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Response to randys1 (Reply #41)

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:18 PM

53. I'll tell you how I feel about it

 

I see posts about the email issue as being in the same category as Hillary supporters talking about a "socialist" being unelectable

These are political judgments- the problem with the email isn't that Hillary has committed a horrific crime
the criticism is that she made a political misjudgment in setting up that server, and hasn't handled it well politically.
I feel that this is a heavy weight on her candidacy and could doom it, and Hillary supporters feel that it is having minimal effect.

Hillary supporters say that a "socialist" is unelectable, doomed from the start, whereas I feel that when people are exposed to the reality of Bernie,
the label won't mean any more to the average voter than it does now with the incorrect application of that term to President Obama.

As for her ties to Wall Street and the banks and other types of corporations......they exist......she isn't alone, but that constant infusion of money broadly from rich donors
to her campaign, and the much larger donations to her SuperPACS have the same straitjacket effect on her as they do on every other politician
in the United States. I believe that we have reached a point of no return....if this isn't reversed now, people will lose total control of the government.
I also believe that you can turn their money into a political disadvantage by attacking it in the way that Bernie does.

The flip side of this argument is made by the Hillary supporters.....that you can't win without this money, and that we will lose it all
if we don't get big donors of our own.....and the less radical solutions that Hillary proposed are far better than the doomsday scenario
where we lose by a landslide with our underfunded campaign and the Republicans then destroy what is left of planet earth.

I don't see any of these things as bashing......to me they are just evidence of serious philosophical differences, even if it gets a little heated.









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