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seafan

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91. So, where is Walter Palmer?
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 02:34 PM
Jul 2015

Last edited Fri Jul 31, 2015, 05:09 PM - Edit history (1)

Daily Mail, July 31st 2015 2PM

It is a question the Fish and Wildlife Service would very much like answered and soon, as it emerged they were investigating whether the killing of Cecil was part of a conspiracy to violate a U.S. law against illegal wildlife trading.

The service said they are investigating the hunt under the Lacey Act, a U.S. law that bars trading in wildlife that has been illegally killed, transported or sold.


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This comes as the petition to extradite Dr, Palmer to Zimbabwe exceeded the required 100,000 signatures, and the White House confirmed it will respond to all petitions that meet that level.

White House spokesman Josh Earnest said it is up to the Justice Department to respond to an extradition order, raising the possibility that Dr. Palmer would be sent to Zimbabwe, should the African nation make a formal request.


edited to add: (It is reported today that Zimbabwe is preparing a formal request.)

And while Dr. Palmer is adamant he knowingly acted within the law and paid $55,000 for a legal permit to kill a lion, Zimbabwe has charged one of his two guides with poaching.


Pursuit of the Lacey Act is also noted here:

Palmer’s actions could have violated the U.S. Lacey Act, a conservation law meant to shield animals from harm. The act, tied to a United Nations treaty for the protection of animals, governs the actions of Americans who violate the laws of foreign governments.

Grace also said the State Department is looking into the matter in Africa. Officials at the State Department did not respond to a request to confirm that information. The three agencies often work closely to investigate crimes against wildlife, often involving the poaching of elephants and rhinoceros throughout southern Africa.

Most recently, they combined forces to investigate Out of Africa Adventurous Safaris in Montgomery, Ala., which led to charges last year for Lacey Act violations, conspiracy, mail fraud, selling illegal rhinoceros hunts not sanctioned by the government and illegally trading rhinoceros horn, which can bring up to $45,000 per pound.



Meanwhile, the hunt for Walter Palmer expands.



Nobody home: Since he was identified as the killer of Cecil the lion on Tuesday, Dr. Walter Palmer or his family have not been seen at his Eden Prarie, Minneapolis home



House sitting? A unidentified man arrives at Dr. Palmer's Minneapolis home on Thursday as the wait continues for the reviled dentist to surface


The man collects the mail from the Palmer residence. It was the first sign of life at the Minneapolis mansion since the identity of Cecil's killer was confirmed on Tuesday

Not at the office:

Closed for business: Dr. Palmer's dental practice abruptly closed on Tuesday morning - patients were even turned away so sudden was the decision


Not at his Florida home:

Quiet: The Marco Island home of Dr. Walter Palmer is unoccupied in Florida. The dentist is facing calls from federal agencies to contact them immediately


A news crew with WINK news of Fort Myers wraps up a live shoot outside a house owned by dentist Dr. Walter Palmer on Marco Island, Florida, on Wednesday



Zimbabwe’s top wildlife regulator said this week that the kill was illegal because Bronkhorst, the guide, lacked the proper hunting permit for a lion kill for 2015. The charge was repeated by prosecutors at his hearing on Wednesday.


Zimbabwean authorities confirmed on Friday that they will seek the extradition of an American dentist who killed a lion that was lured out of a national park and shot with a bow and a gun.

Zimbabwe's wildlife minister says extradition is being sought for Walter J. Palmer, the Twin Cities big-game hunter and dentist implicated in the killing of Cecil, a prized research lion in Zimbabwe.

Oppah Muchinguri, environment, water and climate minister, told a news conference Friday: "We want him tried in Zimbabwe because he violated our laws. ... Police should take the first step to approach the prosecutor general who will approach the Americans. The processes have already started."

"Unfortunately it was too late to apprehend the foreign poacher as he had already absconded to his country of origin," Muchinguri said. "We are appealing to the responsible authorities for his extradition to Zimbabwe so that he be made accountable."

Muchinguri noted the worldwide attention the case has received.

"There has been an outcry," she said. "Almost 500,000 people are calling for his extradition and we need this support."


Separately on Thursday, the head of Zimbabwe’s safari industry association told the Star Tribune that he believes bribery was involved in the hunt because Palmer’s guide did not have proper hunting licenses and permits.

“There had to be [bribes],” said Emmanuel Fundira, president of Zimbabwe’s Safari Operators Association. “The documents which they used for carrying out the hunt were all illegal and fraudulently obtained.”


There is video of Oppah Muchinguri, environment, water and climate minister in Zimbabwe at the link.


An additional quote from her:

“As we frantically try to protect our wildlife from organized gangs such as this one, there are people… who can connive to undermine Zimbabwean laws. One can conclude with confidence that Dr Palmer, being an American citizen, had a well-orchestrated agenda which would tarnish the image of Zimbabwe and further strain the relationship between Zimbabwe and the USA.”



Turn on the TV, Mr. Palmer. You are hunted, just as methodically as you stalked, lured and murdered your defenseless prey.

Words cannot express the revulsion the world's people have for you.



The exact nature of the U.S. investigation remains unclear. African lions are not listed under the core U.S. wildlife protection statute, the Endangered Species Act. A second law, which bans the import of wildlife killed under illegal circumstances, would not come into play because Palmer did not try to bring the lion’s carcass home, lawyers say. A third U.S. statute forbids bribery of foreign officials by Americans traveling overseas, but attorneys said this week it’s not clear if that law would come into play.


We don't yet know that Palmer didn't bring some body part of that lion back into the U. S.

Unlawful poaching of big game is illegal in both the U. S. and Zimbabwe.


We must find Walter Palmer.



(via WP)






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Sickening darkangel218 Jul 2015 #1
Agreed. A fitting punishment would be for that prick to be hunted down in a pay-per-view televised event. Now THAT would be justice! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #42
I'd be happy to see that. n/t raven mad Jul 2015 #96
"was not able to find one sufficiently large enough" restorefreedom Jul 2015 #2
Haaaaaaaaaaa! 7962 Jul 2015 #11
Congratulations! jaded_old_cynic Jul 2015 #26
wow never did before! nt restorefreedom Jul 2015 #31
DUzy! AngryDem001 Jul 2015 #39
oh my...hahahaha hibbing Jul 2015 #54
Meanwhile, in America, the slaughter of thousands of wildlife mammals for trophies continues with nary a complaint. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #3
Hopefully, Cecil's killing will shed light on this MissDeeds Jul 2015 #22
i think this has highlighted restorefreedom Jul 2015 #76
Palmer has already been convicted of hunting illegally in Minnesota csziggy Jul 2015 #84
so he was devastated, but claims that they immediately reported the slaughter magical thyme Jul 2015 #4
and never mind that they tried to destroy the tracking collar Adenoid_Hynkel Jul 2015 #5
typical typical CountAllVotes Jul 2015 #29
"Devastated". But then while he was there wanted to go 7wo7rees Jul 2015 #37
Although I have no use for the guide or Bwana Palmer swilton Jul 2015 #38
The Whole Story Sucks Bigtime. cynzke Jul 2015 #83
So if this was a tragic 'accident' swilton Jul 2015 #6
Palmer is on his second PR firm now. First one dropped him. seafan Jul 2015 #8
This guy Palmer is such a POS! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2015 #12
Even his congresswoman had this to say swilton Jul 2015 #45
Game hunters are scum. nt onehandle Jul 2015 #7
Where is this fucker Palmer... has he turned up yet? WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2015 #9
The guy is such a coward and a loser. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2015 #14
Yep. People are furious. WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2015 #15
Hopefully something might happen. This is a good start to expose these sick fucks! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2015 #21
I hope so. But they've been exposed... WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2015 #25
I hope I'm reading this correctly but swilton Jul 2015 #41
He's in hiding rpannier Jul 2015 #17
Or Caribou Barbie and Tawd. WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2015 #19
Telegraph has a story on Ted's take on the shooting rpannier Jul 2015 #20
Oh, right, it's the *libtard agenda.* WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2015 #23
But see... those are actual facts rpannier Jul 2015 #47
Here's another look... shucks Jul 2015 #56
And your point is what exactly rpannier Jul 2015 #58
Welcome to DU, Ted Nugent! Sheldon Cooper Jul 2015 #61
They lured the lion out.....try some reading before commenting, new poser. The NRA salutes you! Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #67
Your post says 'Link' but there is no link there csziggy Jul 2015 #86
Your post had me confused. Above the snip it mentions Nugent then below the snip A Simple Game Jul 2015 #66
So says Little Teddy Shitty Pants, pedophile-at-large. Raster Jul 2015 #68
The irony. What a coward. n/t freeplessinseattle Jul 2015 #52
the hunter has become the hunted Skittles Jul 2015 #99
Yep. And I have NO problem with the "internet vigilantism" over this. WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2015 #100
What a douchebag. Nt 7962 Jul 2015 #10
When you hunt at night, and when you admit that you can't see collars at night, Faryn Balyncd Jul 2015 #13
What you say times 1000! nt 7wo7rees Jul 2015 #24
dead on right glinda Jul 2015 #36
Here, here!! Yes, indeed! emmadoggy Jul 2015 #40
The Safari Club took it's f/b page down swilton Jul 2015 #43
Agreed. calimary Jul 2015 #46
Maybe I'm missing something... HeartoftheMidwest Jul 2015 #51
Why are you luring animal out if a protected park? yardwork Jul 2015 #64
Sitting in the safety of your vehicle? WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2015 #101
Which one? Dumbo? bluedigger Jul 2015 #16
He should not be able to take the head and skin of a protected animal passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #28
His practice is pretty much toast for now rpannier Jul 2015 #53
they are with the authorities restorefreedom Jul 2015 #32
The trophies have been confiscated as evidence in the criminal trial. nt tblue37 Jul 2015 #34
Unless it's going to a museum or research, Lars39 Jul 2015 #63
that will be the next big step in this fight restorefreedom Jul 2015 #75
What hell...this guy has a real bad urge to KILL. SoapBox Jul 2015 #27
I feel sorry for Jericho. roamer65 Jul 2015 #30
all the family ties are now disrupted restorefreedom Jul 2015 #35
Not only the cubs, but each lioness trying to protect her cubs is at extreme risk. seafan Jul 2015 #44
Apparently the bond was strong, Cecil and Jericho were brothers. roamer65 Jul 2015 #49
Gods, I hope so. okasha Jul 2015 #55
I wish someone on the ground in Zimbabwe okasha Jul 2015 #50
They are: "Cecil the lion's cubs are being protected by his BROTHER" csziggy Jul 2015 #87
Thank you. okasha Jul 2015 #89
It could still happen - the two brothers defended their pride csziggy Jul 2015 #90
I think they knew damn well who they were shooting. glinda Jul 2015 #33
The more I learn about this story the sicker I feel. calimary Jul 2015 #48
i see a future john oliver episode. pansypoo53219 Jul 2015 #57
Hoping for this Sunday. Oliver will figuratively disembowel this miserable excuse for a human. Raster Jul 2015 #69
..... trusty elf Jul 2015 #59
The bastard wanted to kill Dumbo! Helen Borg Jul 2015 #60
just wow. n/t MBS Jul 2015 #62
What a total asshole. Vinca Jul 2015 #65
Excellent OP. K&R nt TBF Jul 2015 #70
but he was so upset after killing the 'wrong lion' restorefreedom Jul 2015 #71
This man is a sick person Gothmog Jul 2015 #72
it was the guide that was "devistated" not Palmer, he didn't give a shit. Javaman Jul 2015 #73
Yes, it is interesting how Palmer left quickly for Johannesburg the next day. seafan Jul 2015 #74
Steve Martin as pussycat-killing, sadistic dentist Andrej28 Jul 2015 #77
i think killing an elephant, is even worse HFRN Jul 2015 #78
Why in the fuck are the Zimbabweans bringing in Americans to shoot their lions and elephants? The Stranger Jul 2015 #79
Money. Money money money... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #81
Where are the zooloogists with the science to debunk that absolute bullshit? The Stranger Jul 2015 #82
In a word, survival. And one more: corruption. seafan Jul 2015 #85
"Why in the fuck" is the same thing going on in America, and in far worse numbers? Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #88
Zimbabwe calls for extradition of dentist who killed Cecil the lion seafan Jul 2015 #80
So, where is Walter Palmer? seafan Jul 2015 #91
hardly relevant, but that MN home is the fugliest McMansion I've seen so far outside "The Sopranos" MisterP Jul 2015 #95
Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2015 #92
Palmer's hunting guide, Theo Bronkhorst, speaks out for the first time seafan Jul 2015 #93
Update: Palmer's representative contacts U. S. officials. (Friday, July 31) seafan Jul 2015 #94
Ok, I hunt for food. Generally birds, sometimes getting lucky with a caribou. raven mad Jul 2015 #97
Did he panic when he skinned Cecil then tried to hide the pelt and head so he could ship it out Monk06 Jul 2015 #98
Sorry but part of me just feels like this: put him in a lions' cage and be done with him. Nt JudyM Aug 2015 #102
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