Latest Breaking News

Igel

(37,543 posts)

53. Of course.

Tue Aug 11, 2015, 07:41 PM

Aug 2015

It was her event, not theirs. People came to see her, not them.

She may not have been informed about their presence until later. She owed them nothing. They may have gotten less than they hoped; they got more than they deserved.

They met with her. She didn't gift them the event, organizational effort, expenses for the event. She didn't lose control over her event and give them the power to control her message or co-opt her stage, to publicly pressure her or embarrass and humiliate her.

This strikes me as fair. That they lost the power struggle and failed to wrest the stage from her is a licit outcome, and a preferable one. They got a smaller reward than they were expecting, but got a reward, and it was a reward and not just expropriation.

BTW, it's "In vino veritas."

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

95 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Black Lives Matter protesters try to disrupt Hillary Clinton event Read more: http://www.politico.c [View all] OneCrazyDiamond Aug 2015 OP

Well, this will be disappointing to some people who thought she hired 'em! MADem Aug 2015 #1

You're right. jalan48 Aug 2015 #7

If they are serious about getting action quickly, they need to address the President and the White JDPriestly Aug 2015 #10

+1. The candidates, whoever they are won't be in power for 2 yrs. as you say. appalachiablue Aug 2015 #25

It is an emergency, and if this were a priority in the Obama administration, it would not have JDPriestly Aug 2015 #44

It's kind of a waste of time. zeemike Aug 2015 #26

"They" want to interrupt her speech? Those women don't represent "Black Americans." pnwmom Aug 2015 #28

The same goes for Sanders and O'Malley I presume? blackspade Aug 2015 #64

Of course. Try reading my post again. Those women only speak for themselves. n/t pnwmom Aug 2015 #71

It's a great question. Pressure on existing government officials would seem logical. jalan48 Aug 2015 #40

Trust me, some people will still believe that she did and that they showed up late on purpose cstanleytech Aug 2015 #16

They'll probably be early next time, especially if the meeting didn't go the way they MADem Aug 2015 #27

I think the Hillary behind this idea is rather crazy. I'm glad she met with the potential JDPriestly Aug 2015 #46

+1 Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #63

Some venues can afford an awful lot of security with the Secret Service... MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #80

The money isn't going away. That's what Citizens United has brought us. MADem Aug 2015 #82

Gee, I wonder if these BLM folks were aware that they're actually tools of Hillary's campaign nt MrScorpio Aug 2015 #2

The Democratic Party OWES black voters BIG TIME. The party must do better. n/t freshwest Aug 2015 #41

I agree completely. Nominating Bernie would be doing better. fbc Aug 2015 #68

The ENTIRE Democratic Party still OWES for decades of black support. Period. n/t freshwest Aug 2015 #76

The democratic party has built up plenty of unpaid debts fbc Aug 2015 #85

...we have a huge group. SoapBox Aug 2015 #3

THAT is your take on this? George II Aug 2015 #6

i can not find a number either,found this pic questionseverything Aug 2015 #79

what more do you need to know Supersedeas Aug 2015 #89

Wha' ? A candidate for the Democratic nomination met with BLM protesters? Oh the horror! George II Aug 2015 #4

Ignored V0ltairesGh0st Aug 2015 #5

Which candidate is that? Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #8

A "supporter" is not the same as a member. I'm a "supporter." MADem Aug 2015 #39

There are no members of Black Lives Matter, there are only supporters Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #43

Well, you have a link to substantiate that, I'm sure. MADem Aug 2015 #74

You don't seem to understand the burden of proof FarrenH Aug 2015 #90

They have a national committee and chapters. They have hired staff. They have a funding stream. MADem Aug 2015 #91

A little googling tells me you're correct FarrenH Aug 2015 #92

They've been funded/building since Trayvon Martin was murdered. MADem Aug 2015 #95

Do you have a link supporting your statement? JDPriestly Aug 2015 #52

Please re-read my post 39 and pay particular attention to the last sentence. MADem Aug 2015 #70

Here is one link. I think Bernie also met with them earlier, but I'm not sure. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #81

Thank you--that's very clear. MADem Aug 2015 #83

Listened twice silenttigersong Aug 2015 #86

"Black Lives Matter Activists Open Massive Bernie Sanders Rally in Los Angeles" Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #9

Of course, otherwise it would have been his third strike. George II Aug 2015 #14

At least Bernie is out there at large public venues and O'Malley is trying. appalachiablue Aug 2015 #31

Yeah, out there at large public venues with the same ol' stump speech. George II Aug 2015 #57

That implication is neither "obvious" nor sensical. n/t beac Aug 2015 #32

What the headline at that link ACTUALLY says Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #29

No, that turned out to be a FALSE REPORT. You shouldn't keep repeating that. MADem Aug 2015 #34

Can you name me a single person who does work for Black Lives Matter? Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #47

Yes. I can name three: Patrisse Cullors. Opal Tometi. Alicia Garza. MADem Aug 2015 #56

They are the founders, but as far as I know they are not paid Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #59

I provided you with a contact page--you can ask the question directly. No need for a middleman. MADem Aug 2015 #65

I already receive communications from them Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #66

I gave you a page where you can write directly to them and get an answer. MADem Aug 2015 #67

You are the one who dismissed Bernie's press secretary as a supporter and not a member Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #69

Well, if you want to "prove me wrong," use the contact page I provided MADem Aug 2015 #72

So you can't provide a link, no need to waste any more time with you. Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #73

You have the power. You refuse to use it. Thanks for being so blatant. Makes it easy to MADem Aug 2015 #78

Sans the snark, that would have been an excellent post I wanted to applaud. n/t freshwest Aug 2015 #58

What other candidate could not bother to do so? JDPriestly Aug 2015 #11

Behind closed doors, sulphurdunn Aug 2015 #17

Link? nt MADem Aug 2015 #42

Can't read the story in the OP? jeff47 Aug 2015 #48

I misunderstood the post--I thought it was in reference to a BS-#BLM meeting. nt MADem Aug 2015 #51

Of course. Igel Aug 2015 #53

My post was in response to this statement: sulphurdunn Aug 2015 #61

LOL - you made my day! Iliyah Aug 2015 #24

Which candidate? arcane1 Aug 2015 #30

which candidate would that be? Because Sanders did meet w/BLM representatives and hired magical thyme Aug 2015 #50

I won't take this group seriously until they disrupt a Rethuglican candidate's event. Crowman1979 Aug 2015 #12

Understandable ShrimpPoboy Aug 2015 #13

Thats why BLM will fail then because this country has 2 major political parties and not one cstanleytech Aug 2015 #18

Really? Wouldn't It Make It Perfectly Clear To The American People In General That.... global1 Aug 2015 #19

Exactly. It probably wont affect their base but any major negative action by the GOP that cstanleytech Aug 2015 #23

That's why they need to be forced to address it. Otherwise it looks like a game of "Yes, but..." arcane1 Aug 2015 #37

+1. Re the WH and Kucinich- really!! appalachiablue Aug 2015 #55

The "Open Carry" people there would shoot them. Archae Aug 2015 #15

The risk of being shot has not stopped Aung San Suu Kyi cstanleytech Aug 2015 #22

Old lady here. How on earth can you put virgogal Aug 2015 #38

Then I respectfully suggest you research him. nt cstanleytech Aug 2015 #54

No need to research him. I followed him as everyone my age did. virgogal Aug 2015 #87

*shrug* I think he fits very well personally. cstanleytech Aug 2015 #88

Doesn't matter OneCrazyDiamond Aug 2015 #49

They'll NEVER get the opportunity to pull that stuff with Hillary Clinton. phleshdef Aug 2015 #20

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #21

Excellent, I support #Blacklivesmatter in their protests Agnosticsherbet Aug 2015 #33

Number23 was right n/t JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #35

IDK what she said on what part of that post... HRC should have BLM start on stage and then arrive. freshwest Aug 2015 #60

Careful! greatauntoftriplets Aug 2015 #62

I'll venture a guess that the second act will be azurnoir Aug 2015 #36

LOL. What a big pile. jeff47 Aug 2015 #45

Yup. There is that little matter of the secret service screening. SunSeeker Aug 2015 #75

I thought she was meeting with them today. onecaliberal Aug 2015 #77

I got a hunch BLM is a RW creation or RW hijacked IkeRepublican Aug 2015 #84

Agree! itcfish Aug 2015 #94

Sorry, but I don't Don't itcfish Aug 2015 #93