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86. That's a standard Republican talking point.

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:43 PM

Jul 2015

It doesn't justify the deliberate expansion of the US labor pool to drive down wages and working conditions for American workers.

If you want to help people in poor countries, send some money to Oxfam. That's what I do.

Here's a link to their site: http://www.oxfamamerica.org/

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AFTER TRADE DEAL, OBAMA SEEKS TO REPAIR RIFT WITH LABOR [View all] Omaha Steve Jul 2015 OP

I no longer want to vote for Ron Kind. Lifelong Protester Jul 2015 #1

That's my plan for Wasserman-Schultz and Bill Nelson. djean111 Jul 2015 #76

he can't mend any rift with labor. Ever. roguevalley Jul 2015 #94

I noted his charm offensive... grasswire Jul 2015 #2

Primary Ron Kind Vincardog Jul 2015 #3

Overtime pay won't help if the jobs are gone...nt freebrew Jul 2015 #4

+1 daleanime Jul 2015 #6

+2 Populist_Prole Jul 2015 #7

There are lots and lots of jobs that couldn't be sent overseas under any circumstances. Hoyt Jul 2015 #9

Why should someone with a good job, with livable wages and benefits give it up? Fuddnik Jul 2015 #12

Actually jobs are looking up for folks over 50, if you have some skills. Hoyt Jul 2015 #30

! Fuddnik Jul 2015 #36

As soon as they can find a way, the "all but impossible to send" jobs will be gone too. Just 1monster Jul 2015 #64

it always kills me when people say 'my job is safe' HFRN Jul 2015 #68

I've Been Laid Off RobinA Jul 2015 #85

Obviously, if they figure out a way. Love to see how they handle police, fire, construction, etc. Hoyt Jul 2015 #72

Robocops... They are using drones to go after Taliban and others. It's not a long hop 1monster Jul 2015 #90

Now you are talking technology. You want to impede that, like you want to impede Hoyt Jul 2015 #92

I'm fine with immigrants. I just don't like that many, many times they are not paid as much 1monster Jul 2015 #95

We get that you don't like Americans who aren't the 1%. n/t brentspeak Jul 2015 #103

We get, you don't get the world is changing and you can't fight it without losing longterm. Hoyt Jul 2015 #106

+10 appalachiablue Jul 2015 #107

guaranteed income --- good luck with that one Angry Dragon Jul 2015 #70

If only they didn't have to add this little qualifier passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #98

You didn't list ONE mfg job... freebrew Jul 2015 #14

How did you lose your job? William Seger Jul 2015 #25

Big capital type buyout of the company... freebrew Jul 2015 #109

How do you explain the growth of manufacturing America has enjoyed these past 6 years? Sunlei Jul 2015 #27

By looking further back than 6 years. jeff47 Jul 2015 #51

# of factories manufacturing across the United States is growing for the first time since the 1990s Sunlei Jul 2015 #57

Keep going back. jeff47 Jul 2015 #58

nope. Sunlei Jul 2015 #60

Numbers got too ugly, huh? (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #61

no, I don't believe you. Sunlei Jul 2015 #63

Governor Kasich is always quick to talk about that 70k job 'gain'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #56

we will never get the majority of 'jobs' back that went to mexico and other countries. 30-40 Sunlei Jul 2015 #59

how do you account for the falling wages in mfg jobs passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #100

No longer true now days, although there is still a lot of manufacturing in this country. Hoyt Jul 2015 #35

Being that this is 2015 and not 1915, just listing a bunch of service jobs that can't be jtuck004 Jul 2015 #24

actually the Gov website has a lot of job openings.60 alone in my tiny towns zipcode. try yours Sunlei Jul 2015 #32

So how are you going to make our products competitive. Our own citizens prefer to Hoyt Jul 2015 #37

"Competitive"? With what, lowest common denominator? Actually I think most of the ideas about jtuck004 Jul 2015 #47

'Prefer'? Hardly. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #67

Ever heard of inflation? Hoyt Jul 2015 #71

Sure, and I've heard of math, too. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #88

I'm for big increases in minimum wage. Inflation is not just a result of higher labor costs. Hoyt Jul 2015 #91

+1 appalachiablue Jul 2015 #108

Henry Ford knew he had to pay his workers enough to buy cars! Divernan Jul 2015 #29

That's what the $15/hour minimum wage is about, new overtime regs, etc. Hoyt Jul 2015 #38

yes, Ford was the first one to raise the pay. Wish Congress would raise the Fed. minimum. Sunlei Jul 2015 #40

Sorry, these aren't the only jobs that are around. lark Jul 2015 #50

Radiology might be outsourced in some cases, of course threat of law suits helps there. Hoyt Jul 2015 #75

I hate this trade deal, and I am pissed at Obama for doing it. But I also love what he has done randys1 Jul 2015 #53

Who needs a plumber when they can't afford a house? jeff47 Jul 2015 #55

A lot of the jobs on your list are being staffed by illegal immigrants. Beauregard Jul 2015 #65

Ah, the anger against ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS? I swear, some of the stuff here is really disgusting. Hoyt Jul 2015 #73

It's anger against the capitalists who hire them... Beauregard Jul 2015 #83

Sorry, man, we live in a global world. Not to mention, we've sucked up more than our share Hoyt Jul 2015 #84

That's a standard Republican talking point. candelista Jul 2015 #86

Of course teaching can be sent overseas. former9thward Jul 2015 #80

How many teach like that?-- Not many. Did it tick you off that a few Mexican truck drivers got a job Hoyt Jul 2015 #81

It ticked me off U.S. drivers lost theirs. former9thward Jul 2015 #82

+10000 peacebird Jul 2015 #10

So, all 5 million jobs this applies to will evaporate? nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #11

Oh great Plucketeer Jul 2015 #18

The businesses lobbied against it, and no not all of those jobs are going geek tragedy Jul 2015 #20

So the burgeoning American labor force Plucketeer Jul 2015 #23

they wont all go it will help those that still have them Romeo.lima333 Jul 2015 #16

Careful where you say that! Plucketeer Jul 2015 #17

Never utter blasphemy to the personality cult... [n/t] Maedhros Jul 2015 #52

exactly. nice of them to toss a bone magical thyme Jul 2015 #43

Let's see Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #78

+2 Use brain. How stupid do they think we are, really. appalachiablue Jul 2015 #105

"Rift"?? moonbeam23 Jul 2015 #5

All talk and no action. It's just so easy for him to lie anymore fasttense Jul 2015 #8

The rift he helped to create and now wants to repair? hobbit709 Jul 2015 #13

That's what you call "too little , too late". nt ladjf Jul 2015 #15

A little pat on the back after ignoring us loudly? madfloridian Jul 2015 #19

More like after berating us so loudly. hedda_foil Jul 2015 #74

Like an abusive spouse Geronimoe Jul 2015 #21

Too Late, imthevicar Jul 2015 #22

"Screw you...but we like you though" Populist_Prole Jul 2015 #26

Easy enough to do HassleCat Jul 2015 #28

I thought all Presidents had fast track Trade authority? Sunlei Jul 2015 #41

fast track has an expiration date. the old one expired some time ago. magical thyme Jul 2015 #44

guess it would suck if some president had a congress that obstructed, blocked and nit-picked Sunlei Jul 2015 #45

It would depend on what those moves are. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #69

what sucks is that the constitution expressly gives sole authority to regulate commerce to congress magical thyme Jul 2015 #93

In this particular case (the TPP), it wouldn't "suck" at all (n/t) brentspeak Jul 2015 #104

How? By endorsing Bernie Sanders before the Primary? Because that is the ONLY likely silvershadow Jul 2015 #31

his has more to do with covering the asses of Democrats that sided with the GOP blackspade Jul 2015 #33

Obama (translated) to American workers: "How may I appear to help you? nt NCjack Jul 2015 #49

How does overtime pay help someone onecaliberal Jul 2015 #34

good luck with that Barak. Loved you but not the way this deal was rammed through. samsingh Jul 2015 #39

NT ibewlu606 Jul 2015 #42

Obama said, organized labor is always against trade'. Not that exact quote but something like that. Sunlei Jul 2015 #46

Wow! ibewlu606 Jul 2015 #96

Too little, too late. lark Jul 2015 #48

He sold out 90% and is paying off the remainder to shut up about it. n/t betterdemsonly Jul 2015 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2015 #62

they always toss you a crumb, to make up for stealing your dinner nt HFRN Jul 2015 #66

After skull-f*cking us, it will be just a little too late! Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #77

It's like Reagan was an actor who became a politician. Obama is a CharlotteVale Jul 2015 #79

If this is the rumored help for the Dems who voted for Fast Track - there is not enough djean111 Jul 2015 #87

Just how many people will this new overtime apply to? nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #89

none. what jobs aren't shipped overseas will have their hours cut to keep them under the limit. nt magical thyme Jul 2015 #97

I'm afraid Obama has lost labor significantly over this TPP fiasco. Rightfully so. EndElectoral Jul 2015 #99

If he was really concerned it should have been in the TPP DJ13 Jul 2015 #101

If he really feels so bad Nite Owl Jul 2015 #102

this. yurbud Jul 2015 #110

Wonderful response. senseandsensibility Jul 2015 #112

Liars gonna lie MFrohike Jul 2015 #111