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JonLP24

(29,988 posts)
27. I'll also add the arrogance into thinking
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 07:32 AM
Jul 2015

the stranglehold will be 'crimped' so easily.

This is one of the greatest OPs I ever read here.

Hey, guys. Commiserations. I have some observations for you from Scotland...

I wonder if you will find this interesting.

The Scottish National Party(SNP) in Scotland is poised to wipe out Labour (the major UK left party)at the next general election. Why?

Because the SNP is further left than the Labour party now.

Also, the behaviour of some of the Labour activists during the independence referendum campaign was so foul that a vast number of diehard Labour supporters switched over to the SNP in disgust. The SNP's party membership is now 80,000 and rising (I realise that's small beans compared to the US, but for our country it's big, it's now larger than the other UK "third party", the Liberals, it's now the third largest party in the UK). The SNP has been in power for 7 years and proved that its primary interest is Scotland and its people. The Labour party's primary interest is the Labour party. Alex Salmond, First Minister and SNP leader (soon to step down) was basically the only major political leader in the UK that condemned the Iraq War from the start. He started winning and kept winning because he told the truth.

After Thatcher the right wing Tories were utterly obliterated from Scottish politics. Currently they hold one seat in Scotland. It's beginning to look like Labour is about to go the same way. Current projections suggest that they may end up with as few as four seats.

There is this thing that happens in Scotland when a political party does something we don't like.

We DESTROY THEM.

Why should we live under the rule of a body that does not represent us?

One of the results of this long term trend is that we now have our own Parliament. Labour gave it to us so as to buy our votes. Other developments that indicate our highly non-tactical and highly successful voting strategy include the recent referendum - Holyrood (Scottish Parliament) was set up as STV (single transferable vote) so that the SNP couldn't ever get in with an overall majority and take Scotland out of the UK. This has failed totally, the SNP gained an overall majority at Holyrood and is going to expand that majority at the next GE.

Scotland has free university education. Scotland has a properly NON-privatised Health Service. The SNP is protecting this. Labour, across the UK, is trying to fuck it all over. They are hypnotised by the right and are desperately copying them as much as possible. It's going to be a disaster for them. They've abandoned the working man, and the working man can see this perfectly well for himself.

Perpetual triangulation has cost Labour it's ace - Scotland. Labour used to be able to rely on at least 45 MPs from Scotland every general election and could concentrate their strategy on England. Taking Scotland for granted has destroyed them.

Labour's self-absorption and corruption were as plain as day. Everyone could see for themselves that these people were career politicians and wanted nothing to do with them. The new guy who is about to take over as the Scottish Labour leader (you can tell that it's going to be him because despite the fact that there are two other candidates for the leadership thy are getting absolutely no coverage at all in stark contrast to articles all over the "lefty" press about the Golden Child) is called Jim Murphy and he is already regarded as a buffoon by the Scottish electorate as he ran up an expenses bill of £1mil over junk and spent 9 years at uni without ever getting a degree.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025764711 -- there is more that should be definitely be read plus sibelian bolds and italics in all the right places.

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Still barking loudly for your masters, eh, Tony? deutsey Jul 2015 #1
Well, after Blair had worked so hard to pull Labour right-ward Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2015 #2
Trouble is... T_i_B Jul 2015 #3
Oh, I completely agree with you Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2015 #8
Mr Blair, New Labour and your invasion of Iraq Astraea Jul 2015 #4
Who even listens to this asshole? blackspade Jul 2015 #5
Most of Parlimentary Labour still hang on his every word T_i_B Jul 2015 #10
Yuck. blackspade Jul 2015 #12
Blair's internal party reforms have also played their part T_i_B Jul 2015 #18
That sounds strangely familiar. blackspade Jul 2015 #19
Al Jazeera bombing memo JonLP24 Jul 2015 #26
Does this ass carrot not realize that he destroyed what was left of Labour? Cameron Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2015 #6
Is this the same Tony IRAQ Blair from the UK? asiliveandbreathe Jul 2015 #7
Bliar has zero credibility. roamer65 Jul 2015 #9
What the Labour party could look like under Jeremy Corbyn Ichingcarpenter Jul 2015 #11
Well, welcome to the 1970's ! Angel Martin Jul 2015 #16
The Seventies were a lot better than now - and we didn't have most of these things then!) LeftishBrit Aug 2015 #29
his "success" was mostly riding Tory Sleaze and some economic bumps--an economy that MisterP Jul 2015 #13
Margaret Beckett: I was moron to nominate Jeremy Corbyn Bosonic Jul 2015 #14
results dear boy, results... Ironing Man Jul 2015 #15
Trouble is.... T_i_B Jul 2015 #20
"tea with the IRA" led to peace in Northern Ireland. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #23
The tone of the anti-Corbyn people in Labour.... T_i_B Jul 2015 #24
I'll also add the arrogance into thinking JonLP24 Jul 2015 #27
Note that one of the few good things that Blair did... LeftishBrit Aug 2015 #30
L.....O......L.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! senseandsensibility Jul 2015 #17
The last thing Labour needs is a leader like Jeremy Corbyn who people want to vote for T_i_B Jul 2015 #21
I'm thinking Blair's going to start the next SDP, I think-Liz Kendall will join him. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #22
What I've heard is very different T_i_B Jul 2015 #25
Tony Blair: Even if you hate me, please don’t take Labour over the cliff edge T_i_B Aug 2015 #28
Companies clamour to get Tony Blair to badmouth their products T_i_B Aug 2015 #31
Remember WHY Blair won? brooklynite Aug 2015 #32
I also remember.... T_i_B Aug 2015 #33
What's with all these 'traditional leftists' anyway? PatrickforO Aug 2015 #34
Rupert Murdoch give his tuppenceworth T_i_B Aug 2015 #35
This should be a test for the Bernie campaign. Could it happen? Darb Aug 2015 #36
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