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ellisonz

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23. If this is all the case, why is there a campaign already underway in Iraq and Syria?
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 06:01 PM
Sep 2015

I am not suggesting war with the Turks or major boots on the ground in Syria (special forces are already deploying in Syria via Iraq). I am suggesting firm diplomacy backed by muscle with an agreed upon peace plan to remove bad actors, create a stalemate and then divide the country into zones under mandate (see Yugoslavia). There are already capable units fighting both ISIS (the Kurds) and Assad (moderate rebels in Aleppo and the South). These groups have complained bitterly about a lack of American military support despite there being strong consensus the US has the existing military infrastructure to carry out these missions. Additionally, you're overlooking what Jordan and Iraq offer in terms of places to use for close air support, arms distribution and training.

The position against a Kurdish autonomous zone is unacceptable.

The position against zones safe from the Assad regime is also unacceptable.

The West better get its plan together or this will only get worse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_intervention_against_ISIL

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So for 42 million salimbag Sep 2015 #1
This is a Lie McKim Sep 2015 #2
Proof atreides1 Sep 2015 #4
Why do you think they would lie about this? JDPriestly Sep 2015 #5
To make ISIS underestimate their enemy. christx30 Sep 2015 #7
Maybe to hide the fact that many of the moderates they trained were not so moderate after all PersonNumber503602 Sep 2015 #11
54 trained. 4 or 5 remain. GeorgeGist Sep 2015 #6
Luckily they repelled the attack Yupster Sep 2015 #24
What Three hots, a cot for three to six months, then given a M16 and sent home? What the downside? happyslug Sep 2015 #8
One downside ia if ypu get caught you may be crucified. AngryAmish Sep 2015 #20
Caught by who? ISIS, they buying, the Kurds? They in the market also. happyslug Sep 2015 #21
the number they would have started with would karynnj Sep 2015 #9
uh huh. nt Javaman Sep 2015 #12
"U.S.trained moderate Syrian fighters" delrem Sep 2015 #3
This is fail! ellisonz Sep 2015 #10
From what Air Base? The Turks will object to any aid from Turkish bases. happyslug Sep 2015 #14
The Turks are actually helping ISIS with their bombing of the Kurds. ellisonz Sep 2015 #15
The bases in the Persian Gulf are to far away... happyslug Sep 2015 #16
The logistics really aren't a problem. ellisonz Sep 2015 #17
Projecting power against people on the move? happyslug Sep 2015 #22
If this is all the case, why is there a campaign already underway in Iraq and Syria? ellisonz Sep 2015 #23
Yah ... the rest are fighting *for* ISIS ... Nihil Sep 2015 #13
And most of the GOP wants to add boots on the ground JCMach1 Sep 2015 #18
When they couldn't get the training numbers they'd been hoping for (mostly because Syrian TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #19
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