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JDPriestly

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81. Obama gives good speeches, but he is not a fighter.

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 12:03 AM

Jul 2015

I think that Bernie Sanders is quite a fighter. I think he will use his bully pulpit. Obama has not done that.

Further, I agree with Sanders' policy proposals even more than I did with Obama. I was originally a John Edwards supporter. I worked for a homeless project that mostly served homeless African-American men. So poverty and economic justice are important issues to me. Racism, sexism, the cheating, the fraud, by Wall Street and many other issues are important to me.

I think that Hillary is a nice woman, but so many of the bills that Bill Clinton signed have proved to have disastrous effects for our economy and for so many Americans that I cannot support her. In addition, she voted for the Iraq War although she was strongly advised against that vote by the women of Code Pink (I'm not a member and not affiliated with them.) who had been to Iraq and described the suffering of the Iraqi prior to the war. I don't think she has as good a judgment as Bernie has.

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Bernie Sanders sees poll surge after series of record-breaking appearances [View all] alboe Jul 2015 OP

What is happening has never happened that I know of, and all political players are going randys1 Jul 2015 #1

Obama used the internet well, but this time the internet is picking its own candidate fbc Jul 2015 #6

Bernie is saying something none of the mainstream candidates have ever said randys1 Jul 2015 #8

I also think that his personal wealth enters into the interest of the common people. Frustratedlady Jul 2015 #73

the unvarnished truth, you mean? wordpix Jul 2015 #91

Obama owed a lot to Dean's 50-state strategy but never acknowledged it emsimon33 Jul 2015 #12

He also owed a lot to all of the Wall Street money that he got in '07 and '08. Chakab Jul 2015 #27

Well, I don't think we will have that problem with Bernie Sanders Mnpaul Jul 2015 #69

"this time the internet is picking its own candidate" is very well put. Yes, we Cal33 Jul 2015 #15

The Washington Villagers are still using models from before the Internet. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #36

+1000 wordpix Jul 2015 #90

Giving weight to his eventual endorsement of Hillary for President for 2016. nt onehandle Jul 2015 #2

Give it a rest. n/t Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #23

LOL! Nice try. peacebird Jul 2015 #48

I think you need to flip that Aerows Jul 2015 #54

yeah, just like she was "inevitable" against Obama wordpix Jul 2015 #92

But he is still in second. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #3

It's been two weeks.... he's got 7-8 months. fbc Jul 2015 #5

And that's just till the start of the primaries. He has more time than the Clinton camp would Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #9

The other candidares has as much time Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #10

Exactly! and who else is doing anything close to the surge we've seen from Bernie? fbc Jul 2015 #14

Guess records was not watched when Hillary surged to the top. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #20

Ya think? fbc Jul 2015 #26

she should worry. he has warmth, a quality that she doesn't really have or she wouldn't screen roguevalley Jul 2015 #28

Bernie isn't Obama. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #30

Nope, he's better fbc Jul 2015 #40

Absolutely Correct! nt R. P. McMurphy Jul 2015 #42

In which regard? Obama gave the keynote address in the DNC Primary, a very Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #43

True. But, since then, the country has made note that "good speaker" doesn't equal "good leader." PSPS Jul 2015 #56

True, except in the case of Obama has gotten results, the results will be a part of the history Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #57

Speaking great Plucketeer Jul 2015 #83

Maybe healthcare does not help you today but things change, without stopping pre-existing conditions Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #84

Yup, I do know about the changes to HC. Plucketeer Jul 2015 #86

It is easy to "blame Obama", please give Obama some credit, no it is not single payer. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #88

Here is how Bernie is better: his Wisconsin speech. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #58

So you judge it by the number of people he had jumping up and down. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #66

No. I don't judge him by people jumping up and down. I judge him by what he says. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #67

Bringing Bernie's speech in from Wisconsion does not prove Bernie is better than Obama with Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #68

Obama gives good speeches, but he is not a fighter. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #81

unban me Thanks. stonecutter357 Jul 2015 #85

Hope was good, but now we want action. fbc Jul 2015 #70

exactly! He doesn't accept the Wall St./corporate legalized bribes wordpix Jul 2015 #93

Thank Gawd! Fuddnik Jul 2015 #60

Oh I'm pretty sure that Hillary does indeed worry about the "small stuff" tularetom Jul 2015 #38

It will be different 6 months from now. Wait and see. :) Cal33 Jul 2015 #17

And we haven't even started..... daleanime Jul 2015 #21

we haven't even started door knocking yet! wordpix Jul 2015 #94

Think about this; Bernie takes 10 more points from Hillary and he is in the lead! A Simple Game Jul 2015 #25

Now they will be splitting between Webb, O'Malley, Sanders and Hillary. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #31

You forgot Biden and Chafee, not that it matters. A Simple Game Jul 2015 #39

I expect other candidates to hurt Clinton more than Sanders metalbot Jul 2015 #76

I don't know if Hillary will be hurt but i do expect Sanders to be hurt. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #77

I think the "well rounded" is exactly why it hurts Hillary more than Bernie metalbot Jul 2015 #78

In one caucus state OKNancy Jul 2015 #50

It's a start. n/t A Simple Game Jul 2015 #53

Funny, we were told the same thing in 2008 by Clinton's campaign davidpdx Jul 2015 #79

They better start looking for another undeclared candidate NorthCarolina Jul 2015 #4

Same reason they still call him a "long shot" despite coming in 2nd. arcane1 Jul 2015 #11

You know, it is theoretically possible to repeal the 22nd amendment jeff47 Jul 2015 #18

Jim Webb just declared, so there you go. [n/t] Maedhros Jul 2015 #22

Oh goody... NorthCarolina Jul 2015 #41

Looks like Biden's in too. [n/t] Maedhros Jul 2015 #45

I expected this Mnpaul Jul 2015 #71

OK, here's how the media would spin that: NorthCarolina Jul 2015 #72

This was in Madison, Wisconsin, home of the University of Wisconsin. candelista Jul 2015 #7

So NYC is a bastion of conservatism? jeff47 Jul 2015 #16

What is your point? candelista Jul 2015 #29

You're claiming the massive crowd in Madison is due to it being a liberal enclave. jeff47 Jul 2015 #32

Where did I claim that? candelista Jul 2015 #37

In your first post in the thread. jeff47 Jul 2015 #47

How many college students are on campus in July? winter is coming Jul 2015 #55

That's what I was thinking. They are mostly at home. I was at the rally AllyCat Jul 2015 #82

She had a crowd equal to Bernie for the announcement - but she was in freaking NYC, he was Vermont peacebird Jul 2015 #49

And has what 10x the population? Kalidurga Jul 2015 #33

Actually, 32x the population. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #35

even better nt Kalidurga Jul 2015 #74

And the 40,000 students Pharaoh Jul 2015 #102

Still in 2nd place to the established candidate, but so is Donald Trump, which speaks volumes. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #13

Maybe a volume of "Fun With Dick and Jane", but that's about it. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #19

Bizarre post. n/t Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #24

Bizarre response. nt Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #34

Thinking that Hillary supporters are getting worried about Bernie. He is storming the castle! peacebird Jul 2015 #51

HRC should be worried wordpix Jul 2015 #98

Looks like an "equate Sanders with Trump" smear. arcane1 Jul 2015 #61

Same place Obama was in summer 2007, no? arcane1 Jul 2015 #64

BS doesn't have access to the Obama coalition. Big Diff! n/t Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #65

45+ million here on food stamps, but Bank$ters got the access, and $$$. Big Diff! jtuck004 Jul 2015 #99

Donald Duck pays "supporters" to show up and few do; Bernie gets 10,000 for one event wordpix Jul 2015 #95

Why would he pay for publicity? He's got Hartmann, Schultz & RT dispatching his every move. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #103

We've gotten so used to hearing lies, it's amazing some us still want to hear the valerief Jul 2015 #44

Surging because humbled_opinion Jul 2015 #46

�That is what this campaign is about: creating a political revolution in America.� abakan Jul 2015 #52

Damn right! And count me in!! arcane1 Jul 2015 #62

me, too, Bernie, put me on your volunteer list wordpix Jul 2015 #96

How will they counter his revolutionary tactic of letting people actually getting to know him? :) Babel_17 Jul 2015 #59

Like I have said before. WHEN CRABS ROAR Jul 2015 #63

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #75

Here's how they (and I do mean HRC corporatist shills) are portraying Bernie's crowd in Madison YOHABLO Jul 2015 #80

Note to HRC: We NEED an activist so for progressives, Bernie's the one wordpix Jul 2015 #97

Bernie!! AzDar Jul 2015 #87

Hey, Trump with your $50/paid supporter announcement wordpix Jul 2015 #89

Yeah, Trump. Go bankrupt quick! mwooldri Jul 2015 #100

Go Bernie Go !!! urbuddha Jul 2015 #101