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davidpdx

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7. I doubt you'd find it as amusing if your son was in prison

Reply to TwilightGardener (Reply #3)

Fri Jul 31, 2015, 10:50 PM

Jul 2015

While I support expanding Pell Grants so that more people can benefit from them, but there is also a need to help rehabilitate people who are in prison as well. For too long the US has had a lock'em up and throw away the key attitude. Prison becomes a revolving door for many who have no way to break the cycle. Prior to 1994, inmates could get Pell Grants and earn credit toward a college degree. I know people who benefited from that. Bill Clinton signed legislation that ended the Pell Grants. That along with budget problems in most states eliminated most rehabilitation programs. Now we need to work to reverse the trend and keep people OUT of prison. College and vocational training are just a few of the things we can do to help people.

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Obama Restores Some Prisoners� Pell Grant Eligibility [View all] uhnope Jul 2015 OP

On his last day in office he should send out a dictate requiring all prisoners AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #1

And the hits keep on coming! Very good decision, and we still........ George II Jul 2015 #2

So if my son committed a crime, he'd finally be eligible for a Pell grant? TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #3

I doubt you'd find it as amusing if your son was in prison davidpdx Jul 2015 #7

I don't think it's amusing at all. I don't think prisoners are more entitled TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #8

It's a not a matter of them being more entitled, it's a matter of trying to help people davidpdx Aug 2015 #9

well-reasoned responses, davidpdx Skittles Aug 2015 #12

To get the Skittles seal of approval is a high honor davidpdx Aug 2015 #16

Also to elaborate a bit on my point davidpdx Aug 2015 #17

everyone deserves a second chance Skittles Aug 2015 #18

I pay taxes that go to Pell grants that my two sons, both in college, can't receive. TwilightGardener Aug 2015 #19

So you are not thankful that you are upper income and both your kids are doing well and in college? hollowdweller Aug 2015 #20

Life circumstances and economic positions? They're criminals. Pell grants are to help TwilightGardener Aug 2015 #21

I would say that is pretty anti-progressive davidpdx Aug 2015 #22

To suggest an "I got mine" attitude from me because I don't believe criminals TwilightGardener Aug 2015 #24

If he is currently inelligible, than I'm not sure how prison would help. stone space Aug 2015 #26

My thought too Yupster Aug 2015 #27

Unsubsidized means that the interest is not deferred while he is in school and continues to davidpdx Aug 2015 #28

the kinds of courses I teach NJCher Jul 2015 #4

I hope you can find some way to help out davidpdx Aug 2015 #10

This is a good thing. Undoing another evil bit of the Clinton years. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #5

Yes, it is davidpdx Aug 2015 #11

makes sense bluestateguy Jul 2015 #6

IMO, much worse is the fraud of many online schools and 'private' for profit schools who depend Sunlei Aug 2015 #14

max amount for a pell grant today, is only $5,775? I didn't realize it was so low. Sunlei Aug 2015 #13

Pell Grants have been cut back a lot since the days when I got them davidpdx Aug 2015 #23

or bring back lower cost/free college credits at least for the prerequisite classes Sunlei Aug 2015 #25

Obama is really kickin' ass in his second term! Drunken Irishman Aug 2015 #15