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60. The pull-ups & push-ups is the dirty little secret they don't like to talk about

Thu Sep 17, 2015, 01:23 PM

Sep 2015

Male Marines had a minimum standard in the pull/push ups to pass the PT test. Female Marines don't do pull/push ups. They do a modified "hang" and they keep their knees on the floor during push-ups.

Why is this allowed?

Seems like an inability to support their own body weight during simple exercise. Yet, they insisist on putting them into real-live, full blown combat?

Glad I'm not in the Corps anymore.

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Marine study finds women suffer more injuries, shoot less accurately than men [View all] mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2015 OP

Averages and minimum acceptable levels Android3.14 Sep 2015 #1

I agree. Not all women are physically strong enough. passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #6

We aren't just talking about the average guy here madville Sep 2015 #34

It looks like physical differences predominated. Yo_Mama Sep 2015 #53

yes angryvet Sep 2015 #2

They have woman's boots and clothes now yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #29

bullshit beergood Sep 2015 #3

That doesn't contradict the study DavidDvorkin Sep 2015 #4

my bad beergood Sep 2015 #24

Canada is north of the United States. mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2015 #5

in other words beergood Sep 2015 #25

the study is not really needed though treestar Sep 2015 #28

How surprising! HassleCat Sep 2015 #7

Some comments happyslug Sep 2015 #8

HS, I beg to differ Big_Mike Sep 2015 #16

First Officer do NOT have to known the job of the enlisted men their lead happyslug Sep 2015 #19

Yes very good treestar Sep 2015 #27

Boots are the most important factor happyslug Sep 2015 #33

Once when I was young madokie Sep 2015 #9

How large was the test group? gregcrawford Sep 2015 #10

300 men, 100 women. Xithras Sep 2015 #12

Way lower. It's not subtle. Yo_Mama Sep 2015 #54

Over time the performance of women could also improve happyslug Sep 2015 #56

Women are customized for endurance, not power. Yo_Mama Sep 2015 #57

We always had the joke 1939 Sep 2015 #26

My Father always talked about firing M1 30'06 rounds.... happyslug Sep 2015 #35

Many prefered using the M2AP round, because it was more accurate, and penetrated trees better. n/t oneshooter Sep 2015 #36

That round is why the US decided NOT to attack the Red Army in 1945 happyslug Sep 2015 #37

Don't overlook the continuing war in the Pacific. oneshooter Sep 2015 #41

And the Japanese were counting on the Russians happyslug Sep 2015 #43

Even at that time the military did not want the surrender. oneshooter Sep 2015 #44

Thus the fear of a Communist Revolution was the driving force behind the surrender happyslug Sep 2015 #47

Springfields in WWII 1939 Sep 2015 #46

Untill 1943 the Marines drew their arms from US Army Depots oneshooter Sep 2015 #49

The Army was very short of M1 into 1943. 1939 Sep 2015 #51

The line I read was the Marines had REJECTED the M1 as not reliable enough. happyslug Sep 2015 #52

Marines did love their Springfields. oneshooter Sep 2015 #58

I would be really ticked if my son was in the military TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2015 #11

I have heard that attack on women when it comes to Police work happyslug Sep 2015 #38

Also noteworthy - they did not come to the exercise with equal levels of training caraher Sep 2015 #13

I don't know why they had to spend money on a study, I found out men had better aim years ago ripcord Sep 2015 #14

I wonder why this is. Lychee2 Sep 2015 #23

Women Are Awfully Good A Pool ProfessorGAC Sep 2015 #31

I would have agreed with you in the 1970s, but now I am less sure happyslug Sep 2015 #39

so the study found men are,in general,heavier and stronger than women and in combat thats a big deal Demonaut Sep 2015 #15

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Sep 2015 #17

Combat is a long, grueling, miserable occupation & that's just the physical aspect. GOLGO 13 Sep 2015 #18

Navy secretary criticizes controversial Marine Corps gender integration study mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2015 #20

If you have to handpick "high performers" to be able compete with average male Marines hack89 Sep 2015 #21

There are a thousand military jobs that women can do XemaSab Sep 2015 #22

Women, injuries and Q-angle.... 4139 Sep 2015 #30

I remember a study from when I was active duty madville Sep 2015 #32

The pull-ups & push-ups is the dirty little secret they don't like to talk about GOLGO 13 Sep 2015 #60

Does this mean Dick Cheney is a woman? n/t Kennah Sep 2015 #40

Maybe dosing women with testosterone would work if they want to be in infantry AngryAmish Sep 2015 #42

Not all agree women aren't suited to Marines Panich52 Sep 2015 #45

BS rockfordfile Sep 2015 #48

Welcome to DU. You can't go wrong saying mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2015 #50

Like it or not rockfordfile Sep 2015 #59

Read my comments above, I think it is training BEFORE one enters the service. happyslug Sep 2015 #55