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Major Nikon

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119. You still know how much vitamin c is in an orange

Fri Jul 24, 2015, 11:17 AM

Jul 2015

Regardless of whether it's GMO or not. Proponents of GMO labeling don't want to know what is in the orange, they want to know how it's produced, which is unprecedented. When a product contains sugar, it's labeled as sugar. You don't know if the sugar was produced from sugar beets or sugar cane, nor do you need to know because chemically it's still sugar. Decades ago the sugar cane industry tried to force the sugar beet industry to relabel their products differently. They lost that fight for the same reasons. It was nothing more than one industry trying to use regulation to increase their market share by taking advantage of public ignorance for financial gain.

If gmo wasn't safe, then it shouldn't be in the food supply. Forcing distributors to label something that provides no useful safety information to consumers is ridiculous. It's simply one industry trying to use the power of government regulation to stoke irrational fear in order to increase their market share. That's the actual issue.

http://factsaboutgmos.org/sites/default/files/AMA%20Report.pdf

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U.S. House passes anti-GMO labeling Law [View all] cal04 Jul 2015 OP

Now it's up to the Senate Democrats to stop this. Some of us would rather pnwmom Jul 2015 #1

what we really need is pesticide labelling paulkienitz Jul 2015 #13

Pesticides are used on non-GMO produce too. I don't want it, or herbicide, period in my food. freshwest Jul 2015 #86

As you read downward, keep alert for the odor of PAID advocates (chiming in w/ the company line) mpcamb Jul 2015 #87

It's not really a good proxy. jeff47 Jul 2015 #96

90-100% of the GMOs in my local store are GMO'd for the purpose of pesticiding paulkienitz Jul 2015 #145

Probably not, actually. jeff47 Jul 2015 #148

I suspect Obama will pass the bill unless evidence emerges that shows that cstanleytech Jul 2015 #2

It is all conjection and theoretical tymorial Jul 2015 #7

Those 45 Democrats need to be voted out. WDIM Jul 2015 #3

No they don't. tymorial Jul 2015 #10

Looks like you're on the wrong site.... truebrit71 Jul 2015 #17

Except if people want avoid GMOs they can just buy organic labeled items which cstanleytech Jul 2015 #19

You are wrong FlatBaroque Jul 2015 #45

The USDA says you're wrong Major Nikon Jul 2015 #59

More and more people are demanding organic.... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #79

And organic's much higher profit margin probably has nothing to do with demand jeff47 Jul 2015 #97

So can you refute Major Nikon or not? cstanleytech Jul 2015 #61

Here's the really fun part Major Nikon Jul 2015 #82

Because all democrats must be anti-gmo? tymorial Jul 2015 #21

No I would like to have an option if I to eat GMO. So I'm pro labeling. nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #25

You already have an option Major Nikon Jul 2015 #85

GMOs are pseudoscience. WDIM Jul 2015 #43

How exactly are GMOs bad science and bad for our planet? tymorial Jul 2015 #47

I can't believe I need to carla Jul 2015 #55

New GMO Rice fights global warming. jeff47 Jul 2015 #94

Actually it is clear why Seralini decided to not use "normal" rats Major Nikon Jul 2015 #109

Monsanto is the worlds largest producer of GMOs WDIM Jul 2015 #56

Faith-Based GMO Corporate Propaganda is the real pseudoscience BurfBrainiac Jul 2015 #80

This is so LOL. tymorial Jul 2015 #116

This is so evasive. BurfBrainiac Jul 2015 #117

Oh yes, Science is evasive. tymorial Jul 2015 #118

. NRaleighLiberal Jul 2015 #4

Well, that settles it then... KansDem Jul 2015 #5

Sounds like the right approach. (nt) enough Jul 2015 #6

And right there is the main reason NOT to support this mandatory ;abeling law. Archae Jul 2015 #8

Exactly greymattermom Jul 2015 #9

Or as I posted above you can buy items listed as organic because last time cstanleytech Jul 2015 #22

There are plenty of farmers BronxBoy Jul 2015 #42

Hysteria of the paranoids finally put in perspective cosmicone Jul 2015 #11

Farmers would have cross-bred crops with Round-up? Wow. djean111 Jul 2015 #20

Actually that could happen if say they discovered a strain of corn that naturally produced it cstanleytech Jul 2015 #24

Plants would start naturally producing Round-Up. Uh, huh. djean111 Jul 2015 #31

Considering the number of plants that already are toxic that we eat or use in the food that we cook cstanleytech Jul 2015 #63

Cross-bred with roundup Major Nikon Jul 2015 #88

I do understand that the plants are "round-up ready" - real resistant to Round-up. djean111 Jul 2015 #89

Cross-pollination isn't inserting genes? Major Nikon Jul 2015 #105

You should really give up on that rofl thingy - it is now just formulaic and actually, I think, djean111 Jul 2015 #107

"I was poking fun at the idea that cross-pollination and inserting genes are the same thing" Major Nikon Jul 2015 #110

How dare you make sense tymorial Jul 2015 #23

No, It's not "just like what farmers did for millennia" mountain grammy Jul 2015 #26

Hysteria? Paranoids? Did for centuries? Industrial farms our only hope? DirtyHippyBastard Jul 2015 #35

You obviously know nothing about how GMOs are made. WDIM Jul 2015 #40

I do gene splicings and gene insertions for a living cosmicone Jul 2015 #46

But obviously you know jack shit about plant breeding BronxBoy Jul 2015 #48

I'm glad you're the king of Jack Shits. n/t cosmicone Jul 2015 #76

Thank you BronxBoy Jul 2015 #78

For who? ADM or Monsanto? tex-wyo-dem Jul 2015 #65

I actually create novel organisms to treat human diseases cosmicone Jul 2015 #75

Wow.... BronxBoy Jul 2015 #44

Factually wrong BurfBrainiac Jul 2015 #54

I'll be calling the house, senate and whitehouse to oppose this putrid bill. Join me... Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #12

Dear Food Companies C_U_L8R Jul 2015 #14

just waiting for the human species to extinct themselves Angry Dragon Jul 2015 #15

Does Blue Dog mean Republican lite? jalan48 Jul 2015 #16

I can tell that you are being sarcastic but I can't figure out the direction tymorial Jul 2015 #27

If they vote with the Republicans that should give us an idea. jalan48 Jul 2015 #28

Ahh identity politics tymorial Jul 2015 #34

So if GMO's are good why the opposition to labeling? jalan48 Jul 2015 #36

There are costs involved cpwm17 Jul 2015 #50

Looks like most of the Democrats might believe in pseudo science then. jalan48 Jul 2015 #67

This thread is about the safety of GMO's for human consumption. cpwm17 Jul 2015 #73

Sorry, I was just pointing out that we have been lied to before by big Ag. jalan48 Jul 2015 #74

If GMOs are bad, why aren't manufacturers voluntarily adding "GMO Free" labels? (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #112

Maybe too many GMOs. jalan48 Jul 2015 #113

If that were true, then the "it might be dangerous!" argument isn't. jeff47 Jul 2015 #114

Might not be instantaneous. How about we inform the consumers and let them decide? jalan48 Jul 2015 #115

Yep shenmue Jul 2015 #101

It's funny dkhbrit Jul 2015 #18

then it'd be so stupendously marvelous they'd be bragging about it on the packaging MisterP Jul 2015 #29

Not dead but Pseudoscience is the virus that has infected it. tymorial Jul 2015 #32

When you have "Dr." Oz and quack "Hyman" preaching cosmicone Jul 2015 #39

We have a major problem with RoundUp Resistant weeds in Southern Georgia... BronxBoy Jul 2015 #49

So does that mean Roundup is now a good thing? Major Nikon Jul 2015 #123

Ummmm... BronxBoy Jul 2015 #128

So why are you ranting out Roundup becoming less effective for certain weeds? Major Nikon Jul 2015 #130

What are you talking about.... BronxBoy Jul 2015 #131

You stole my line! Major Nikon Jul 2015 #133

RoundUp is an herbicide BronxBoy Jul 2015 #134

So does that mean Roundup is now a good thing? Major Nikon Jul 2015 #136

Sorry... BronxBoy Jul 2015 #138

I'm not trying to make a point, I'm asking relevant questions about your point Major Nikon Jul 2015 #139

First of all...no where in my posts did I say Roundup was a bad thing BronxBoy Jul 2015 #141

True. You actually said it wasn't a good thing, so if we are playing silly semantic games you win Major Nikon Jul 2015 #142

Well... BronxBoy Jul 2015 #143

That is why 60 countries have banned or restricted GMOs WDIM Jul 2015 #51

My congresswoman at least voted the right way here. I'm still upset with her TPA vote though! cascadiance Jul 2015 #30

Cosmicone - Spot On! Gamecock Lefty Jul 2015 #33

Monsanto sure pays well G_j Jul 2015 #37

Legislation that complements the Monsanto Protection Act? d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #38

here's the masterlist for dirty-cop scientists MisterP Jul 2015 #41

Fucking Idiots! Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #52

Good. This anti-GMO pseudoscience has a body count in the developing world. Nailzberg Jul 2015 #53

Misdirection is wrong. Evil many would say. BurfBrainiac Jul 2015 #57

Just wait to see the body count GMOs and their pesticides leave behind. WDIM Jul 2015 #58

30 years so far. Where do you think they are hiding the bodies? Major Nikon Jul 2015 #60

They arent hiding the bodies look at the cancer rates increasing. WDIM Jul 2015 #62

The reduction in the pirate population is also a causal factor in global warming Major Nikon Jul 2015 #64

Go ahead and be an apologist for the multinational corporations WDIM Jul 2015 #68

If you are going for the non sequitur award you already have my vote Major Nikon Jul 2015 #70

Organics are multinational corportions, too. Nailzberg Jul 2015 #146

Where the bodies? Try the Parkinsons & Alzhiemers DEGENERATIVE wards BurfBrainiac Jul 2015 #103

... Major Nikon Jul 2015 #106

Citation? Nailzberg Jul 2015 #147

Good call by those 45 Dems Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2015 #66

Science has failed our mother earth. nt WDIM Jul 2015 #69

Ok. Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2015 #71

Interesting...the term "pseudo-science"... tex-wyo-dem Jul 2015 #72

Pssst....There's lots of money to be made selling you much higher priced organic food too. jeff47 Jul 2015 #95

It's kinda funny that people are oblivious to this Major Nikon Jul 2015 #111

Their cabal isn't very good at subtlety, are they, lol. closeupready Jul 2015 #98

Bingo. Here's the evidence of folks PARROTING paid talking points BurfBrainiac Jul 2015 #104

it's actually an argument quite tailor-made for Dems nowadays MisterP Jul 2015 #126

The best government money can buy. forest444 Jul 2015 #77

What a foul, foul Congress. nt valerief Jul 2015 #81

Why didn't Marcy Kaptur even vote? n/t OhioChick Jul 2015 #83

Genetic Roulette, The Gamble of Our Lives Skwmom Jul 2015 #84

Michael Taylor's Monsanto juggling act DirtyHippyBastard Jul 2015 #90

this is doa restorefreedom Jul 2015 #91

Fuck you very much, Keith Rothfus... MrMickeysMom Jul 2015 #92

93% of United States Citizen's want labeling... MrMickeysMom Jul 2015 #93

On the local news tonight at 10 DirtyHippyBastard Jul 2015 #99

I don't know if such a law is legal cpwm17 Jul 2015 #100

doubt it would hold up in court restorefreedom Jul 2015 #108

You still know how much vitamin c is in an orange Major Nikon Jul 2015 #119

lots of things end up in food and meds that are not safe. tons. you can google it restorefreedom Jul 2015 #121

So what exactly is winding up in food that wasn't already there? Major Nikon Jul 2015 #122

ok, one thing. pesticide residue, even on organic produce restorefreedom Jul 2015 #124

Pesticide residue on organic produce is caused by GMO? Major Nikon Jul 2015 #125

i didn't say it was from gmo restorefreedom Jul 2015 #127

Here's what you did say Major Nikon Jul 2015 #129

then how do you explain the glyphosate residue restorefreedom Jul 2015 #132

Your link explains it Major Nikon Jul 2015 #135

gmo still have higher residue amount restorefreedom Jul 2015 #137

I'm pretty sure if you tested for cow shit residues, it would be higher for organic produce Major Nikon Jul 2015 #140

i wouldn't have a problem with it restorefreedom Jul 2015 #144

throwing things against the wall artislife Jul 2015 #102

But I thought Republicans were for state rights. EndElectoral Jul 2015 #120