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In reply to the discussion: Dan Rather moved by Toronto premiere of 'Truth' [View all]progree
(13,116 posts)9. Greatest Charlie Rose show -- Amy Goodman cleans his clock, discussing Dan Rather
Last edited Sun Sep 13, 2015, 11:21 AM - Edit history (1)
and the media's Iraq War reporting...
Things in ()'s and "..." are mine. The bold face is mine too - they didn't raise their voices at these points.
AMY GOODMAN: Unfortunately in this country I have to disagree with you Charlie respectfully on the issue of NBC, CBS, and ABC they have provided a very serious disservice to the people of this country when it comes to a true debate around war. Most people are opposed to war yet the vast majority of guests across the board on the networks are for war. Theyre a parade of retired generals and -
CHARLIE ROSE: You can make that argument and look at it. Thats not the point I was taking. The point I was making is its not dictated by with whoever the corporate ownership is. I promise you that they are not dictating. They are not saying we want you to have more generals who are in favor of the war than you have generals who are in opposition to the war; thats just not the way it works.
AMY GOODMAN: They dont have to say that. They hire the people who will do just that.
CHARLIE ROSE: The argument I have with respect is Peter Jennings, Tom Brokaw, and Dan Rather a whole range of people are journalists who have paid their dues and they are very competent journalists (etc. etc. snip)
AMY GOODMAN: I could only say that during the Persian Gulf War what we saw on NBC and CBS, NBC owned by General Electricat the time CBS was owned by Westinghouse two of the major nuclear weapons manufacturers in the world I dont think it was any accident that what we saw on TV was a military hardware show.
... (some more back and forth)
CHARLIE ROSE: You are suggesting that because they choose the people. I'm just saying that this is a debate for another time which Im happy to have them come and talk about that.
AMY GOODMAN: Let me quote Dan Rather himself on BBC he says he thinks he would be necklaced. He thinks he that he cannot simply speak out and ask the kinds of questions that should be asked. Thats quoting Dan Rather.
CHARLIE ROSE: (hemming and hawing and more hemming and hawing)
CHARLIE ROSE: You can make that argument and look at it. Thats not the point I was taking. The point I was making is its not dictated by with whoever the corporate ownership is. I promise you that they are not dictating. They are not saying we want you to have more generals who are in favor of the war than you have generals who are in opposition to the war; thats just not the way it works.
AMY GOODMAN: They dont have to say that. They hire the people who will do just that.
CHARLIE ROSE: The argument I have with respect is Peter Jennings, Tom Brokaw, and Dan Rather a whole range of people are journalists who have paid their dues and they are very competent journalists (etc. etc. snip)
AMY GOODMAN: I could only say that during the Persian Gulf War what we saw on NBC and CBS, NBC owned by General Electricat the time CBS was owned by Westinghouse two of the major nuclear weapons manufacturers in the world I dont think it was any accident that what we saw on TV was a military hardware show.
... (some more back and forth)
CHARLIE ROSE: You are suggesting that because they choose the people. I'm just saying that this is a debate for another time which Im happy to have them come and talk about that.
AMY GOODMAN: Let me quote Dan Rather himself on BBC he says he thinks he would be necklaced. He thinks he that he cannot simply speak out and ask the kinds of questions that should be asked. Thats quoting Dan Rather.
CHARLIE ROSE: (hemming and hawing and more hemming and hawing)
More: video and transcript [font color = red](the fun part on the video begins at about 13:40[/font] - the video is SOOO much better than the transcript above because its easier to follow and you get to see Amy Goodman in attack dog mode and poor Charlie getting beaten down and trying to come up with something, and trying to talk down to her. And Amy Goodman's little victory smile right at the end
http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2013/3/19/video_2003_charlie_rose_interview_with_amy_goodman_about_iraq_war_protests
Now if all Charlie Rose shows were like that, I'd be happy if PBS trashes its whole lineup and broadcasts Charlie Rose 24/7/365 (366 in leap years)
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Greatest Charlie Rose show -- Amy Goodman cleans his clock, discussing Dan Rather
progree
Sep 2015
#9
Thanks, progree. I don't watch the Charlie Rose show because he is such an obvious mouthpiece.
Enthusiast
Sep 2015
#23
Thanks for the link - powerful reminder that most people opposed GWB and his rationale
erronis
Sep 2015
#31
Dan went to war with a microphone in his hand. "W" stayed home drunk in the Texas
NCjack
Sep 2015
#15
In addition to the personal destruction of a good reporter, two things made this even sadder
karynnj
Sep 2015
#25
Great post - thanks. I'd give you a thumbs-up without this long winded title, but can't...
erronis
Sep 2015
#53
Glad this movie was made. It will document W's AWOL status from the Guard
arely staircase
Sep 2015
#39