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hack89

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27. Iceland borrowed billions from the IMF in addition to accepting IMF austerity measures.
Mon May 7, 2012, 01:56 PM
May 2012

The problem in Iceland was domestic banks

They solved their problem by:

1. Restructuring domestic banking
2. Accepting IMF help.
3. Applying for EU membership to improve their credibility with the international financial markets.

Do you want Greece to fix their problem like Iceland now?

Iceland's financial position has steadily improved since the crash. The economic contraction and rise in unemployment appear to have been arrested by late 2010 and with growth underway in mid 2011.[187] Three main factors have been important in this regard. First is the emergency legislation passed by the Icelandic parliament in October 2008. It served to minimise the impact of the financial crisis on the country. The Financial Supervisory Authority of Iceland used permission granted by the emergency legislation to take over the domestic operations of the three largest banks.[188] The much larger foreign operations of the banks, however, went into receivership.

A second important factor is the success of the IMF Stand-By-Arrangement in the country since November 2008. The SBA includes three pillars. The first pillar is a program of medium term fiscal consolidation, involving painful austerity measures and significant tax hikes. The result has been that central government debts have been stabilised at around 80–90 percent of GDP. A second pillar is the resurrection of a viable but sharply downsized domestic banking system on the ruins of its gargantuan international banking system which the government was unable to bail out. A third pillar is the enactment of capital controls and the work to gradually lift these to restore normal financial linkages with the outside world. An important result of the emergency legislation and the SBA is that the country has not been seriously affected by the European sovereign debt crisis from 2010. Despite a contentious debate with Britain and the Netherlands over the question of a state guarantee on the Icesave deposits of Landsbanki in these countries, credit default swaps on Icelandic sovereign debt have steadily declined from over 1000 points prior to the crash in 2008 to around 200 points in June 2011. The fact that the assets of the failed Landsbanki branches are now estimated to cover most of the depositor claims has had an influence to ease concerns over the situation.

Finally, the third major factor behind the resolution of the financial crisis was the decision by the government of Iceland to apply for membership in the EU in July 2009. While views on the feasibility of EU membership are quite mixed in Iceland, this action has served to enhance the credibility of the country on international financial markets. One sign of the success of the above efforts is the fact that the Icelandic government was successfully able to raise $1 billion with a bond issue on 9 June 2011. This development indicates that international investors have given the government and the new banking system, with two of the three biggest banks now in foreign hands, a clean bill of health.[189][190] The first two major measures were implemented by the government of Geir H. Haarde but carried out by also the government of Johanna Sigurdardottir, which then took the step to apply for EU membership.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%932012_Icelandic_financial_crisis#Development

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And that is worth a bucket of warm spit, at this point. bemildred May 2012 #1
The Greeks are screwed no matter what. hack89 May 2012 #2
No point is stringing it out. bemildred May 2012 #5
But the alternatives may be just as bad or even worse hack89 May 2012 #6
Who can say? bemildred May 2012 #7
I can understand that position hack89 May 2012 #9
Other than the claims of the banks, how would you know? bemildred May 2012 #10
We may never know except in hindsight hack89 May 2012 #11
What about changing the repayment date the loans? cstanleytech May 2012 #18
Sound fine to me. hack89 May 2012 #19
Look, these "financial wizards" have got most of what they wanted for 30+ years now bemildred May 2012 #12
But you have nothing to loose if the Greek choose wrong. hack89 May 2012 #14
And you do? bemildred May 2012 #15
I have no strong feelings one way or the other hack89 May 2012 #16
Tsk, that sounds so "emotional". nt bemildred May 2012 #17
For suggesting that the Greeks also share the blame for the mess they are in? OK. nt hack89 May 2012 #21
For thinking that "who to blame" is the proper question to concern oneself with. bemildred May 2012 #22
OK. Thanks for the interesting discussion. nt hack89 May 2012 #23
Likewise. bemildred May 2012 #25
No, your correct, no one put a gun to their head. fasttense May 2012 #32
There has been plenty of rational analysis. But the stooges of the Global Banks sabrina 1 May 2012 #26
Iceland borrowed billions from the IMF in addition to accepting IMF austerity measures. hack89 May 2012 #27
Iceland did what all those countries should have done. sabrina 1 May 2012 #29
apples and ...gyroscopes dmallind May 2012 #28
Got anything to back up your opinion? Most credible financial analysts do not agree with you. sabrina 1 May 2012 #30
Maybe the Greeks can Berlin Expat May 2012 #31
Sound like threats to me. fasttense May 2012 #3
As soon as they started paying their bills HotRodTuna May 2012 #4
The EU is the German Empire without the Kaiser. Odin2005 May 2012 #8
Frau Merkel is not the Empress? Jack Rabbit May 2012 #13
How are the germans in the wrong here? 4th law of robotics May 2012 #34
Revolt against the pirate looting of the banks! librechik May 2012 #20
If my deadbeat brother-in-law, who already owes me thousands, wants to keep borrowing more money Nye Bevan May 2012 #24
No. Which is why Greece should leave EU and build new financial bridges. David__77 May 2012 #33
Why do you think that "help" won't come with equally onerous strings attached? hack89 May 2012 #35
How about Greece leaves the Euro rather then the EU? T_i_B May 2012 #36
They are still broke regardless of what currency they are broke in. nt hack89 May 2012 #37
But at least they would have control over their own currency T_i_B May 2012 #38
Judging from the massive currency outflows from Greek banks hack89 May 2012 #40
But then you could also ask... T_i_B May 2012 #41
I don't know if the illusion of control really means much at the moment. hack89 May 2012 #42
The obvious reply to that.... T_i_B May 2012 #43
Pain either way, feel bad for the good folks of Greece sti08dem May 2012 #39
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