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JoePhilly

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80. Really ... no trace huh ... bzzzzz wrong.

Fri Sep 4, 2015, 05:31 PM

Sep 2015

Here ... just for you ...

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/10/politics/state-department-hack-worst-ever/

See ... if you want to claim she was hacked ... and have everyone get all upset about it ... you need .... EVIDENCE that it actually happened.

The fact the you are "sure Mossad, the KGB, Iran has just about everything they want" ... is meaningless.

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Hillary Clinton On Emails: 'I'm Sorry It Has Been Confusing To People' [View all] DonViejo Sep 2015 OP

Uh....the quick and easy route is gmail or similar. jeff47 Sep 2015 #1

she already had the server dsc Sep 2015 #18

Gmail security for messages is no less secure than her private server KeepItReal Sep 2015 #41

Are you certain of that? karynnj Sep 2015 #43

either way it existed prior to her service as Secretary of State dsc Sep 2015 #98

That makes sense and may explain keeping the campaign IT guy karynnj Sep 2015 #99

FISMA Snerd Sep 2015 #107

you are conflating two things dsc Sep 2015 #121

If you think they are having problems with a personal server imagine what GMail would be liberal N proud Sep 2015 #33

I think his point is that Gmail or whatever commercial provider is what you'd do TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #66

That gets confusing fast - as you can check other accounts with Gmail hexola Sep 2015 #71

She totally wasn't thinking about email systems, which is why she had a server set up TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #2

Pretty much it, right there. arcane1 Sep 2015 #8

It really is a question of trust. delrem Sep 2015 #11

+1 azmom Sep 2015 #30

It's Howdy Gowdy Time! Metric System Sep 2015 #52

Uh... she had the server set up in 2008 for her Presidential campaign apnu Sep 2015 #104

Read about Bryan Pagliano--WaPo and other sources say he set up her server in 2009, and TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #105

+1 TipTok Sep 2015 #111

"A" candidate? How about 17 GOP candidates? Hekate Sep 2015 #131

It's a little like the typical non-apology "I am sorry if something I did offended you." thereismore Sep 2015 #3

The "I'm sorry you're too stupid to understand this." variant of non-apology. Divernan Sep 2015 #6

It's so condescending MissDeeds Sep 2015 #19

^^this^^ peacebird Sep 2015 #100

Ugly Truth: The Hillary Email Issue Is About Making a Powerful Woman Bow Down and Apologize OKNancy Sep 2015 #4

Oh spare me, pluzzzeee! Purveyor Sep 2015 #5

Its more like Whitewater ... investigating a land deal they discover a BJ 6 years later. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #10

Nice spin but nobody but Clinton really know if any information was lost/hacked. Was she bribed? Purveyor Sep 2015 #16

So she has to prove it didn't happen ... that how it works?? JoePhilly Sep 2015 #20

When I hear the "there is no there there" I can only be reminded of the "it depends on what Purveyor Sep 2015 #29

What I enjoy most about your repsponse ... JoePhilly Sep 2015 #35

It is more of a testament of character of the whole Clinton cabal. I could tick off a whole litany Purveyor Sep 2015 #42

So you are using something Bill said, to attack Hillary's character. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #44

Wouldn't wager on that. Darb Sep 2015 #63

You nailed it JoePhilly Darb Sep 2015 #62

Very hard to tell. I was waiting for the Foster murder charge to resurface; instead right here .... Hekate Sep 2015 #132

Well had he fessed up and not lied under oath. History would have been different. yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #73

How exactly would history have been different? JoePhilly Sep 2015 #79

Exactly! How was she to know this would be an issue? Laser102 Sep 2015 #96

Yup ... the reality is that the RW will scream no matter what she does ... JoePhilly Sep 2015 #97

Of course she was hacked nichomachus Sep 2015 #77

Really ... no trace huh ... bzzzzz wrong. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #80

LOL - those pesky facts sure DURHAM D Sep 2015 #81

These guys are unicorn hunters. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #82

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #122

I do not have to prove she was not hacked. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #123

Do you have evidence sir? Kingofalldems Sep 2015 #125

Home brew server? Are you a techie? I have a standing offer from a Data Base Administrator ... Hekate Sep 2015 #133

From the same site: BillH2 Sep 2015 #22

LOL-OK Nancy. jalan48 Sep 2015 #17

ROFLMAO really? She is playing the dumb card now LOL snooper2 Sep 2015 #21

That is part of it, and the sexism that is rampant in the country. There are two standards, one for still_one Sep 2015 #23

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #126

riiiight. couldn't possibly be about having top secret satellite data found in her unsecured email magical thyme Sep 2015 #27

I don't know about anybody else but I don't care if this "powerful woman" bows down or apologizes tularetom Sep 2015 #39

If it would have been John Kerry - I would be writing exactly the same things I am writing now karynnj Sep 2015 #47

I cringed riversedge Sep 2015 #72

Watched it with hubby. Two things: he is now firmly in HRC's camp, & Andrea is a hack. nt Hekate Sep 2015 #129

I agree with her... to a point. fbc Sep 2015 #7

John Kerry has the State Department IG working to investigate their practices and karynnj Sep 2015 #54

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #124

+ 1 MBS Sep 2015 #148

Hasn't been confusing. Maybe to you, but you didn't trust the government. closeupready Sep 2015 #9

And what information was lost to these scary foreign actors?? JoePhilly Sep 2015 #13

And just how do you know it was not compromised? nt tjl148 Sep 2015 #24

Prove that unicorns don't exist. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #31

Are you saying that a negative can't be proved? BillH2 Sep 2015 #51

I hear lots of folks ... JoePhilly Sep 2015 #56

I think Til was concerned about the *possibility* that the machine was hacked. BillH2 Sep 2015 #60

Proof that something was lost is not needed. This is classified government information. Big_Mike Sep 2015 #85

Read (a) in your post. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #91

Gee, guilt by assumption. How do you know Obama isn't an American Citizen. Some people say........ still_one Sep 2015 #34

Snowdenand Manning dealt with CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. Hillary's email DID NOT still_one Sep 2015 #28

You might want to go back and re-read things. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #37

you are right, didn't read it carefully, sorry and thanks. I took out the snark remarks I added at still_one Sep 2015 #55

Right because we let the nuclear football lie around just wherever. closeupready Sep 2015 #32

You do know that the State Department's email was hacked, right? JoePhilly Sep 2015 #36

You do know you are making excuses for a scofflaw, right? closeupready Sep 2015 #38

The jokes are the accusations some of you are making. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #53

How exactly do you know her email wasn't hacked? TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #40

If you have any evidence, provide it. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #50

You have to see evidence of hacking, or else you assume it DIDN'T occur? TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #64

NO ... I simply do not conclude that it DID happen. See how that works. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #88

Isn't there something in between? BillH2 Sep 2015 #114

How do you know it wasn't hacked? former9thward Sep 2015 #48

If you have evidence to back up your claims ... provide it. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #49

The Russians and Chinese do not notify me when they have hacked someone. former9thward Sep 2015 #57

I guess the Russisns only tell the WSJ .... JoePhilly Sep 2015 #59

The Fifth, the Fifth... former9thward Sep 2015 #61

Because the GOP would happily destroy him if they could. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #93

LOL former9thward Sep 2015 #95

Aww, not this shit again. Kingofalldems Sep 2015 #116

Who took the Fifth with Benghazi? former9thward Sep 2015 #128

Same effing thing. Kingofalldems Sep 2015 #130

Because this is the 21st century McCarthy-led HUAC. Are you now or have you ever been a commie? Hekate Sep 2015 #134

He is worried about the FBI destroying him. former9thward Sep 2015 #142

If you maintain that running a server from home makes good security sense... DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #117

Except I did not do that ... sparky. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #120

I made precisely one claim. You've said nothing to counter it. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #143

Manning downloaded over a quarter of a million DURHAM D Sep 2015 #83

That actual breech of security was AWESOME!!!!! JoePhilly Sep 2015 #84

I call them the Pretzel Posters. nt DURHAM D Sep 2015 #86

How I picture them ... JoePhilly Sep 2015 #87

~~~~~ Hekate Sep 2015 #136

We don't know but in all likelihood one or more foreign govts did. Skwmom Sep 2015 #90

"We don't know" .... "... in all likelihood ... " JoePhilly Sep 2015 #92

They've tried to make it confusing. Skwmom Sep 2015 #12

If Snowden leaked Hillary's emails ... many here complaining ... JoePhilly Sep 2015 #14

Snowden released CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. Hillary did not! Which part of that sentence don't you still_one Sep 2015 #25

They were NOT MARKED classified, but classified info (including TOP SECRET) were in the emails. Skwmom Sep 2015 #109

Oh that Hillary! Doesn't she say the darndest things? jalan48 Sep 2015 #15

video is here MBS Sep 2015 #26

Sounds like the question caught her flat-footed BeyondGeography Sep 2015 #45

Yes. BillH2 Sep 2015 #113

Nothing in that interview caught her flat-footed. She had every fact and response at her fingertips. Hekate Sep 2015 #135

�Loose talks, threats, insults...They have consequences" Mrs. Clinton is right. Sunlei Sep 2015 #46

Yes, and loose lips sink ships, or so they used to say in WWII. BillH2 Sep 2015 #112

Look, I don't really understand any of the technical issues here 6chars Sep 2015 #58

another condescending non apology restorefreedom Sep 2015 #65

no apology needed if what she did was legal and standard practice across a wide spectrum of msongs Sep 2015 #67

And Clinton does the exact wrong approach. joshcryer Sep 2015 #68

Will someone please tell me when HRC's computer asiliveandbreathe Sep 2015 #69

They can't ...it didn't happen. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #94

You ask for proof it was hacked... tjl Sep 2015 #115

Hackers boast. Hackers leave trails. Hackers get outed. Oh yeah, they tell on themselves. Hekate Sep 2015 #137

So you have no proof either... tjl Sep 2015 #147

And you're assuming there was bad faith. Hekate Sep 2015 #149

She just made it a whole lot worse...why not double down - and explain herself? hexola Sep 2015 #70

.gov is an UNSECURED system. Only people with a security clearance can use a SECURED system. Skwmom Sep 2015 #89

Oh come on Hillary, "I'm sorry you're oh so easily confused..." truthisfreedom Sep 2015 #74

Here's what's not confusing... Mike Nelson Sep 2015 #75

Give the man a prize. That is it in a nutshell. nt Hekate Sep 2015 #138

Severgate V2.0 Geronimoe Sep 2015 #76

Government IT is not up to date. Contracts are constrained by the bidding process .... Hekate Sep 2015 #139

We're confused, but she's the one who claims she doesn't know how these things work nichomachus Sep 2015 #78

So she is not sorry HappyPlace Sep 2015 #101

Nothing confusing about it at all Joe Turner Sep 2015 #102

How many times does the NY Times have to say they were wrong? NO laws were broken by HRC. Hekate Sep 2015 #140

Kerry says he is concerned about his emails security on a .gov system, there have been breaches on Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #103

Security through obscurity? hexola Sep 2015 #108

"security through obscurity" is an interesting - and maybe accurate way to phrase it karynnj Sep 2015 #119

Security through obscurity sounds good, but that's not what happened here. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #144

That is NOT what Kerry said karynnj Sep 2015 #118

The question itself was f'ing ABSURD LibAsHell Sep 2015 #106

But she STILL wont say she's sorry, period. "I'm sorry I screwed up" Simple. 7962 Sep 2015 #110

'You people are just too dim to understand... CanadaexPat Sep 2015 #127

One teeny tiny leetle bitty question: Karma13612 Sep 2015 #141

She said it was for "convenience"--only having to have one device on her to handle TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #145

it's not like she didn't have umpteen people who could hold one of the two phones Karma13612 Sep 2015 #146