Latest Breaking News

shraby

(21,946 posts)

38. That's what's needed. An outside investigation with no one from Texas

Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:22 AM

Jul 2015

involved in the investigation.
All the "answers" from the investigation so far raised more questions than they answered.

I'd like to know how she could have "hung" herself. She would have needed a way to get her feet/body clear of the floor. How did she accomplish that?

The amount of mj in her system needs an explanation as she was in there for more than a day.

Were there ligation marks on her neck? Spots on her eyes from strangulation or lack of oxygen? Nothing was mention of any marks or spots.

These questions are just off the top of my head, I'm sure I could think of more with a report in front of me.

Just thought of other questions.
What were the contents of her stomach? That's part of an autopsy.
What was under her fingernails? That's part of an autopsy.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

139 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Experts: Report shows Sandra Bland may have used pot in jail [View all] laserhaas Jul 2015 OP

Actually, Fox is not a news source. shraby Jul 2015 #1

It came from AP - but Fox doesn't (properly) link to the AP story laserhaas Jul 2015 #3

exactly! n/t wildbilln864 Jul 2015 #5

I'd be interested to see if it's JackInGreen Jul 2015 #8

JackInGreen - Please explain, in further detail - to us non-tokers laserhaas Jul 2015 #14

When it's fight or flight SCVDem Jul 2015 #48

That's my opinion - also. As remarked in my comments below and elsewhere laserhaas Jul 2015 #50

MOI wants to know if they did DNA swabs of the purported hang noose laserhaas Jul 2015 #113

Its an Associated Press press story unless fox has taken to to posting cstanleytech Jul 2015 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #2

Stop hating the source - and LOOK at the dam fact I posted from within the story laserhaas Jul 2015 #7

The source is a cesspool of propaganda...why should we have to sort through such a source? Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #9

Fred - THE source is actually AP - Fox is just the ONLY link I can find to the AP story laserhaas Jul 2015 #32

Not to take away from your point JackInGreen Jul 2015 #10

Definition of Poison is The Most Apropos - it totally explains how Sandy was murdered laserhaas Jul 2015 #16

But it didn't.... JackInGreen Jul 2015 #17

NOT poisoned To DEATH - Just enough toxic poisoning to make one IMPAIRED laserhaas Jul 2015 #19

Legally it is poisoning. JimDandy Jul 2015 #64

Many of us often misconstrue terms and/or coin of phrases. laserhaas Jul 2015 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #34

So why derail this thread with an argument over source? Maedhros Jul 2015 #83

Orginally the source came from Fixed News d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #90

NO need to do so - laserhaas Jul 2015 #93

Already did. No worries d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #121

Colorado and Washington state have a ridiculously low Eric J in MN Jul 2015 #4

Something is really rotten about this. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #6

That's the whole point. Facts and outcome - DON"T ADD UP - U N L E S S... Sandy was laserhaas Jul 2015 #11

I see your point, but have to pose this question: Maedhros Jul 2015 #84

If it worked - than the "ineffective" argue is moot. laserhaas Jul 2015 #94

I could see it. [n/t] Maedhros Jul 2015 #106

This marijuana 'issue' is a red herring.... blackspade Jul 2015 #13

you nailed it! thanks. n/t wildbilln864 Jul 2015 #76

I would argue to the contrary. Weed didn't kill her; but it made her easier to suicide. laserhaas Jul 2015 #95

No, the pot issue is being used to demonize her. blackspade Jul 2015 #99

Yes... that was Fox News intention; but it is back firing. laserhaas Jul 2015 #102

How did they force that much pot into her? arcane1 Jul 2015 #107

I think her blood test was normal result for average 'user'? the test is to sensitive so authorities Sunlei Jul 2015 #111

Yeah... like weed makes you worse than on LSD - laserhaas Jul 2015 #116

fox is just an arm of the republican party and Rs dislike about 50% plus of Americans Sunlei Jul 2015 #119

everybody knows.... Cryptoad Jul 2015 #15

The dashcam-vid was edited and this is the toxicology report of the "defective" autopsy. Go figure. DetlefK Jul 2015 #18

Of that remark - pathological tyrants losing track of what is real laserhaas Jul 2015 #22

maybe they gave her some evidence eatables they seized from one of their car traffic stop searches?? Sunlei Jul 2015 #20

That's the type of facts we need to know 'Sunlei' - Can you put up a GD thread of more details. laserhaas Jul 2015 #24

no I can't my only trip to Colorado, I ate the evidence. sorry. Sunlei Jul 2015 #27

HA HA ---- okay laserhaas Jul 2015 #29

I don't 'use' either. I did want to try legal Co. pot.I can report that 2 treats made me so relaxed, Sunlei Jul 2015 #55

Thom Hartmann mentioned the other day that she refused breakfast the morning of her death. nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #21

one doesn't eat and THC stored in body fat is released into blood & stupid pot test picks up. Sunlei Jul 2015 #25

Why did she refuse breakfast? == Who disclosed such a (purported) fact? laserhaas Jul 2015 #28

I don't recall who he his source was, he was wondering if her meal the night before Snotcicles Jul 2015 #35

Again - that's a REAL possibility.... If she new they were tampering with her food laserhaas Jul 2015 #37

or perhaps after 3 full days in jail she was demoralized enough, exausted enough, to want to die. Sunlei Jul 2015 #23

I've been researching for a thread on that premise - laserhaas Jul 2015 #26

Thats possible but there are possibilities as well and to be fair cstanleytech Jul 2015 #31

That's the basis of my upcoming GD thread - what happened, possibilities laserhaas Jul 2015 #36

I recommend reading the posts by Lee-Lee over here cstanleytech Jul 2015 #39

Not a "lawful order". anyone with eyes and ears and a mild familiarity with the law that saw the video know that...why do you not? Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author cstanleytech Jul 2015 #43

The purported leap of logic fails Fred. No one is "championing" the RW... In fact I'm doing the laserhaas Jul 2015 #44

I'm not championing any talking points, what I am doing is what I am allowed which is to have cstanleytech Jul 2015 #45

You prefer making excuses for the cop, I prefer justice for Sarah Bland, we all see the difference. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #47

"I prefer justice for Sarah Bland" No, I dont think you do. cstanleytech Jul 2015 #54

Fred and cstanley - Can't we just get along? No need to get up at each other - We are against THEM laserhaas Jul 2015 #56

Fair enough. cstanleytech Jul 2015 #59

Never said it was "written" by Fox laserhaas Jul 2015 #61

I'm amazed that one would think there'd be a need for further review - on the firing issue. laserhaas Jul 2015 #42

the order to put out the cigarette KT2000 Jul 2015 #80

Concur KT2000 - their job is to keep the peace (mitigate) laserhaas Jul 2015 #89

Well Lee explained that the courts allow officers alot of leeway when it comes a stop like this and cstanleytech Jul 2015 #109

That's not the only thing he did. msrizzo Jul 2015 #127

True enough but that is what got the ball rolling with her refusing to comply with cstanleytech Jul 2015 #129

the reason he should be fired KT2000 Jul 2015 #133

Correct. If it was Palin's daughter - they'd want him strung up. laserhaas Jul 2015 #134

I am not sure about 100% anymore either now that I have seen the tape a few more times. cstanleytech Jul 2015 #136

it was before he told her KT2000 Jul 2015 #137

Well I am not disagreeing with you because yes he probably could have cstanleytech Jul 2015 #138

new job was toast. She had a serious Felony charge. First thing in jail is strip Naked for ? to see Sunlei Jul 2015 #103

That's one thing that is most disturbing. There's be no PR from the institution laserhaas Jul 2015 #105

Her Sister agreed to post bond. NOLALady Jul 2015 #60

WOW - if that be true NOLALady - there'd be almost no logical reason for the suicide laserhaas Jul 2015 #62

I've wondered by her parents did 840high Jul 2015 #79

SOmeone in the comments here - said her sister had committed to doing so. laserhaas Jul 2015 #96

Thanks. 840high Jul 2015 #130

Also keep in mind that she had epilepsy and was taking medication for it n8dogg83 Jul 2015 #101

As for me, I'm hoping Doctor Baden gets involved laserhaas Jul 2015 #30

That's what's needed. An outside investigation with no one from Texas shraby Jul 2015 #38

"She would have needed a way to get her feet/body clear of the floor. How did she accomplish that?" cstanleytech Jul 2015 #41

So - this (scientifically) points to the key question(s) laserhaas Jul 2015 #46

Not easy but also not impossible it just depends on how she did it. cstanleytech Jul 2015 #49

My bet is just the opposite.. There was no attempt at reviving.. NONE laserhaas Jul 2015 #51

You are forgetting something, remember the sheriff saying they had documents where she admitted to cstanleytech Jul 2015 #57

That's why moi ended with "OOPs" laserhaas Jul 2015 #58

Her right arm was injured in the arrest, could she do all that one-armed? Lars39 Jul 2015 #69

Correct Lars39 - Many - M A N Y, questions that need answering laserhaas Jul 2015 #71

A most recent injured arm (if that be the case) would be excruciating laserhaas Jul 2015 #75

She told her friend on the phone that she thought her shoulder might be broken. nt tblue37 Jul 2015 #81

Just because someone might have only one arm does not mean a cripple who cannot do anything cstanleytech Jul 2015 #72

Doesn't mean she could. A lot of people aren't able to much of anything with non-dominant arm, hand. Lars39 Jul 2015 #73

It doesnt mean she couldnt either. cstanleytech Jul 2015 #74

what if they 'made her stand' next that metal pole somehow & tied a lg trash bag around her neck to Sunlei Jul 2015 #108

Thats something they should investigate of course to rule it out cstanleytech Jul 2015 #112

All good questions - especially when you see the noose laserhaas Jul 2015 #114

Well they should test the bags to see if plausible cstanleytech Jul 2015 #117

whos the 'they' to investigate? They already stated the last check was against policy, the lazy pol Sunlei Jul 2015 #115

FBI and the DOJ are the two main federal agencies who would probable be looking into that cstanleytech Jul 2015 #118

Think that cell is protected by fbi and doj right now as a crime scene? It will take them years. Sunlei Jul 2015 #120

No, a trashbag was on the can atleast in photos not in it or atleast cstanleytech Jul 2015 #123

you. your're right. I think we're on the same page here. Sunlei Jul 2015 #125

Speculation is futile but... msrizzo Jul 2015 #128

Why use more if you dont need it or want it? cstanleytech Jul 2015 #132

I thought they said she did it with a plastic bag? notadmblnd Jul 2015 #100

I'm researching the original PR's for my GD thread. laserhaas Jul 2015 #104

police posted 'cell evidence photo' showed the bag neatly in the wastepaper basket. Sunlei Jul 2015 #110

Where's experts like Cheech and Chong - laserhaas Jul 2015 #33

Here's the AP article. drm604 Jul 2015 #52

Is it proper protocol for me to edit the posting and link to AP (instead)? laserhaas Jul 2015 #53

I don't make the rules around here, but I don't see why not. drm604 Jul 2015 #86

Well... I did the switch --- and we'll see if anyone alerts me of a protocol controlling laserhaas Jul 2015 #87

could not agree more here ellennelle Jul 2015 #63

Nice to see ya again 'ellennelle' - As always - Spot On! laserhaas Jul 2015 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author olddots Jul 2015 #67

She deserved to die because chapdrum Jul 2015 #68

That's the Faux not-news point of contention; but we're turning that on its head. laserhaas Jul 2015 #70

Sandra was alone in her cell..I can't understand how she would have acquired MJ in that jail, unless whathehell Jul 2015 #77

She could have smuggled it in, it wouldnt be the first time someone has managed to sneak drugs cstanleytech Jul 2015 #124

Do you really see that happening? whathehell Jul 2015 #126

Didn't the report cited on M$NBC also say fredamae Jul 2015 #78

Live body vs deceased body udbcrzy2 Jul 2015 #82

Agree - we need an expert (and hopefully the family obtained top of the line). laserhaas Jul 2015 #88

Independent Medical Examiner udbcrzy2 Jul 2015 #92

Thanks udbcrzy2 laserhaas Jul 2015 #97

Sorry, but cannabis users don't tend to kill themselves. Helen Borg Jul 2015 #85

While I don't agree with the "lots of--" conclusion; I do heartily concur with cannabis uses "don't laserhaas Jul 2015 #98

Is it possible for marijuana to make you that incapacitated? jmowreader Jul 2015 #91

some of the treats & candy can make a person very, very sleepy but no one has died I ever heard of. Sunlei Jul 2015 #122

Sleepy enough to not notice if someone was putting a noose around your neck? jmowreader Jul 2015 #131

sadly, I think after 3 days in jail she was tired,depressed over the 'ruined' life & killed herself. Sunlei Jul 2015 #139

YUP - you can alcohol poison and destroy body functions - even death; but laserhaas Jul 2015 #135