ark Jul 2015 #54

interesting... can you from your own communities within the larger one? Liberal_in_LA Jul 2015 #61

There are a few expat communities here Art_from_Ark Jul 2015 #62

thanks for the meetup suggestion-I will pass it to my son in Tokyo fed-up Jul 2015 #66

If he's in Tokyo, Art_from_Ark Jul 2015 #67

He did study abroad for 1 1/2 years, came home, graduated, then went back 2 years ago fed-up Jul 2015 #69

I wonder what Meetup groups your son tried Art_from_Ark Jul 2015 #70

I attended a lecture by a demographer some years back daleo Jul 2015 #14

Japan's population is about 4X that of California, Art_from_Ark Jul 2015 #21

Perhaps. But how will... Adrahil Jul 2015 #29

Tax the rich, raise wages. joshcryer Jul 2015 #52

That math doesn't work. Adrahil Jul 2015 #56

Any system that is underpinned be an assumption of rising population is unsustainable daleo Jul 2015 #57

Yep. joshcryer Jul 2015 #49

More countries should follow. romanic Jul 2015 #36

Korea has a similar problem with the population decline for many of the same reasons davidpdx Jul 2015 #40

It's been well known that Japan has a mostly older population and a small younger one. trillion Jul 2015 #45

Article about Korean Weddings davidpdx Jul 2015 #46

I think the US is still heading towards zero population growth 47of74 Jul 2015 #58

Immigration can be a huge factor in population growth vinny9698 Jul 2015 #72

It happens Chirpio Jul 2015 #73

Welcome to DU yuiyoshida Jul 2015 #75

That's why they're building robots donna123 Jul 2015 #77