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Sunlei

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107. wow, they have a reality story to tell the grandkids now!

Tue Jul 14, 2015, 10:48 AM

Jul 2015

all kinds of criminals hang around those type of hotels, parking lots looking for easy loot. Fast food
drive-thru also are an easy place to rob people.

They really need visible human security and people need to be aware of what is around them. Hand over your stuff and there is much less chance of being shot.

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Surveillance video captures shootout involving CNN reporter [View all] bananas Jul 2015 OP

Surveillance video of shootout with former CNN reporter released; accomplice charged with murder get bananas Jul 2015 #1

I have to agree in this case, it's been big news here for over a week Warpy Jul 2015 #2

I just heard about it - I know she was a martial artist. bananas Jul 2015 #4

Skyy Barrs? NBachers Jul 2015 #3

July 1: Gunman Killed Trying to Rob Ex-Reporters Lynne Russell and Chuck de Caro in Albuquerque bananas Jul 2015 #5

Good riddance Devil Child Jul 2015 #6

she had the gun in her purse, but it was in the room passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #7

I am impressed at your gymnastic ability. Psephos Jul 2015 #13

Victim blaming? GGJohn Jul 2015 #43

I'm not blaming them at all. They did what they felt they needed to do to survive. passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #70

No one said that such a thing was proved friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #75

Your statement doesn't match with the account of Russell's that I saw Yo_Mama Jul 2015 #85

It always helps to get more info on a story passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #87

Agreed. Serial robbers do not kill their victims; these serial robbers would likely not have killed also Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #78

You are entirely free to believe that... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #88

Then why carry a gun at all? I've never seen any study that shows serial robbers don't mackerel Jul 2015 #91

You have made a good summary of the mindset that causes the gun problem in America. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #93

I take it you don't use seatbelts of have a fire extinguisher either Telcontar Jul 2015 #94

I bet you don't carry a defibrillator, much more likely to need that. Hoyt Jul 2015 #104

I don't need to, there's one in the hall next to my office Telcontar Jul 2015 #105

Good one. The astounding lack of logic by gun-lovers is also another thing they cling to. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #106

It goes to show the target of a robbery is "a womans purse" its kind-of dumb to store gun inside. Sunlei Jul 2015 #108

The video does not capture the shootout. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #8

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #10

Not blaming the victim. Just suggesting how folks can stay alive. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #17

And many of those that have just given up stuff GGJohn Jul 2015 #19

So you think cops are full of shit when they tell not to resist armed robberies? SunSeeker Jul 2015 #23

Considering the track records of cops? GGJohn Jul 2015 #24

So you think cops want robbery victims to get shot? SunSeeker Jul 2015 #31

No, I don't think that, and I'll thank you not to put words in my mouth. GGJohn Jul 2015 #33

The fatality rate for gun robberies is 0.4% (4 in 1,000) SunSeeker Jul 2015 #48

Yeah, that's comforting. GGJohn Jul 2015 #49

I don't "advocate for being a victim." I advocate for surviving. nt SunSeeker Jul 2015 #51

You're advocating for victims to just give up their possession and hope that the POS's won't GGJohn Jul 2015 #52

No, I'm advocating surviving an armed robbery. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #54

From what is being reported, robber opened fire first. LisaL Jul 2015 #61

You've ruined a perfectly good subthread with inconvenient truth... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #66

What is reported is the husband pulled a gun from the wife's purse and then a shootout. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #69

yep heaven05 Jul 2015 #62

How the fuck did your post get hidden? Telcontar Jul 2015 #95

FOX "News" is breathlessly hyping this as a "good guy with a gun" story. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #9

Well, isn't it? eom. GGJohn Jul 2015 #11

No. It's a shootout story that could have gone either way.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #12

Ok, I now get it. GGJohn Jul 2015 #14

No. I'm saying FOX "News" is claiming this ends the gun debate.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #15

I really don't give a good fuck what Faux Snooze says, GGJohn Jul 2015 #16

If you cared about robbery victims, you wouldn't be giving them bad advice. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #18

Robber dead. Victim alive. Evidence says the victim was indeed made safer. Psephos Jul 2015 #20

Really? Victim shot too. Guess his gun wasn't equiped with a force field. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #25

He's alive isn't he? GGJohn Jul 2015 #28

How is that "blaming the victim"? It was a robbery turned shootout.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #34

So you're willing to trust the tender mercies of these POS armed robbers? GGJohn Jul 2015 #38

That's why if you are ever in a group held hostage like at a bank you'll be the first they shoot.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #42

Yes. GGJohn Jul 2015 #45

Bear in mind this situation isn't about you either. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #55

Victim alive but in hospital with gun shot wounds. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #27

And chances are they would have been murdered. GGJohn Jul 2015 #30

Robbers generally want your stuff, not to kill you. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #35

So, your solution is to just give the armed robbers what they want without protest? GGJohn Jul 2015 #37

When seconds count, police are only minutes away. Psephos Jul 2015 #39

+1000. eom. GGJohn Jul 2015 #41

It is not neivete. It is statistics. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #50

Meanwhile, they're using emotion, not logic. Psephos Jul 2015 #53

I'm going by law enforcement advice and facts. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #58

Your stats are right. Igel Jul 2015 #63

Others are perfectly free to choose their own course of action in such cases friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #67

Of course he shot first passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #71

Statistically, a woman who resists rape is at more risk than one who doesn't. Psephos Jul 2015 #73

You cannot compare the physical attack on a woman passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #74

Sure you can Telcontar Jul 2015 #97

Have you ever studied Ghandi? passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #98

I have, his use of violence in pursuit of a political goal was nothing short of brilliant Telcontar Jul 2015 #99

you are just rootin for a fight aren't you? passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #100

Rooting for a fight? No Telcontar Jul 2015 #101

Sorry, not interested passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #102

Well, you did ask Telcontar Jul 2015 #103

I care more about the victims of this POS than you do as GGJohn Jul 2015 #21

That "blaming the victims" line is intentionally provocative. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #22

Well, that's exactly what you were doing. eom. GGJohn Jul 2015 #26

How? (This oughta be good) Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #29

... GGJohn Jul 2015 #32

How is THAT "provocative"? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #36

Easy. No need for the f bomb. DiverDave Jul 2015 #92

Don't wish to die? Don't rob people. Devil Child Jul 2015 #40

Neither do I, but it's not good policy to get in a shootout. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #44

Nor is it good policy to trust the tender mercies of someone pointing a gun at you. eom. GGJohn Jul 2015 #46

You seem practiced at this. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #56

I agree Devil Child Jul 2015 #47

I got one for ya, this crew might have worked for a gang and they may cut a deal to squeal. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #57

Threating somebody with a gun is the bigger problem Travis_0004 Jul 2015 #84

If you try to take from me, I don't care what it is, you will die Telcontar Jul 2015 #96

Good riddance. secondvariety Jul 2015 #59

This is why I won't stay at a hotel/motel Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #60

Nice thing about the internet is now... 47of74 Jul 2015 #89

Wish fulfillment for our resident Gun Enthusiasts: Paladin Jul 2015 #64

Kindly point out the posts where such a 'wish' was expressed friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #65

And no such posts were pointed out- so your claim is bullshit friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #76

Not very friendly comment attacking widely held beliefs, friendly_iconoclast.... Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #79

Beliefs are just that- not demonstrable truth friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #81

Like climate change, or the theories of relatively and evolution, or 320 million guns is too many, those kind? Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #82

Your first three examples are demonstrably fact, the last is merely your belief friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #83

This looks like a thread in Gungeon...the NRA Swastika needs to be defended! Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #80

Something nobody so far has mentioned: these reporters were ... brett_jv Jul 2015 #68

very good point passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #72

I'm sure that those you call "gun-lovers" will give your thoughts all due respect. friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #77

Extends training? Hell, in SC if your background check takes more than 72 hours, you get your gun! Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #86

Yeah, don't take the training from this guy; 47of74 Jul 2015 #90

wow, they have a reality story to tell the grandkids now! Sunlei Jul 2015 #107