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43. and you think Hillary will?

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Bernie Sanders Says He Will Not End Drone Program If Elected President [View all] big_dog Aug 2015 OP

The lesser of two evils. Hulk Aug 2015 #1

I agree TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #5

Funny -- a lot of Sanders supporters HATE voting for the "lesser of two evils" brooklynite Aug 2015 #40

Actually it's more of the same in a different package We're against . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2015 #53

Ridiculous Comparison billhicks76 Aug 2015 #74

Sanders gives a chance to fight the rich and save the middle class. EEO Aug 2015 #98

HOW MUCH lesser is the relevant question here. Bonobo Aug 2015 #110

Nuance. Look it up. passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #117

It is not possible to use such weapons of war nd never kill innocents. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2015 #56

Agreed. There is no putting the empire back in the box for good. EEO Aug 2015 #99

Exactly - and it's the way this effort should have been fought WestSeattle2 Aug 2015 #102

I admit I am disappointed in this booley Aug 2015 #2

Exactly so! Demeter Aug 2015 #100

Anything the US does Jeb Bartlet Aug 2015 #109

When a person sees his entire family, or a neighbor''s family, wiped out merely . . . markpkessinger Aug 2015 #151

I agree. things like that just riversedge Aug 2015 #158

AND 'use drones very, very selectively and effectively.' That would be an improvement in my eyes. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #3

"use drones very, very selectively and effectively." Yes. This is what President Obama has said as BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #8

I haven't condemned Obama for there usage. But I do think we have allowed far Live and Learn Aug 2015 #12

I don't know that. I would need to look up your posting history to be certain. BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #16

One of those links is actually sticking up for Obama. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #24

Then it is a given that if Clinton also says she will not end the drone program there will be Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #42

'exact same stance, same as Obama?' I am not sure what you mean by that. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #52

Thanks. You did understand what I meant. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #54

But the resulting comments, aren't. That's why I offered it in my post. BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #45

You keep failing to address the fact that Bernie is implying that he will use them wiser in order Live and Learn Aug 2015 #48

"that Bernie is implying that he will use them wiser" You have got to be kidding me. BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #58

Yes, I believe that he will use them more prudently. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #66

"Your obsession and complete undeserved disdain for Bernie" You're mistaken. I hold no obsession nor BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #91

Then why don't you just leave Sanders name out of it? Live and Learn Aug 2015 #124

I answered that in my post - documented FACTS matter to me. BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #138

I can assure you I am even more frustrated than you are. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #140

"Where's the outrage now? All I hear is...silence." sheshe2 Aug 2015 #112

It's beginning to appear that way, she. eom BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #141

That's a politician statement he's being a hypocrite on this issue and it's going to be bigdarryl Aug 2015 #162

Drones were the issue until Bernie came out for them BainsBane Aug 2015 #59

No they weren't. Just saying so doesn't make it true. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #67

I don't know about Bernie supporters passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #119

Yes, you're absolutely right, BB.. Drones are/were a Big Issue with so many BS supporters.. but, now Cha Aug 2015 #79

Uhm kenfrequed Aug 2015 #86

No one believes you'll support Hillary in the GE anyway. okasha Aug 2015 #113

That is a despicable post. You have no idea what the poster will do in the GE. nt Live and Learn Aug 2015 #122

+1 markpkessinger Aug 2015 #149

That is Garbage kenfrequed Aug 2015 #156

Well said. TY It is hard to believe some of the crap being spewn around here Live and Learn Aug 2015 #121

Here's another, related matter of interezt. okasha Aug 2015 #80

Not being a co-sponsor is now back-pedaling? Live and Learn Aug 2015 #123

Co-sponsoring it the first time was Not Good Enough Bernie. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #147

Yeah, BlueCali.. so many BS supporters have condemned President Obama for "drones" and now that Cha Aug 2015 #76

Yep. You and I still bear the scars of their wrath when we tried to defend the president. BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #89

Yes, we've been here the whole time supporting President Obama & seeing the too numerous Cha Aug 2015 #90

There was a point when I had left DU because of the anti-Obama sentiment raging through each BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #94

Yes, the uglyness directed at President Obama was extreme.. I left for 2 years in 2010.. Cha Aug 2015 #96

I didn't know that, Cha. Wow. Two years. I think I'd been gone once about that long, too, BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #143

I left for about a year or so shortly after the election because he was getting lambasted... George II Aug 2015 #103

Thanks for the links. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #116

My hypocrisy meter just went off the scales on this one. leftofcool Aug 2015 #159

You might have noticed that I have been one to defend Obama on most occassions. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #129

No, I haven't. And if that's the case, the shoe doesn't fit, does it? BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #134

I see nothing fair about you hurting Bernie or his supporters Live and Learn Aug 2015 #135

I'm doing neither. Criticize and question Sanders? Absolutely. Hurting him? Impossible. BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #139

You haven't been critizing and questioning Sanders. You have been doing it to his supporters. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #142

You haven't read many of posts, have you? BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #144

I have read many of your posts in the past. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #145

You know what is really funny about those links? Live and Learn Aug 2015 #132

I am really sorry to see you taking part in this unfair attack on Bernie and his supporters. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #126

You're a Big Disappointment.. You have to learn to Read.. this is about BS supporters who have been Cha Aug 2015 #127

You do realize that there is a big difference between Live and Learn Aug 2015 #130

I am a Sanders supporter, and I believe that 'targeting killing' RiverNoord Aug 2015 #83

I'm with you on this. alarimer Aug 2015 #173

This Sanders supporter will be every bit as critical of a Sanders drone program as he was . . . markpkessinger Aug 2015 #155

Congratulations! With you that makes two that I've been able to tally so far. BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #165

I think you may be improperly assuming those who are equivocating in this thread , , , markpkessinger Aug 2015 #172

Sometimes the use of drones may be an alternative to all-out war. Raymondo22 Aug 2015 #163

...and look ...I can find out about Lindsay Lohan from the same news source. Excellent! L0oniX Aug 2015 #4

No pics? HubertHeaver Aug 2015 #6

who needs pics when Lilo posts THE VIDEO HERSELF! (and then deletes it right afterwords -natch..) big_dog Aug 2015 #29

I know! Just look at a few of the interesting news articles on that site.... DonViejo Aug 2015 #25

We could spend all day on that site ...and maybe some do. L0oniX Aug 2015 #26

Lindsay Lohan Claims She Was Drugged left-of-center2012 Aug 2015 #63

Is she voting for Bernie? If not then obviously she needs to go back to rehab. L0oniX Aug 2015 #64

did Lilo have a selfie stick while she was filiming herself dancing? big_dog Aug 2015 #170

I don't see the use of drones going away. I agree with evaluating glinda Aug 2015 #7

Those cows are already 'out of the barn' and their is no turning back now. Protect the civilians is Purveyor Aug 2015 #9

+1 How could he possiblty say he wouldn't use them when every country that can will be using them? Live and Learn Aug 2015 #70

Bummer. Drones are quickly spiraling out of control. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #10

Hopefully he'll at least take it under serious review Scootaloo Aug 2015 #11

Got it. Obama droning - bad. Bernie droning - "better." SunSeeker Aug 2015 #13

I do not recall saying this. It's not anywhere in my post Scootaloo Aug 2015 #17

LOL See your post #11 above. SunSeeker Aug 2015 #30

Is Barack Obama running for a third term, SunSeeker? Scootaloo Aug 2015 #33

No, this is LBN, not GDP. SunSeeker Aug 2015 #35

I think Sanders has the superior stance out of the 2016 candidates Scootaloo Aug 2015 #39

No teeth pulling without anesthesia! n/t freshwest Aug 2015 #51

Nobody ever condemned using drones. It was using drones on civilians that upset people. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #20

That's it. The double standard in a nutshell!! rury Aug 2015 #22

Exactly. Double standard...or something else? BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #34

One doesn't have to be a canine to hear THAT whistle. n/t Scootaloo Aug 2015 #41

So stating documented facts are now considered canine whistles by Sanders supporters BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #47

No, but the insinuation that Sanders is more loyal to Israel than to his own country certainly is Scootaloo Aug 2015 #49

+1 Good catch. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #148

No one person is perfect to all folks on all the political issues....as some folks have said. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #46

That is good. It would be foolish to claim to want to end the use of drones. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #14

Best comment in the thread stopwastingmymoney Aug 2015 #111

Drones ? Wash. state Desk Jet Aug 2015 #15

prototypes now in the works for the Trump mobile 2016! big_dog Aug 2015 #36

? Wash. state Desk Jet Aug 2015 #61

how about the 2016 Trump H3 big_dog Aug 2015 #171

Too boxie ! Wash. state Desk Jet Aug 2015 #174

Extra judicial murder cpwm17 Aug 2015 #18

I am very disappointed to hear this about Bernie Sanders... uriel1972 Aug 2015 #65

It Would Be Much, Much Worse Under Trump Or HRC - And It Is Coming To Our Shores Soon cantbeserious Aug 2015 #19

Bottom line. okasha Aug 2015 #21

Nope, bottom line is Sanders is not going to take away a weapon that can save lives. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #28

and you think Hillary will? Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #43

Irrelevant. okasha Aug 2015 #73

You Gotta Be Kidding billhicks76 Aug 2015 #75

Not in the slightest. okasha Aug 2015 #82

Right... kenfrequed Aug 2015 #87

I think Bernie supportees should be more realistic okasha Aug 2015 #92

I disagree with Bernie on this. Martin Eden Aug 2015 #23

Which killings are judicial on any battlefield? The hangings after the war crimes trials, yes. But 24601 Aug 2015 #37

What battlefield, in what war? Martin Eden Aug 2015 #55

Drones are operated by the military . .. PosterChild Aug 2015 #97

Do you understand the implications of that statement? Martin Eden Aug 2015 #107

No, it means that... PosterChild Aug 2015 #114

The ethical distinction is not in the weapon. Martin Eden Aug 2015 #118

Thanks for the clarification . ... PosterChild Aug 2015 #146

Your analogy doesn't apply Martin Eden Aug 2015 #150

In actual fact, PosterChild Aug 2015 #186

Judged by the admistration, or judged by a court of law? Martin Eden Sep 2015 #188

And in the case of... PosterChild Sep 2015 #189

You're the one who insisted the drone operation was a military operation Martin Eden Sep 2015 #192

That is a thoroughly bogus analogy markpkessinger Aug 2015 #169

Since you recognize .... PosterChild Aug 2015 #185

"Imminent," not "immanent," which has a very different meaning markpkessinger Aug 2015 #187

Here is a link to the . .. PosterChild Sep 2015 #191

Here is a link... PosterChild Sep 2015 #190

How about when said 'enemy combatant' is a U.S. citizen, along with his 15-year-old son? markpkessinger Aug 2015 #167

According to the Bush Doctrine, which has been continued and expanded upon Maedhros Aug 2015 #179

The Bush Doctrine of "preemptive war" is the concept applied to Iraq Martin Eden Aug 2015 #182

Please edit this to be within the 4 paragraph limit, not 9 paragraphs uppityperson Aug 2015 #27

LOL. So, extrapolating a single quote undermines Bernie's support! PSPS Aug 2015 #31

great comment. I agree that Karma13612 Aug 2015 #71

False Equivalences By Some Here Are Astounding billhicks76 Aug 2015 #77

Too true. kenfrequed Aug 2015 #88

And so it begins.. VanillaRhapsody Aug 2015 #32

+1. Hoyt Aug 2015 #38

yes, exactly. R B Garr Aug 2015 #128

This will be interesting. JoePhilly Aug 2015 #152

Out of sight truthisfreedom Aug 2015 #44

A somewhat nuanced view of drones use but.... blackspade Aug 2015 #50

I have no issue with this. Drones are just another weapon in the arsenal. BlueEye Aug 2015 #57

ABC news commenting Bluebrick Aug 2015 #60

no clue - and welcome to DU! NRaleighLiberal Aug 2015 #62

Speaking poorly of the news media is my guess. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #68

You should feel honored. Look what they did to Phil Donahue, Dixie Chicks and Bill Maher. L0oniX Aug 2015 #69

Uh, ya, you are in the right place. ! Wash. state Desk Jet Aug 2015 #72

The problem with ANY use of drones is when you can kill without ANY repercussion or risk randys1 Aug 2015 #78

Personally .... PosterChild Aug 2015 #115

Really? Who is it you want them to be killing with the drones? randys1 Aug 2015 #168

He lives in the real world. nt geek tragedy Aug 2015 #81

He would probably use it a hell of a lot less kenfrequed Aug 2015 #84

He has said as much before. salib Aug 2015 #85

Good..... It's an effective tool.. 4bucksagallon Aug 2015 #93

We will not have a candidate who rejects the use of drones. Clinton also supports it. totodeinhere Aug 2015 #95

Since I never dissed the POTUS on this sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #101

Wait, so expressing disagreement with the President on this issue is "dissing" him? n/t markpkessinger Aug 2015 #166

Wow, this is a surprise. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #104

Uh Huh underthematrix Aug 2015 #105

I'm fine with it. retrowire Aug 2015 #106

Guess that means Hilary supporters have one less reason to call him a "moonbat". nt Bonobo Aug 2015 #108

I'm sure you can point to someone who has? brooklynite Aug 2015 #154

Less drones is what America needs right now-IMO. NYCButterfinger Aug 2015 #120

The majority on this board said it wasn't OK for President Obama to use targeted drones Cha Aug 2015 #125

Probably for the best. We can't just all of a sudden beat our swords into plowshares, even though PatrickforO Aug 2015 #131

+1 nt Live and Learn Aug 2015 #133

An important reality check for the Bernie supporters PBass Aug 2015 #136

Not really. As you say, it's just your own 'suspicions' about 'unrealistic fantasies'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #157

"pretty much every President moves to the center after taking office" Martin Eden Aug 2015 #183

Was hoping he was better than that. Jappleseed Aug 2015 #137

The MIC got to Bernie???? JoePhilly Aug 2015 #153

I don't see much of a problem with this at this time. Xyzse Aug 2015 #160

Isn't this HYPERCRITICAL!! bigdarryl Aug 2015 #161

I am a Sanders supporter; I have no problem criticizing his stance on this issue markpkessinger Aug 2015 #175

I think that is a naive postition. malthaussen Aug 2015 #164

Good luck with that HassleCat Aug 2015 #176

Drones are the worst form of weapon, except for all of the others Politicub Aug 2015 #177

The real hypocrisy in this thread . . . markpkessinger Aug 2015 #178

I find Sanders' stated position on drones to be very disturbing and disappointing. Koinos Aug 2015 #180

Drone technology is not the problem - the rules of engagement are. Maedhros Aug 2015 #181

I said before I didn't disagree with Sanders on anything... joshcryer Aug 2015 #184