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49. And when companies have to raise prices

Sat Oct 3, 2015, 07:09 PM

Oct 2015

because of theft, you can't really complain. Or when companies are losing money, and have to lay people off.
And this guy wasn't in any kind of crisis. He wasn't stealing food to take care of his family. He was stealing scissors. He wanted something for nothing.

The theft prevention guys used excessive force, and they shouldn't have touched him, but I'm having a difficult time working up any sympathy for him. And you're vastly overplaying it with this "corporate edict" stuff. He stole something, he was caught. He refused to be detained by people who's job it is to protect the assets of this company. They were going to do it right and call the police.

Quick stat from Google:

It is estimated that shoplifting occurs 330 - 440 million times per year at a loss of $10-$13 billion dollars. Nationwide, that equates to 1.0-1.2 million shoplift incidents everyday at a loss rate of $19,000-$25,300 dollars stolen per minute.

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Shoplifter who suffered skull fractures, brain damage wins $750,000 in lawsuit against store [View all] Omaha Steve Oct 2015 OP

Amazing - and more fodder for those who argue for WestSeattle2 Oct 2015 #1

We stopped cutting off the hands of thieves as a civilized people a long time ago. Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #2

So the theft prevention officer can administer punishment? yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #3

My response sounds like common sense, not right wing. Go play. WestSeattle2 Oct 2015 #4

Actually, I would call it least common denominator sense. salib Oct 2015 #9

Where in the post did WestSeattle2 say it was ok for them to beat the guy? cstanleytech Oct 2015 #18

Tort reform is part of the billionaire and corporate agenda tk2kewl Oct 2015 #24

I might be ok with Tort reform if it was capped at a percentage of net worth of a company - of MillennialDem Oct 2015 #69

I agree a % of gross income before taxes is how it should and same for things like traffic tickets cstanleytech Oct 2015 #86

Not at all common sense yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #15

No, they didnt get off cheap but I dont he should have gotten that much money. cstanleytech Oct 2015 #19

Absolutely unacceptable. Their employee destroyed his quality of life. closeupready Oct 2015 #22

Again, we don't know what happened christx30 Oct 2015 #23

According to the article. He was outside the store. He put his hands to his side. LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #29

Apparently there was a trial, so we do know what happened. blackspade Oct 2015 #55

In that case, I'd very much support granting him $1 WestSeattle2 Oct 2015 #30

So what. closeupready Oct 2015 #32

If you don't care, why did you respond? WestSeattle2 Oct 2015 #44

He didn't care about your post and was giving you a head's up. greiner3 Oct 2015 #50

I read it as telling you it doesn't matter what you think because you can't do fuck-all about it. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #91

I would venture that he fucked his own life when he thought it would be ok to shoplift. cstanleytech Oct 2015 #39

so stealing 2 pairs of mini scissors worth <$10 total merits skull fractures and brain damage azurnoir Oct 2015 #20

Nothing like instant justice to curb crime. I don't see any reason not to A Simple Game Oct 2015 #31

While I agree that the loss prevention officer (LPO) christx30 Oct 2015 #7

Well said. WestSeattle2 Oct 2015 #8

I don't think we need to stop property crime this way. If I see a guy stealing a pair of scissors, Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #12

I think someone hired to catch shoplifters is going to have to do more than that. thesquanderer Oct 2015 #16

Oh wow. Did you share that belief during the police yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #17

LIke I said, it doesn't matter what was being stolen. christx30 Oct 2015 #21

According to ShopCo, GGJohn Oct 2015 #36

I don't understand what you are saying, would you please clarify? Thank you uppityperson Oct 2015 #5

My statement could not possibly be any clearer. WestSeattle2 Oct 2015 #6

Yes, it could. That is why I asked. uppityperson Oct 2015 #10

So you're not shaming the thief. No, of course not. WestSeattle2 Oct 2015 #26

So you're ok with the injuries inflicted upon this man by 2 thugs? eom. GGJohn Oct 2015 #37

I will not lose one minute of sleep over this thief's predicament. I WestSeattle2 Oct 2015 #40

Sure you're on the correct website? GGJohn Oct 2015 #42

There is an ignore button. I suggest you use it. WestSeattle2 Oct 2015 #43

Sorry, you don't get off that easily. GGJohn Oct 2015 #52

And who exactly are you to question anyone's "bona fides"? WestSeattle2 Oct 2015 #58

Hardly, GGJohn Oct 2015 #68

Then we'll agree to disagree. WestSeattle2 Oct 2015 #70

Well, I'll agree that you're a heartless human being with no soul. eom. GGJohn Oct 2015 #72

I have plenty of heart, even compassion and empathy - for most humans. WestSeattle2 Oct 2015 #73

For some reason, I doubt that. eom. GGJohn Oct 2015 #74

I'm sure you do. Closed minds simply see what they wish to see. WestSeattle2 Oct 2015 #75

Right back atcha. eom. GGJohn Oct 2015 #76

I'm With You ProfessorGAC Oct 2015 #95

FYI, there is no such thing as a "soul" it's an abstract from mythology billions believe in snooper2 Oct 2015 #96

That's a pretty ugly comment. blackspade Oct 2015 #56

I would submit that there is a difference between stealing WestSeattle2 Oct 2015 #60

you are fine with a security guard not following protocol but brain damaging someone for shoplifting uppityperson Oct 2015 #61

No, jaywalkers aren't thieves. WestSeattle2 Oct 2015 #63

jaywalkers are law breakers, same as shoplifters. uppityperson Oct 2015 #64

Oh I never said it was peachy, I've said I have no sympathy WestSeattle2 Oct 2015 #65

Yes, you did. And of course I've sympathy, like the jury did, for someone who was uppityperson Oct 2015 #66

The quote you're regurgitating simply stated a total lack of WestSeattle2 Oct 2015 #67

Thank you for confirming so clearly you lack any sympathy for someone getting their skull fx and uppityperson Oct 2015 #81

I am shaming someone for using excessive force in a minor shoplifting incident. uppityperson Oct 2015 #59

He is saying the guy deserved what he got... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2015 #47

Just because he is a thief doesn't excuse the excessive force. blackspade Oct 2015 #14

I have absolutely no sympathy for thieves. I don't care whether WestSeattle2 Oct 2015 #27

Fuck that gopiscrap Oct 2015 #45

He paid a $50 fine for the shoplifting. christx30 Oct 2015 #53

He paid a fine for shoplifting. Guilty. WestSeattle2 Oct 2015 #57

Haven't had a hide in a while, so what the hell... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2015 #48

Way. uppityperson Oct 2015 #62

+10000. GGJohn Oct 2015 #71

I generally fly under the radar... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2015 #77

Well, I'm sure it was alerted on and it was left to stand. eom. GGJohn Oct 2015 #78

I thought we got PMs awoke_in_2003 Oct 2015 #79

Only if you're the alerter or a juror. GGJohn Oct 2015 #80

Yup. Thank you. closeupready Oct 2015 #82

+ another 1. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #90

Excessive force by the authorities is not 'bad karma' blackspade Oct 2015 #54

your compassion and human decencyare overwhelming. marym625 Oct 2015 #92

"He's a thief." electricray Oct 2015 #25

He's a thief who miscalculated and lost. WestSeattle2 Oct 2015 #28

Because plaintiffs who win actually lose, in WestSeattle2's world. closeupready Oct 2015 #33

Wow!!! GGJohn Oct 2015 #38

I totally agree gopiscrap Oct 2015 #46

And when companies have to raise prices christx30 Oct 2015 #49

So would your opinion be different if he was stealing food? electricray Oct 2015 #87

Shrinkage. When I worked retail, there was a reconciliation process when the 1monster Oct 2015 #88

So he deserved the severe injuries that were inflicted on him? GGJohn Oct 2015 #34

He wasn't detained until the cops came, he was assaulted Warpy Oct 2015 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author BigDemVoter Oct 2015 #85

You sound like the tea partiers on my local news site. They would derrive the same sociopathic trillion Oct 2015 #94

Wow! That is overkill for a pair of scissors gort Oct 2015 #11

Gort - best post ! ciaobaby Oct 2015 #13

gort for the win!.... nt Blasphemer Oct 2015 #41

Good. But I wish he'd gotten more. CharlotteVale Oct 2015 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author BigDemVoter Oct 2015 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author BigDemVoter Oct 2015 #84

Welcome to Charles Dickens' America. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #89

Good. Being a thief does not give anyone the right to completely brutalize him. trillion Oct 2015 #93

kick Liberal_in_LA Oct 2015 #97