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91. Then why carry a gun at all? I've never seen any study that shows serial robbers don't

Sun Jul 12, 2015, 11:22 PM

Jul 2015

kill. It's in their best interest not to commit a murder during a crime but it doesn't mean they'd avoid it all together. Hence the reason for carrying the gun.

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Surveillance video captures shootout involving CNN reporter [View all] bananas Jul 2015 OP

Surveillance video of shootout with former CNN reporter released; accomplice charged with murder get bananas Jul 2015 #1

I have to agree in this case, it's been big news here for over a week Warpy Jul 2015 #2

I just heard about it - I know she was a martial artist. bananas Jul 2015 #4

Skyy Barrs? NBachers Jul 2015 #3

July 1: Gunman Killed Trying to Rob Ex-Reporters Lynne Russell and Chuck de Caro in Albuquerque bananas Jul 2015 #5

Good riddance Devil Child Jul 2015 #6

she had the gun in her purse, but it was in the room passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #7

I am impressed at your gymnastic ability. Psephos Jul 2015 #13

Victim blaming? GGJohn Jul 2015 #43

I'm not blaming them at all. They did what they felt they needed to do to survive. passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #70

No one said that such a thing was proved friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #75

Your statement doesn't match with the account of Russell's that I saw Yo_Mama Jul 2015 #85

It always helps to get more info on a story passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #87

Agreed. Serial robbers do not kill their victims; these serial robbers would likely not have killed also Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #78

You are entirely free to believe that... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #88

Then why carry a gun at all? I've never seen any study that shows serial robbers don't mackerel Jul 2015 #91

You have made a good summary of the mindset that causes the gun problem in America. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #93

I take it you don't use seatbelts of have a fire extinguisher either Telcontar Jul 2015 #94

I bet you don't carry a defibrillator, much more likely to need that. Hoyt Jul 2015 #104

I don't need to, there's one in the hall next to my office Telcontar Jul 2015 #105

Good one. The astounding lack of logic by gun-lovers is also another thing they cling to. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #106

It goes to show the target of a robbery is "a womans purse" its kind-of dumb to store gun inside. Sunlei Jul 2015 #108

The video does not capture the shootout. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #8

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #10

Not blaming the victim. Just suggesting how folks can stay alive. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #17

And many of those that have just given up stuff GGJohn Jul 2015 #19

So you think cops are full of shit when they tell not to resist armed robberies? SunSeeker Jul 2015 #23

Considering the track records of cops? GGJohn Jul 2015 #24

So you think cops want robbery victims to get shot? SunSeeker Jul 2015 #31

No, I don't think that, and I'll thank you not to put words in my mouth. GGJohn Jul 2015 #33

The fatality rate for gun robberies is 0.4% (4 in 1,000) SunSeeker Jul 2015 #48

Yeah, that's comforting. GGJohn Jul 2015 #49

I don't "advocate for being a victim." I advocate for surviving. nt SunSeeker Jul 2015 #51

You're advocating for victims to just give up their possession and hope that the POS's won't GGJohn Jul 2015 #52

No, I'm advocating surviving an armed robbery. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #54

From what is being reported, robber opened fire first. LisaL Jul 2015 #61

You've ruined a perfectly good subthread with inconvenient truth... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #66

What is reported is the husband pulled a gun from the wife's purse and then a shootout. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #69

yep heaven05 Jul 2015 #62

How the fuck did your post get hidden? Telcontar Jul 2015 #95

FOX "News" is breathlessly hyping this as a "good guy with a gun" story. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #9

Well, isn't it? eom. GGJohn Jul 2015 #11

No. It's a shootout story that could have gone either way.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #12

Ok, I now get it. GGJohn Jul 2015 #14

No. I'm saying FOX "News" is claiming this ends the gun debate.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #15

I really don't give a good fuck what Faux Snooze says, GGJohn Jul 2015 #16

If you cared about robbery victims, you wouldn't be giving them bad advice. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #18

Robber dead. Victim alive. Evidence says the victim was indeed made safer. Psephos Jul 2015 #20

Really? Victim shot too. Guess his gun wasn't equiped with a force field. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #25

He's alive isn't he? GGJohn Jul 2015 #28

How is that "blaming the victim"? It was a robbery turned shootout.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #34

So you're willing to trust the tender mercies of these POS armed robbers? GGJohn Jul 2015 #38

That's why if you are ever in a group held hostage like at a bank you'll be the first they shoot.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #42

Yes. GGJohn Jul 2015 #45

Bear in mind this situation isn't about you either. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #55

Victim alive but in hospital with gun shot wounds. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #27

And chances are they would have been murdered. GGJohn Jul 2015 #30

Robbers generally want your stuff, not to kill you. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #35

So, your solution is to just give the armed robbers what they want without protest? GGJohn Jul 2015 #37

When seconds count, police are only minutes away. Psephos Jul 2015 #39

+1000. eom. GGJohn Jul 2015 #41

It is not neivete. It is statistics. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #50

Meanwhile, they're using emotion, not logic. Psephos Jul 2015 #53

I'm going by law enforcement advice and facts. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #58

Your stats are right. Igel Jul 2015 #63

Others are perfectly free to choose their own course of action in such cases friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #67

Of course he shot first passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #71

Statistically, a woman who resists rape is at more risk than one who doesn't. Psephos Jul 2015 #73

You cannot compare the physical attack on a woman passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #74

Sure you can Telcontar Jul 2015 #97

Have you ever studied Ghandi? passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #98

I have, his use of violence in pursuit of a political goal was nothing short of brilliant Telcontar Jul 2015 #99

you are just rootin for a fight aren't you? passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #100

Rooting for a fight? No Telcontar Jul 2015 #101

Sorry, not interested passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #102

Well, you did ask Telcontar Jul 2015 #103

I care more about the victims of this POS than you do as GGJohn Jul 2015 #21

That "blaming the victims" line is intentionally provocative. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #22

Well, that's exactly what you were doing. eom. GGJohn Jul 2015 #26

How? (This oughta be good) Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #29

... GGJohn Jul 2015 #32

How is THAT "provocative"? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #36

Easy. No need for the f bomb. DiverDave Jul 2015 #92

Don't wish to die? Don't rob people. Devil Child Jul 2015 #40

Neither do I, but it's not good policy to get in a shootout. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #44

Nor is it good policy to trust the tender mercies of someone pointing a gun at you. eom. GGJohn Jul 2015 #46

You seem practiced at this. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #56

I agree Devil Child Jul 2015 #47

I got one for ya, this crew might have worked for a gang and they may cut a deal to squeal. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #57

Threating somebody with a gun is the bigger problem Travis_0004 Jul 2015 #84

If you try to take from me, I don't care what it is, you will die Telcontar Jul 2015 #96

Good riddance. secondvariety Jul 2015 #59

This is why I won't stay at a hotel/motel Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #60

Nice thing about the internet is now... 47of74 Jul 2015 #89

Wish fulfillment for our resident Gun Enthusiasts: Paladin Jul 2015 #64

Kindly point out the posts where such a 'wish' was expressed friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #65

And no such posts were pointed out- so your claim is bullshit friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #76

Not very friendly comment attacking widely held beliefs, friendly_iconoclast.... Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #79

Beliefs are just that- not demonstrable truth friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #81

Like climate change, or the theories of relatively and evolution, or 320 million guns is too many, those kind? Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #82

Your first three examples are demonstrably fact, the last is merely your belief friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #83

This looks like a thread in Gungeon...the NRA Swastika needs to be defended! Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #80

Something nobody so far has mentioned: these reporters were ... brett_jv Jul 2015 #68

very good point passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #72

I'm sure that those you call "gun-lovers" will give your thoughts all due respect. friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #77

Extends training? Hell, in SC if your background check takes more than 72 hours, you get your gun! Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #86

Yeah, don't take the training from this guy; 47of74 Jul 2015 #90

wow, they have a reality story to tell the grandkids now! Sunlei Jul 2015 #107