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66. if you say so

Sat Jul 18, 2015, 06:27 PM

Jul 2015

sometimes the sound of ones own voice can make a difference. All this gentle civil shit is not going to stop a Sandra Bland from dying from a forced hanging by racist pigs tomorrow, or stop a bullet to the back for an alleged traffic violation. The time for being nice and exhibiting patience has to come to an end. I want change and I want it now! I want the power of the militarized police forces reined in by certain and defined laws as to how they can treat ALL alleged traffic violators for one small change. A to hell with state laws. A federal law saying don't kill traffic violators would be a start by one of these potential POTUS. Nice, civil, patience is not working and is coming to an end. Only the privileged can demand that because they have been nice, patient and civil in allowing racist hate and murder to continue for 250 years.

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#Blacklivesmatter organizers disrupt O�Malley and Sanders to demand end to structural racism [View all] DonViejo Jul 2015 OP

It was just disgraceful. SoapBox Jul 2015 #1

I guess the concept of maintaining dignity is long gone from our society in general uhnope Jul 2015 #19

YOU WIN THE THREAD. The dignity of the people, not the pols and pundits. After 50 years... freshwest Jul 2015 #56

+10000000000000000! sheshe2 Jul 2015 #112

and some of you wonder why Clinton skips these dog and pony shows wyldwolf Jul 2015 #22

There's an answer for that... msrizzo Jul 2015 #54

No wonder. Fear. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #87

No, Hillary is a strong woman.. she's not in "fear" of anything. Cha Jul 2015 #141

Yes she is. Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #150

Thank you for your compassionate post, AL Cha Jul 2015 #153

+1 n/t Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #159

Obama is the president. Why aren't they demonstrating against him? JDPriestly Jul 2015 #98

You always ask the candidates about these issues! That's why we have political campaigns! Yo_Mama Jul 2015 #134

NormallBernie JDPriestly Jul 2015 #146

You're reacting as if this was a personal insult to the candidates, Yo_Mama Jul 2015 #151

I do think Sanders is strong on these issues. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #158

Obama wasn't there. The two progressives who want to succeed his presidency were there. CTyankee Jul 2015 #169

I agree with you very much about the importance of the issues the Black Lives Matter JDPriestly Jul 2015 #183

I don't know whether you have/are walking in their shoes. I know I'm not and have not. CTyankee Jul 2015 #185

Bernie Sanders has been a strong advocate for the rights of African-Americans for 50 years. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #187

can't you see how your advice could be interpreted as "let us white people tell you black CTyankee Jul 2015 #188

Hey! It's my opinion. They can take it or leave it. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #189

In the short run, it can be the way you see it. In the long run, however, it can shake CTyankee Jul 2015 #190

For years the Department of Justice has been investigating racism in local police departments... CBHagman Jul 2015 #200

I would not denounce the people who are working on police brutality issues as the cause of t JDPriestly Jul 2015 #201

So sad to see someone DU serve as an example of the backfire effect and moving the goalposts. CBHagman Jul 2015 #202

Fostering something is not causing it. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #203

but just earlier today Clinton was being hammered for not being there..... George II Jul 2015 #106

Demanding equal rights is not disgraceful. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #152

The method is as important as the message n/t TexasBushwhacker Jul 2015 #171

So you think that if someone doesn't say please and thank you may I be free, they don't deserve it. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #175

It's an issue of what is effective TexasBushwhacker Jul 2015 #179

The death toll in the streets show listening is not effective. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #180

excellent heaven05 Jul 2015 #2

when you have spent your entire life fighting racial injustice.... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #6

okay heaven05 Jul 2015 #7

I don't find it offensive, and I understand it. virtualobserver Jul 2015 #78

Trayvon Martin, Sandra Bland and all the deaths in between happened on Obama's watch. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #95

Yeah, it is all Obama's fault, that's good still_one Jul 2015 #128

It's Obama's fault. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #131

Yet a white Southerner, Lyndon Johnson, signed the Civil Rights Act. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #148

How is a black man going to end white racism? bravenak Jul 2015 #160

End white racism? That's something tha only white racists can do. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #161

That is a very interesting answer, thank you for responding. bravenak Jul 2015 #162

Yes. Think of Medgar Evers, and so, so, so many others. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #163

Yes. And we can work on ending the mass incarceration and police violence too. bravenak Jul 2015 #164

Yes. I was talking to a mother today whose children have been in court with JDPriestly Jul 2015 #165

O'Malley was a get-tough on crime mayor -- not someone who spent his pnwmom Jul 2015 #9

I was thinking more of Sanders.... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #10

Obama has been president for six years during which racism has exhibited itself in police JDPriestly Jul 2015 #102

BLM protested during Obama's speech at Selma this year. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #173

Utter frustration! JDPriestly Jul 2015 #181

+1 The Wizard Jul 2015 #46

Exactly. This isn't Code Pink deservedly slamming Condi. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2015 #48

+1000 MissDeeds Jul 2015 #74

So what is the answer to the question? How do you think they could possibly do what was asked? A Simple Game Jul 2015 #8

So it isn't possible heaven05 Jul 2015 #17

There is lots that can be done and you know it as well as I do. A Simple Game Jul 2015 #29

yeah heaven05 Jul 2015 #57

What has Obama, a Black man, done about this racism? JDPriestly Jul 2015 #122

Has nothing to do with Obamas strengths or weaknesses heaven05 Jul 2015 #132

What has Obama done to make sure that Black Lives Matter? JDPriestly Jul 2015 #147

At the very least, Obama could have seen that federal TexasBushwhacker Jul 2015 #170

My view precisely. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #182

the Justice hill2016 Jul 2015 #186

Thank you on the compliment, and you aren't so bad yourself. Very nice post. A Simple Game Jul 2015 #127

I want specifics as to what can be done to end "structural racism." WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2015 #50

I just want to see a plan heaven05 Jul 2015 #59

These questions need to be addressed to the sitting president first. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #113

So why not take this issue to Obama Travis_0004 Jul 2015 #129

I'm more than sure heaven05 Jul 2015 #140

apparenty Obama couldn't do anything to prevent all the racial incidents m-lekktor Jul 2015 #26

Complete dismantling is an impossible expectation. Much time will be needed and then A Simple Game Jul 2015 #30

It is troubling PDittie Jul 2015 #32

"Structural racism" isn't what's in people's hearts starroute Jul 2015 #68

And there you go. +1. nt nc4bo Jul 2015 #93

Sister Oso was respectful yet Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #24

Hillary has the ability to listen to the voices if she chooses. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #33

It wasn't confrontation Warpy Jul 2015 #34

It was just plain Narcississism. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #55

Yeah, that's my take on it Warpy Jul 2015 #58

So did the protestors have like a list of legislation or other ideas to present to the candidates? hollowdweller Jul 2015 #138

I don't think they had any proposals... HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #142

if you say so heaven05 Jul 2015 #66

Then do this at the racist cops, not at people who are running for office to make a difference Warpy Jul 2015 #70

like I'm saying and going to say over and over heaven05 Jul 2015 #72

+1. Want the vote? Address the issues, period. nc4bo Jul 2015 #81

ambush and push back romanic Jul 2015 #166

and I repeat heaven05 Jul 2015 #168

they took over, wasted a lot of time, demanded that O'Malley answer their question and then wouldn't magical thyme Jul 2015 #156

I am going to take the heaven05 Jul 2015 #172

what did they accomplish? did they get answers? no. Did they learn how O'Malley or Sanders plans to magical thyme Jul 2015 #178

oh yeah? heaven05 Jul 2015 #184

President Obama has been president now for about 6 years. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #90

A local issue? A local issue heaven05 Jul 2015 #126

I very much agree with your proposals for a campaign to reduce the racism JDPriestly Jul 2015 #149

YES! votesparks Jul 2015 #177

Bernie Sanders' response: Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #3

is there a video? Vattel Jul 2015 #4

There's a video at the web site but, not sure if it shows the "disruption"... DonViejo Jul 2015 #5

video here you go. Hard to watch. uhnope Jul 2015 #15

She is so riversedge Jul 2015 #49

Thank you for posting that. MH1 Jul 2015 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author uhnope Jul 2015 #12

I wonder how long it will take..... BooScout Jul 2015 #11

I don't blame anyone........ virtualobserver Jul 2015 #13

Yes, must be her fault. lol Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #16

I bet it's why she didn't attend..... BooScout Jul 2015 #18

You think? Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #21

Months ago she committed to the Jefferson Jackson Dinner in Arkansas being held tonight.... George II Jul 2015 #116

Shhhhhh George...... BooScout Jul 2015 #121

Sorry........ George II Jul 2015 #124

Now you're just being silly...... BooScout Jul 2015 #139

... George II Jul 2015 #143

... BooScout Jul 2015 #144

Too late it already has. :-) nt msrizzo Jul 2015 #27

Well ... it didn't take long ... Not long at all. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #53

I think it already has been discussed and she was 'found wanting.' freshwest Jul 2015 #69

Not her fault, she just benefits from it. jeff47 Jul 2015 #77

I wonder how many people who disapprove of this criticized Clinton for not attending NN15. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #14

We should take a poll on Facebook to find out! BooScout Jul 2015 #20

It was already mentioned in a thread somewhere earlier. She was dissed for it. n/t freshwest Jul 2015 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author 7962 Jul 2015 #23

As a Bernista, I found this video to be quite informative 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #25

+1000 It is civil disobedience, open protest - what do you want? Free speech zones? whereisjustice Jul 2015 #28

Narcissism uhnope Jul 2015 #61

Then black people are nothing but narcissists for speaking out nc4bo Jul 2015 #85

Won't be provoked by your race-bating uhnope Jul 2015 #89

Your attempt to shame me is no concern of mine. nt nc4bo Jul 2015 #92

I said "should" not "will". but keep alienating allies if that's yr thing uhnope Jul 2015 #94

Say what? nc4bo Jul 2015 #100

They had a private meeting with Sanders scheduled after the speech. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #103

Did some one interview the protesters? nc4bo Jul 2015 #107

When causing a disruption to get camera time... HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #145

Should we write off the entire gay rights movement as "narcisssists" who should be collectively Chakab Jul 2015 #97

DUers, what would your "plan" entail to dismantle structural racism? WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2015 #31

Bernie talked about that at length, but... Kalidurga Jul 2015 #36

I'm more in line with your thinking, but many are pushing "social injustice"... WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2015 #42

I want to hear from those folks EXACTLY WHAT they would do to end structural racism. Kalidurga Jul 2015 #45

My hunch is O'Malley and Sanders were not adequately briefed 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #60

I asked my 20YO grandson how he would end racism. djean111 Jul 2015 #38

That's pretty much how I see it. I'm wondering exactly what the protesters... WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2015 #43

Is Ms. Oso planning on disrupting the Republican candidates when they are in Phoenix? red dog 1 Jul 2015 #35

Better to make our candidates, any of whom would run DOJ's that will turn PD's upside-down BeyondGeography Jul 2015 #37

Netroots Nation is now dead to me. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #39

Very disappointing....it's ruined for me as well. haikugal Jul 2015 #83

The Hill has several video's --from the stage and the audience views.... riversedge Jul 2015 #40

Thanks for that link red dog 1 Jul 2015 #47

GOP paid agitators. The Wizard Jul 2015 #41

DUZY nomination! BooScout Jul 2015 #44

More like Hillary's. WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2015 #52

it doesn't take a conspiracy uhnope Jul 2015 #64

Too early to tell. But it was either deliberate or stupid to hurt your most sincere and empathetic GoneFishin Jul 2015 #65

I doubt it. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #73

Rove's fingerprints? rocktivity Jul 2015 #84

Counterproductive, IMO.... groundloop Jul 2015 #62

Funny, I remember people here cheering the LGBT rights protesters who disprupted speeches by the Chakab Jul 2015 #76

^^^^ + 1,0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 DonViejo Jul 2015 #99

I tried to bump the threads, but the system wouldn't let me. Chakab Jul 2015 #105

Perhaps they could do this at a GOP event instead. progressoid Jul 2015 #63

Sure they do but the message isn't being received by black voters. nc4bo Jul 2015 #86

"We're getting nowhere in Iraq, so let's invade Canada." GoneFishin Jul 2015 #67

This is a good article on what happened stuckinodi Jul 2015 #75

Good article, but I don't think Bernie blew it TexasBushwhacker Jul 2015 #174

Sometimes you have to put it out there. nc4bo Jul 2015 #79

Yep...... msrizzo Jul 2015 #82

You'd have a point if both O'Malley and Sanders had not already made it a part of their speeches. jeff47 Jul 2015 #88

More black people need fo hear the messages. nc4bo Jul 2015 #91

And shouting over the candidates fixes that how? jeff47 Jul 2015 #96

Squeaky wheels get the grease. nt nc4bo Jul 2015 #101

Or replaced. Nt HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #104

With what? Good luck winning any national election without the black vote. Chakab Jul 2015 #108

Good luck under the Republican who wins. jeff47 Jul 2015 #114

Wasn't the last Democrat who was in office one of the politicians most reponsible for pushing Chakab Jul 2015 #119

The fucking difference is both O'Malley and Sanders want to reverse that. jeff47 Jul 2015 #120

Message not being received by target audience. nc4bo Jul 2015 #123

Or the target audience will have to actually listen jeff47 Jul 2015 #125

If a politician can't handle this then perhaps becoming POTUS isn't nc4bo Jul 2015 #133

They handled it fine. jeff47 Jul 2015 #135

Try replacing a voting bloc. nc4bo Jul 2015 #109

Amazing that people on a Democratic message board will be so quick to tell the most loyal Chakab Jul 2015 #111

Why? When it's obvious that "wheel" is not going to ever be satisfied jeff47 Jul 2015 #110

Oh fucking shit. DU's really showing what a "tolerant" forum it is on this one. Chakab Jul 2015 #115

Revealing isn't it? nt nc4bo Jul 2015 #117

An intolerant form wouldn't have people talking to you. jeff47 Jul 2015 #118

With the GOPers and their gerrymandered districts set in stone at the moment.... wolfie001 Jul 2015 #80

Structural racism HassleCat Jul 2015 #130

I think the answer you have given is a very reasonable one which would work Yo_Mama Jul 2015 #136

She wanted to hear specific proposals, not the categories you have cited. Everybody wants them. CTyankee Jul 2015 #191

This is a tempest in a teacup imthevicar Jul 2015 #137

More shouting in the echo chamber architect359 Jul 2015 #154

Some folks would rather get attention and set their cause back... Henryville Jul 2015 #155

I look forward to Oso disrupting any upcoming GOP rallys next. romanic Jul 2015 #157

They just might but no one would be holding their breath......hoping nc4bo Jul 2015 #192

It's not about helping romanic Jul 2015 #195

Good cause. Wrong crowd. Vinca Jul 2015 #167

RIGHT crowd. nt nc4bo Jul 2015 #193

Is it a new tactic? Alienating your supporters? I don't get it. Vinca Jul 2015 #198

Isn't that disorganizing ? orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #176

Why do you say that? nc4bo Jul 2015 #194

Wow. A video version of a DU "white privilege" thread! Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #196

I have no problem with protests davidpdx Jul 2015 #197

I'm not sure is this the way to get your point across. alarimer Jul 2015 #199

The irony is that this probably benefits Clinton whose policy initiatives and past work... Chan790 Jul 2015 #204