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mahatmakanejeeves

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Fri Sep 18, 2015, 04:12 PM Sep 2015

AP sources: Marines seek to close combat jobs to women [View all]

Source: Associated Press via Marine Corps Times

By Lolita C. Baldor, The Associated Press 12:02 p.m. EDT September 18, 2015

WASHINGTON — The Marine Corps is expected to ask that women not be allowed to compete for several front-line combat jobs, inflaming tensions between Navy and Marine leaders, U.S. officials say.

The tentative decision has ignited a debate over whether Navy Secretary Ray Mabus can veto any Marine Corps proposal to prohibit women from serving in certain infantry and reconnaissance positions. And it puts Gen. Joseph Dunford, the Marine Corps commandant who takes over soon as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, at odds with the other three military services, who are expected to open all of their combat jobs to women.

No final decisions have been made or forwarded to Pentagon leaders, but officials say Defense Secretary Ash Carter is aware of the dispute and intends to review the Marine plan. The Marine Corps is part of the Navy, so Mabus is secretary of both services.

The ongoing divide has put Dunford in the spotlight as he prepares to start his new job next week. And it puts him in a somewhat awkward position of eventually having to review and pass judgment — as chairman — on a waiver request that he submitted himself while serving as Marine commandant.

Read more: http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/2015/09/18/ap-sources-marines-seek-close-combat-jobs-women/72398172/



Hat tip, Salt Lake Tribune: Marines seek to close combat jobs to women
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Stepping on each others' dicks--what a clown show. TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #1
Probably a good idea given the results of recent studies StrongBad Sep 2015 #2
Maybe we should address their misogyny first, and how that might have impacted their study. jtuck004 Sep 2015 #4
I'm guessing the Marines are afraid of unneessary deaths due to mixed combat operations. StrongBad Sep 2015 #5
You hit that nail on the head. 7962 Sep 2015 #7
I am living in a racist county run by misogynists, in which women get paid less, disrespected jtuck004 Sep 2015 #12
So basically you're saying that no evidence or data can change your mind or your existing narrative. StrongBad Sep 2015 #14
You live in a racist COUNTRY run by misogynists, in which women get less opportunities. Major Hogwash Sep 2015 #23
facts suck Demonaut Sep 2015 #24
I read the study, and the hard data seemed to preclude misogyny. Yo_Mama Sep 2015 #21
Just because some women can't doesn't mean they all can't. threethirteen Sep 2015 #22
Not if the result is to downgrade the fighting capacity of the Marine infantry. Yo_Mama Sep 2015 #27
My hunch, though, is that Sec. Mabus thinks that the Marine study was launched with the TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #11
Fine. Disband the Marine Corps mwrguy Sep 2015 #3
^This!^ SoapBox Sep 2015 #6
Giving them a different name doesnt change their mission. And they're part of the Navy. 7962 Sep 2015 #8
Why? Did you know there are credible studies that explain why the Marines are considering this path? StrongBad Sep 2015 #9
I don't think the Army wants ship borne security and amphibious operations... EX500rider Sep 2015 #10
Ha! Dyedinthewoolliberal Sep 2015 #20
They are welcome to ASK for whatever they wish bluestateguy Sep 2015 #13
If you can do the job, gender shouldn't matter. uppityperson Sep 2015 #15
but if they can not do the job? oneshooter Sep 2015 #16
If someone cannot do their job, they should not have that job. Gender doesn't matter. uppityperson Sep 2015 #18
The proof, as they say, is in the pudding. oneshooter Sep 2015 #19
Someone's gonna be retiring soon. Or backing and retracting. MADem Sep 2015 #17
merit shows women should not be in combat except those with proven skills on par with men Demonaut Sep 2015 #25
Jobs should be based on merit. Testing should not be biased/loaded/weighted. MADem Sep 2015 #26
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