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47. No, in this case Europe really is pulling terrorism on the Greeks. The banksters and corrupt

Sun Jul 5, 2015, 03:41 AM

Jul 2015

politicians got them into loans they can't pay. Now the World bank via the European Union is trying to force them to pay and by hitting the people directly. This is the country that a few years ago, the banks seized everyone in the countries bank accounts and tried to take the money from the people directly. I should note that it didn't work because of public out cry and the place was descending into a chaos that would have had the people overthrow the government. They got rid of their corrupt politicians fast - by vote. Smart people. Pay attention to Greece, what's happening there IS going to happen to other countries (the phillopeans at the moment is having the same issue.) But it will happen to more and it could happen to us eventually.

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Greek crisis: Yanis Varoufakis accuses Europe of terrorism - as it happened [View all] Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 OP

Yes, really starroute Jul 2015 #1

I loved it when Varafoukis compared it to fiscal azmom Jul 2015 #3

+1 trillion Jul 2015 #46

Go tell that to the Slovakians, Finns, Baltic States, etc. who are fed up to the teeth with Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #4

Then maybe those countries need to come out against austerity too....... socialist_n_TN Jul 2015 #11

Yep. The Troika is just setting them against each other. salib Jul 2015 #15

Yep, sounds like a great plan...how's that working out for Venezuela by the way snooper2 Jul 2015 #68

+1 Greece acted like it was on a gravy train cosmicone Jul 2015 #29

Bonjour mon ami ! Au moins, tu comprends, toi ! LOL! Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #40

Un grand bonjour a toi mon amie cosmicone Jul 2015 #62

According to responses to my posts, you're spouting RW talking points! 7962 Jul 2015 #66

Greece's ex-PM rebuts the above in 2012 Guardian article snagglepuss Jul 2015 #51

Thank you. 7962 Jul 2015 #52

Well, Varoufakis and millions of Greeks are probably terrified. malthaussen Jul 2015 #2

Indeed, but the OTT rhetoric coming out of the mouths of the so-called "leaders" Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #5

I'd assume he's playing to his constituency malthaussen Jul 2015 #6

And, seriously alienating the very finance ministers who will have to try to find a way out of this Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #8

Greece has been a hit job. We all know it. salib Jul 2015 #17

Yes, and they have played some very nasty games. All EU is being "bailed: right now (QE), not greece newthinking Jul 2015 #24

Just like the US is doing 7962 Jul 2015 #53

How is capitalism to blame for the Greek government spending so much cstanleytech Jul 2015 #25

ask Goldman. they engineered much if this fraud. elehhhhna Jul 2015 #27

This actually came about with super corrupt loans that the banksters with the politicians engineered trillion Jul 2015 #48

Ya but that can under any economic or political system that involves humans. cstanleytech Jul 2015 #64

No, in this case Europe really is pulling terrorism on the Greeks. The banksters and corrupt trillion Jul 2015 #47

Greece is a country, not a DeVry graduate Recursion Jul 2015 #49

Well, you need to be careful, there. malthaussen Jul 2015 #54

Greece joined the Euro-zone under false pretenses. Their real financial Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #7

Well, viewed from my eyes... malthaussen Jul 2015 #9

Really, really stuck between that proverbial rock and hard place. Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #10

Tactically, I wonder what would be most effective. malthaussen Jul 2015 #12

It the Trika had offered to restructure the debt to the point that Greece could see light salib Jul 2015 #21

Did the Greek people mask their insolvency? Or was that a privileged bunch JDPriestly Jul 2015 #38

Point taken..."Greece is not alone with regard to corruption in high places." Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #41

"...the lies and cheating" aren't to be found only in the upper echelons of government. Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #45

The Greek rebellion is similar to the South American rebellion against the IMF/World Bank. Peace Patriot Jul 2015 #13

Greece is, at least for a good share, responsible for the shit pile it finds itself in... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #14

"We've made sacrifices; they can, too." Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #16

But, no one has had the political will to address her underlying Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #19

The Greek Government was Hijacked by Corrupt Politicians and Bankers, Years Ago mckara Jul 2015 #18

I don't blame them 100% - 50%? Yes. Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #20

If You Believe in Neoclassical/Neoliberal Economic Models, mckara Jul 2015 #23

There structural problems. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #36

Watch Both Halves of this Show mckara Jul 2015 #63

Wow , you do not give up on the right-wing TP you are throwing around. salib Jul 2015 #22

So if the Greek loans were paid in full, then what? 7962 Jul 2015 #55

Stop blaming the victim. salib Jul 2015 #57

Fine. Call it "right wing" all you want. They drove the bus in the ditch 7962 Jul 2015 #59

I am calling it RW because it is RW. salib Jul 2015 #61

Well, you got your wish, they voted "no". So we'll see what happens next 7962 Jul 2015 #65

no response to post 61? snooper2 Jul 2015 #69

Thanks, I've been following and somewhat grasp what is happening. Iliyah Jul 2015 #26

If the NOs carry it, they may be 'temporarily' suspended from euro membership, Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #42

Be sure to watch this. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #37

Thanks for link... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #43

Surya Gayatri, I was surprised to read this piece yesterday: freshwest Jul 2015 #28

Actually, there is another side to the story, and let's remember that JDPriestly Jul 2015 #35

One objection; re: ISIS, 7962 Jul 2015 #56

You did well to highlight this, as it's at the core of the crisis Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #44

Here's hoping that they have a 'no' win blackspade Jul 2015 #30

The main concern is that if Greece Aerows Jul 2015 #31

you mean hill2016 Jul 2015 #33

That has already happened Aerows Jul 2015 #34

tiny correction... Ironing Man Jul 2015 #50

'Unlike Greece'...exactly. Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #60

Yes. Terrorism because the IMF and the Northern Europeans and oligarchs JDPriestly Jul 2015 #32

There are a whole lot of reasons why this never should have come to this Aerows Jul 2015 #39

I hope they vote NO. And do an 'Iceland' on the bankers and their 'investment loans'. Sunlei Jul 2015 #58

Did they accept the bailout in the referendum? This thread died. My question: freshwest Jul 2015 #67