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9. Greatest Charlie Rose show -- Amy Goodman cleans his clock, discussing Dan Rather
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 09:21 AM
Sep 2015

Last edited Sun Sep 13, 2015, 11:21 AM - Edit history (1)

and the media's Iraq War reporting...

Things in ()'s and "..." are mine. The bold face is mine too - they didn't raise their voices at these points.

AMY GOODMAN: Unfortunately in this country I have to disagree with you Charlie respectfully on the issue of NBC, CBS, and ABC — they have provided a very serious disservice to the people of this country when it comes to a true debate around war. Most people are opposed to war yet the vast majority of guests across the board on the networks are for war. They’re a parade of retired generals and -

CHARLIE ROSE: You can make that argument and look at it. That’s not the point I was taking. The point I was making is it’s not dictated by with whoever the corporate ownership is. I promise you that — they are not dictating. They are not saying we want you to have more generals who are in favor of the war than you have generals who are in opposition to the war; that’s just not the way it works.

AMY GOODMAN: They don’t have to say that. They hire the people who will do just that.

CHARLIE ROSE: The argument I have with respect is Peter Jennings, Tom Brokaw, and Dan Rather — a whole range of people — are journalists who have paid their dues and they are very competent journalists (etc. etc. snip)

AMY GOODMAN: I could only say that during the Persian Gulf War what we saw on NBC and CBS, NBC owned by General Electric–at the time CBS was owned by Westinghouse — two of the major nuclear weapons manufacturers in the world — I don’t think it was any accident that what we saw on TV was a military hardware show.

... (some more back and forth)

CHARLIE ROSE: You are suggesting that because they choose the people. I'm just saying that this is a debate for another time which I’m happy to have them come and talk about that.

AMY GOODMAN: Let me quote Dan Rather himself on BBC — he says he thinks he would be necklaced. He thinks he that he cannot simply speak out and ask the kinds of questions that should be asked. That’s quoting Dan Rather.

CHARLIE ROSE: (hemming and hawing and more hemming and hawing)


More: video and transcript [font color = red](the fun part on the video begins at about 13:40[/font] - the video is SOOO much better than the transcript above because its easier to follow and you get to see Amy Goodman in attack dog mode and poor Charlie getting beaten down and trying to come up with something, and trying to talk down to her. And Amy Goodman's little victory smile right at the end
http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2013/3/19/video_2003_charlie_rose_interview_with_amy_goodman_about_iraq_war_protests

Now if all Charlie Rose shows were like that, I'd be happy if PBS trashes its whole lineup and broadcasts Charlie Rose 24/7/365 (366 in leap years)

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Can't wait to see this. tabasco Sep 2015 #1
A reminder of one more Ineeda Sep 2015 #2
I'm so happy to see this. I hope we revisit much of what haikugal Sep 2015 #3
god, do I remember this... CTyankee Sep 2015 #4
Go see A Walk In The Woods JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #7
didn't know that! hey, thanks...will look for it... CTyankee Sep 2015 #8
Based on Bill Bryson's book JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #13
thanks. sounds good. CTyankee Sep 2015 #16
At last! This may cast too many questions for Jeb. asjr Sep 2015 #5
Glad to see that. Of course, Rather will be vindicated in history. Live and Learn Sep 2015 #6
Greatest Charlie Rose show -- Amy Goodman cleans his clock, discussing Dan Rather progree Sep 2015 #9
Love Amy! Charlie Rose...pfffft... CTyankee Sep 2015 #17
coming back later to check this out. rurallib Sep 2015 #18
Thanks, progree. I don't watch the Charlie Rose show because he is such an obvious mouthpiece. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #23
I haven't watched him in years progree Sep 2015 #32
+1. Lychee2 Sep 2015 #35
Thanks for the link - powerful reminder that most people opposed GWB and his rationale erronis Sep 2015 #31
K&R. Great interview! So much important history discussed. Overseas Sep 2015 #34
One of the last honest voices... icarusxat Sep 2015 #10
He used to rehearse in front of a mirror. Lychee2 Sep 2015 #36
But I also remember Roger Mudd being the better of the two. erronis Sep 2015 #54
I read Mary Mapes book about the whole thing tblue Sep 2015 #11
this brought a smile to my face CatWoman Sep 2015 #12
The Truth colsohlibgal Sep 2015 #14
I love your post! Enthusiast Sep 2015 #24
Dan went to war with a microphone in his hand. "W" stayed home drunk in the Texas NCjack Sep 2015 #15
Sounds like Rather has forgiven Mapes rocktivity Sep 2015 #19
Here's a good review from The Hollywood Reporter: PearliePoo2 Sep 2015 #20
Holy Shit! Are you telling me the media isn't liberal? mountain grammy Sep 2015 #21
The rules edhopper Sep 2015 #22
Good point! SalviaBlue Sep 2015 #29
In addition to the personal destruction of a good reporter, two things made this even sadder karynnj Sep 2015 #25
Great post - thanks. I'd give you a thumbs-up without this long winded title, but can't... erronis Sep 2015 #53
Yes, yes, yes. Plus there was more than that going on in Ohio... JudyM Sep 2015 #57
Good! One of the things about the whole fiasco that infuriated me was 1monster Sep 2015 #26
Dan Rather will be vindicated. seafan Sep 2015 #27
"inadvertently"? reddread Sep 2015 #42
I'll look for this movie. I love Dan Rather, always have 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #28
I knew Dan's sister Pat TexasBushwhacker Sep 2015 #30
Dan Rather doesn't want anyone else to feel sorry for him. Lychee2 Sep 2015 #33
WTF are you talking about? Skittles Sep 2015 #46
Sorry if you didn't get the joke. Lychee2 Sep 2015 #52
This is a "must see"! eom Duval Sep 2015 #37
can'twait to see it! bbgrunt Sep 2015 #38
Glad this movie was made. It will document W's AWOL status from the Guard arely staircase Sep 2015 #39
And just think a once respected ------------------------ turbinetree Sep 2015 #40
Kicked, rec'd and tweeted. Kingofalldems Sep 2015 #41
Thank you turbinetree Sep 2015 #48
Remember Robbins Sep 2015 #43
k and r...nt Stuart G Sep 2015 #44
I remember emailing him during his Air Guard exposé, trying to warn him of the bogus 1972 document. forest444 Sep 2015 #45
The IMDB rating is being freeped. pamela Sep 2015 #47
just voted spiderpig Sep 2015 #49
Thanks for voting. pamela Sep 2015 #50
Have you read "House of Secrets" by Russ Baker? spiderpig Sep 2015 #55
No, I haven't read that yet. pamela Sep 2015 #56
The Truth Will Out cantbeserious Sep 2015 #51
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