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32. Right because we let the nuclear football lie around just wherever.

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Fri Sep 4, 2015, 02:15 PM

Sep 2015

If nobody steals it, then what harm has been done?

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Hillary Clinton On Emails: 'I'm Sorry It Has Been Confusing To People' [View all] DonViejo Sep 2015 OP

Uh....the quick and easy route is gmail or similar. jeff47 Sep 2015 #1

she already had the server dsc Sep 2015 #18

Gmail security for messages is no less secure than her private server KeepItReal Sep 2015 #41

Are you certain of that? karynnj Sep 2015 #43

either way it existed prior to her service as Secretary of State dsc Sep 2015 #98

That makes sense and may explain keeping the campaign IT guy karynnj Sep 2015 #99

FISMA Snerd Sep 2015 #107

you are conflating two things dsc Sep 2015 #121

If you think they are having problems with a personal server imagine what GMail would be liberal N proud Sep 2015 #33

I think his point is that Gmail or whatever commercial provider is what you'd do TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #66

That gets confusing fast - as you can check other accounts with Gmail hexola Sep 2015 #71

She totally wasn't thinking about email systems, which is why she had a server set up TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #2

Pretty much it, right there. arcane1 Sep 2015 #8

It really is a question of trust. delrem Sep 2015 #11

+1 azmom Sep 2015 #30

It's Howdy Gowdy Time! Metric System Sep 2015 #52

Uh... she had the server set up in 2008 for her Presidential campaign apnu Sep 2015 #104

Read about Bryan Pagliano--WaPo and other sources say he set up her server in 2009, and TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #105

+1 TipTok Sep 2015 #111

"A" candidate? How about 17 GOP candidates? Hekate Sep 2015 #131

It's a little like the typical non-apology "I am sorry if something I did offended you." thereismore Sep 2015 #3

The "I'm sorry you're too stupid to understand this." variant of non-apology. Divernan Sep 2015 #6

It's so condescending MissDeeds Sep 2015 #19

^^this^^ peacebird Sep 2015 #100

Ugly Truth: The Hillary Email Issue Is About Making a Powerful Woman Bow Down and Apologize OKNancy Sep 2015 #4

Oh spare me, pluzzzeee! Purveyor Sep 2015 #5

Its more like Whitewater ... investigating a land deal they discover a BJ 6 years later. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #10

Nice spin but nobody but Clinton really know if any information was lost/hacked. Was she bribed? Purveyor Sep 2015 #16

So she has to prove it didn't happen ... that how it works?? JoePhilly Sep 2015 #20

When I hear the "there is no there there" I can only be reminded of the "it depends on what Purveyor Sep 2015 #29

What I enjoy most about your repsponse ... JoePhilly Sep 2015 #35

It is more of a testament of character of the whole Clinton cabal. I could tick off a whole litany Purveyor Sep 2015 #42

So you are using something Bill said, to attack Hillary's character. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #44

Wouldn't wager on that. Darb Sep 2015 #63

You nailed it JoePhilly Darb Sep 2015 #62

Very hard to tell. I was waiting for the Foster murder charge to resurface; instead right here .... Hekate Sep 2015 #132

Well had he fessed up and not lied under oath. History would have been different. yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #73

How exactly would history have been different? JoePhilly Sep 2015 #79

Exactly! How was she to know this would be an issue? Laser102 Sep 2015 #96

Yup ... the reality is that the RW will scream no matter what she does ... JoePhilly Sep 2015 #97

Of course she was hacked nichomachus Sep 2015 #77

Really ... no trace huh ... bzzzzz wrong. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #80

LOL - those pesky facts sure DURHAM D Sep 2015 #81

These guys are unicorn hunters. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #82

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #122

I do not have to prove she was not hacked. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #123

Do you have evidence sir? Kingofalldems Sep 2015 #125

Home brew server? Are you a techie? I have a standing offer from a Data Base Administrator ... Hekate Sep 2015 #133

From the same site: BillH2 Sep 2015 #22

LOL-OK Nancy. jalan48 Sep 2015 #17

ROFLMAO really? She is playing the dumb card now LOL snooper2 Sep 2015 #21

That is part of it, and the sexism that is rampant in the country. There are two standards, one for still_one Sep 2015 #23

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #126

riiiight. couldn't possibly be about having top secret satellite data found in her unsecured email magical thyme Sep 2015 #27

I don't know about anybody else but I don't care if this "powerful woman" bows down or apologizes tularetom Sep 2015 #39

If it would have been John Kerry - I would be writing exactly the same things I am writing now karynnj Sep 2015 #47

I cringed riversedge Sep 2015 #72

Watched it with hubby. Two things: he is now firmly in HRC's camp, & Andrea is a hack. nt Hekate Sep 2015 #129

I agree with her... to a point. fbc Sep 2015 #7

John Kerry has the State Department IG working to investigate their practices and karynnj Sep 2015 #54

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #124

+ 1 MBS Sep 2015 #148

Hasn't been confusing. Maybe to you, but you didn't trust the government. closeupready Sep 2015 #9

And what information was lost to these scary foreign actors?? JoePhilly Sep 2015 #13

And just how do you know it was not compromised? nt tjl148 Sep 2015 #24

Prove that unicorns don't exist. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #31

Are you saying that a negative can't be proved? BillH2 Sep 2015 #51

I hear lots of folks ... JoePhilly Sep 2015 #56

I think Til was concerned about the *possibility* that the machine was hacked. BillH2 Sep 2015 #60

Proof that something was lost is not needed. This is classified government information. Big_Mike Sep 2015 #85

Read (a) in your post. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #91

Gee, guilt by assumption. How do you know Obama isn't an American Citizen. Some people say........ still_one Sep 2015 #34

Snowdenand Manning dealt with CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. Hillary's email DID NOT still_one Sep 2015 #28

You might want to go back and re-read things. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #37

you are right, didn't read it carefully, sorry and thanks. I took out the snark remarks I added at still_one Sep 2015 #55

Right because we let the nuclear football lie around just wherever. closeupready Sep 2015 #32

You do know that the State Department's email was hacked, right? JoePhilly Sep 2015 #36

You do know you are making excuses for a scofflaw, right? closeupready Sep 2015 #38

The jokes are the accusations some of you are making. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #53

How exactly do you know her email wasn't hacked? TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #40

If you have any evidence, provide it. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #50

You have to see evidence of hacking, or else you assume it DIDN'T occur? TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #64

NO ... I simply do not conclude that it DID happen. See how that works. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #88

Isn't there something in between? BillH2 Sep 2015 #114

How do you know it wasn't hacked? former9thward Sep 2015 #48

If you have evidence to back up your claims ... provide it. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #49

The Russians and Chinese do not notify me when they have hacked someone. former9thward Sep 2015 #57

I guess the Russisns only tell the WSJ .... JoePhilly Sep 2015 #59

The Fifth, the Fifth... former9thward Sep 2015 #61

Because the GOP would happily destroy him if they could. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #93

LOL former9thward Sep 2015 #95

Aww, not this shit again. Kingofalldems Sep 2015 #116

Who took the Fifth with Benghazi? former9thward Sep 2015 #128

Same effing thing. Kingofalldems Sep 2015 #130

Because this is the 21st century McCarthy-led HUAC. Are you now or have you ever been a commie? Hekate Sep 2015 #134

He is worried about the FBI destroying him. former9thward Sep 2015 #142

If you maintain that running a server from home makes good security sense... DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #117

Except I did not do that ... sparky. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #120

I made precisely one claim. You've said nothing to counter it. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #143

Manning downloaded over a quarter of a million DURHAM D Sep 2015 #83

That actual breech of security was AWESOME!!!!! JoePhilly Sep 2015 #84

I call them the Pretzel Posters. nt DURHAM D Sep 2015 #86

How I picture them ... JoePhilly Sep 2015 #87

~~~~~ Hekate Sep 2015 #136

We don't know but in all likelihood one or more foreign govts did. Skwmom Sep 2015 #90

"We don't know" .... "... in all likelihood ... " JoePhilly Sep 2015 #92

They've tried to make it confusing. Skwmom Sep 2015 #12

If Snowden leaked Hillary's emails ... many here complaining ... JoePhilly Sep 2015 #14

Snowden released CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. Hillary did not! Which part of that sentence don't you still_one Sep 2015 #25

They were NOT MARKED classified, but classified info (including TOP SECRET) were in the emails. Skwmom Sep 2015 #109

Oh that Hillary! Doesn't she say the darndest things? jalan48 Sep 2015 #15

video is here MBS Sep 2015 #26

Sounds like the question caught her flat-footed BeyondGeography Sep 2015 #45

Yes. BillH2 Sep 2015 #113

Nothing in that interview caught her flat-footed. She had every fact and response at her fingertips. Hekate Sep 2015 #135

“Loose talks, threats, insults...They have consequences" Mrs. Clinton is right. Sunlei Sep 2015 #46

Yes, and loose lips sink ships, or so they used to say in WWII. BillH2 Sep 2015 #112

Look, I don't really understand any of the technical issues here 6chars Sep 2015 #58

another condescending non apology restorefreedom Sep 2015 #65

no apology needed if what she did was legal and standard practice across a wide spectrum of msongs Sep 2015 #67

And Clinton does the exact wrong approach. joshcryer Sep 2015 #68

Will someone please tell me when HRC's computer asiliveandbreathe Sep 2015 #69

They can't ...it didn't happen. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #94

You ask for proof it was hacked... tjl Sep 2015 #115

Hackers boast. Hackers leave trails. Hackers get outed. Oh yeah, they tell on themselves. Hekate Sep 2015 #137

So you have no proof either... tjl Sep 2015 #147

And you're assuming there was bad faith. Hekate Sep 2015 #149

She just made it a whole lot worse...why not double down - and explain herself? hexola Sep 2015 #70

.gov is an UNSECURED system. Only people with a security clearance can use a SECURED system. Skwmom Sep 2015 #89

Oh come on Hillary, "I'm sorry you're oh so easily confused..." truthisfreedom Sep 2015 #74

Here's what's not confusing... Mike Nelson Sep 2015 #75

Give the man a prize. That is it in a nutshell. nt Hekate Sep 2015 #138

Severgate V2.0 Geronimoe Sep 2015 #76

Government IT is not up to date. Contracts are constrained by the bidding process .... Hekate Sep 2015 #139

We're confused, but she's the one who claims she doesn't know how these things work nichomachus Sep 2015 #78

So she is not sorry HappyPlace Sep 2015 #101

Nothing confusing about it at all Joe Turner Sep 2015 #102

How many times does the NY Times have to say they were wrong? NO laws were broken by HRC. Hekate Sep 2015 #140

Kerry says he is concerned about his emails security on a .gov system, there have been breaches on Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #103

Security through obscurity? hexola Sep 2015 #108

"security through obscurity" is an interesting - and maybe accurate way to phrase it karynnj Sep 2015 #119

Security through obscurity sounds good, but that's not what happened here. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #144

That is NOT what Kerry said karynnj Sep 2015 #118

The question itself was f'ing ABSURD LibAsHell Sep 2015 #106

But she STILL wont say she's sorry, period. "I'm sorry I screwed up" Simple. 7962 Sep 2015 #110

'You people are just too dim to understand... CanadaexPat Sep 2015 #127

One teeny tiny leetle bitty question: Karma13612 Sep 2015 #141

She said it was for "convenience"--only having to have one device on her to handle TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #145

it's not like she didn't have umpteen people who could hold one of the two phones Karma13612 Sep 2015 #146