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Kelvin Mace

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77. After skull-f*cking us, it will be just a little too late!

Reply to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:07 PM

Jul 2015

Next up, George Bush and Dick Cheney will seek to repair rift with Saddam Hussein.

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AFTER TRADE DEAL, OBAMA SEEKS TO REPAIR RIFT WITH LABOR [View all] Omaha Steve Jul 2015 OP

I no longer want to vote for Ron Kind. Lifelong Protester Jul 2015 #1

That's my plan for Wasserman-Schultz and Bill Nelson. djean111 Jul 2015 #76

he can't mend any rift with labor. Ever. roguevalley Jul 2015 #94

I noted his charm offensive... grasswire Jul 2015 #2

Primary Ron Kind Vincardog Jul 2015 #3

Overtime pay won't help if the jobs are gone...nt freebrew Jul 2015 #4

+1 daleanime Jul 2015 #6

+2 Populist_Prole Jul 2015 #7

There are lots and lots of jobs that couldn't be sent overseas under any circumstances. Hoyt Jul 2015 #9

Why should someone with a good job, with livable wages and benefits give it up? Fuddnik Jul 2015 #12

Actually jobs are looking up for folks over 50, if you have some skills. Hoyt Jul 2015 #30

! Fuddnik Jul 2015 #36

As soon as they can find a way, the "all but impossible to send" jobs will be gone too. Just 1monster Jul 2015 #64

it always kills me when people say 'my job is safe' HFRN Jul 2015 #68

I've Been Laid Off RobinA Jul 2015 #85

Obviously, if they figure out a way. Love to see how they handle police, fire, construction, etc. Hoyt Jul 2015 #72

Robocops... They are using drones to go after Taliban and others. It's not a long hop 1monster Jul 2015 #90

Now you are talking technology. You want to impede that, like you want to impede Hoyt Jul 2015 #92

I'm fine with immigrants. I just don't like that many, many times they are not paid as much 1monster Jul 2015 #95

We get that you don't like Americans who aren't the 1%. n/t brentspeak Jul 2015 #103

We get, you don't get the world is changing and you can't fight it without losing longterm. Hoyt Jul 2015 #106

+10 appalachiablue Jul 2015 #107

guaranteed income --- good luck with that one Angry Dragon Jul 2015 #70

If only they didn't have to add this little qualifier passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #98

You didn't list ONE mfg job... freebrew Jul 2015 #14

How did you lose your job? William Seger Jul 2015 #25

Big capital type buyout of the company... freebrew Jul 2015 #109

How do you explain the growth of manufacturing America has enjoyed these past 6 years? Sunlei Jul 2015 #27

By looking further back than 6 years. jeff47 Jul 2015 #51

# of factories manufacturing across the United States is growing for the first time since the 1990s Sunlei Jul 2015 #57

Keep going back. jeff47 Jul 2015 #58

nope. Sunlei Jul 2015 #60

Numbers got too ugly, huh? (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #61

no, I don't believe you. Sunlei Jul 2015 #63

Governor Kasich is always quick to talk about that 70k job 'gain'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #56

we will never get the majority of 'jobs' back that went to mexico and other countries. 30-40 Sunlei Jul 2015 #59

how do you account for the falling wages in mfg jobs passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #100

No longer true now days, although there is still a lot of manufacturing in this country. Hoyt Jul 2015 #35

Being that this is 2015 and not 1915, just listing a bunch of service jobs that can't be jtuck004 Jul 2015 #24

actually the Gov website has a lot of job openings.60 alone in my tiny towns zipcode. try yours Sunlei Jul 2015 #32

So how are you going to make our products competitive. Our own citizens prefer to Hoyt Jul 2015 #37

"Competitive"? With what, lowest common denominator? Actually I think most of the ideas about jtuck004 Jul 2015 #47

'Prefer'? Hardly. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #67

Ever heard of inflation? Hoyt Jul 2015 #71

Sure, and I've heard of math, too. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #88

I'm for big increases in minimum wage. Inflation is not just a result of higher labor costs. Hoyt Jul 2015 #91

+1 appalachiablue Jul 2015 #108

Henry Ford knew he had to pay his workers enough to buy cars! Divernan Jul 2015 #29

That's what the $15/hour minimum wage is about, new overtime regs, etc. Hoyt Jul 2015 #38

yes, Ford was the first one to raise the pay. Wish Congress would raise the Fed. minimum. Sunlei Jul 2015 #40

Sorry, these aren't the only jobs that are around. lark Jul 2015 #50

Radiology might be outsourced in some cases, of course threat of law suits helps there. Hoyt Jul 2015 #75

I hate this trade deal, and I am pissed at Obama for doing it. But I also love what he has done randys1 Jul 2015 #53

Who needs a plumber when they can't afford a house? jeff47 Jul 2015 #55

A lot of the jobs on your list are being staffed by illegal immigrants. Beauregard Jul 2015 #65

Ah, the anger against ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS? I swear, some of the stuff here is really disgusting. Hoyt Jul 2015 #73

It's anger against the capitalists who hire them... Beauregard Jul 2015 #83

Sorry, man, we live in a global world. Not to mention, we've sucked up more than our share Hoyt Jul 2015 #84

That's a standard Republican talking point. candelista Jul 2015 #86

Of course teaching can be sent overseas. former9thward Jul 2015 #80

How many teach like that?-- Not many. Did it tick you off that a few Mexican truck drivers got a job Hoyt Jul 2015 #81

It ticked me off U.S. drivers lost theirs. former9thward Jul 2015 #82

+10000 peacebird Jul 2015 #10

So, all 5 million jobs this applies to will evaporate? nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #11

Oh great Plucketeer Jul 2015 #18

The businesses lobbied against it, and no not all of those jobs are going geek tragedy Jul 2015 #20

So the burgeoning American labor force Plucketeer Jul 2015 #23

they wont all go it will help those that still have them Romeo.lima333 Jul 2015 #16

Careful where you say that! Plucketeer Jul 2015 #17

Never utter blasphemy to the personality cult... [n/t] Maedhros Jul 2015 #52

exactly. nice of them to toss a bone magical thyme Jul 2015 #43

Let's see Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #78

+2 Use brain. How stupid do they think we are, really. appalachiablue Jul 2015 #105

"Rift"?? moonbeam23 Jul 2015 #5

All talk and no action. It's just so easy for him to lie anymore fasttense Jul 2015 #8

The rift he helped to create and now wants to repair? hobbit709 Jul 2015 #13

That's what you call "too little , too late". nt ladjf Jul 2015 #15

A little pat on the back after ignoring us loudly? madfloridian Jul 2015 #19

More like after berating us so loudly. hedda_foil Jul 2015 #74

Like an abusive spouse Geronimoe Jul 2015 #21

Too Late, imthevicar Jul 2015 #22

"Screw you...but we like you though" Populist_Prole Jul 2015 #26

Easy enough to do HassleCat Jul 2015 #28

I thought all Presidents had fast track Trade authority? Sunlei Jul 2015 #41

fast track has an expiration date. the old one expired some time ago. magical thyme Jul 2015 #44

guess it would suck if some president had a congress that obstructed, blocked and nit-picked Sunlei Jul 2015 #45

It would depend on what those moves are. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #69

what sucks is that the constitution expressly gives sole authority to regulate commerce to congress magical thyme Jul 2015 #93

In this particular case (the TPP), it wouldn't "suck" at all (n/t) brentspeak Jul 2015 #104

How? By endorsing Bernie Sanders before the Primary? Because that is the ONLY likely silvershadow Jul 2015 #31

his has more to do with covering the asses of Democrats that sided with the GOP blackspade Jul 2015 #33

Obama (translated) to American workers: "How may I appear to help you? nt NCjack Jul 2015 #49

How does overtime pay help someone onecaliberal Jul 2015 #34

good luck with that Barak. Loved you but not the way this deal was rammed through. samsingh Jul 2015 #39

NT ibewlu606 Jul 2015 #42

Obama said, organized labor is always against trade'. Not that exact quote but something like that. Sunlei Jul 2015 #46

Wow! ibewlu606 Jul 2015 #96

Too little, too late. lark Jul 2015 #48

He sold out 90% and is paying off the remainder to shut up about it. n/t betterdemsonly Jul 2015 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2015 #62

they always toss you a crumb, to make up for stealing your dinner nt HFRN Jul 2015 #66

After skull-f*cking us, it will be just a little too late! Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #77

It's like Reagan was an actor who became a politician. Obama is a CharlotteVale Jul 2015 #79

If this is the rumored help for the Dems who voted for Fast Track - there is not enough djean111 Jul 2015 #87

Just how many people will this new overtime apply to? nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #89

none. what jobs aren't shipped overseas will have their hours cut to keep them under the limit. nt magical thyme Jul 2015 #97

I'm afraid Obama has lost labor significantly over this TPP fiasco. Rightfully so. EndElectoral Jul 2015 #99

If he was really concerned it should have been in the TPP DJ13 Jul 2015 #101

If he really feels so bad Nite Owl Jul 2015 #102

this. yurbud Jul 2015 #110

Wonderful response. senseandsensibility Jul 2015 #112

Liars gonna lie MFrohike Jul 2015 #111