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Snowden: I'd Go to Prison to Return to US [View all] bemildred Oct 2015 OP

A US prison is where he belongs Renew Deal Oct 2015 #1

No, Edward Snowden is a hero who informed the public Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #4

Snowden told the BBC that he'd "volunteered to go to prison with the government many times," Renew Deal Oct 2015 #23

Snowden isn't volunteering to go to prison because he feels guilty. Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #88

He also released classified information about perfectly legal foreign intelligence operations. nt Adrahil Oct 2015 #36

What a coincidence, so did the NSA to private contractors cprise Oct 2015 #134

Not an excuse.... Adrahil Oct 2015 #135

Keep peddling for your dream world of 1984 LiberalLovinLug Oct 2015 #142

The press is the Fourth Estate cprise Oct 2015 #172

The Press has certain protections.... Adrahil Oct 2015 #174

I think you're stretching the meaning of government legitimacy cprise Oct 2015 #176

Why do you keep ignoring the issue? Adrahil Oct 2015 #177

"The issue" LOL cprise Oct 2015 #182

general betrayus ring a bell? n/t wildbilln864 Oct 2015 #165

Yup. And my opinion, he got off light. nt Adrahil Oct 2015 #173

Snowden is NOT a hero. Galraedia Oct 2015 #67

ya damn right!! statues erected to this hero, & Assange & Manning Rose77 Oct 2015 #81

Those of us who were paying attention knew that in the late 70s / early 80s FrodosPet Oct 2015 #183

Why? Because you say? Whistle blowers deserve protections. harun Oct 2015 #7

If he's looking for a "jury of his peers", he might want to stay where he is. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #13

Yeah, Americans are never wrong about anything. Hissyspit Oct 2015 #22

survey done in April...nt grasswire Oct 2015 #45

Are you suggesting that attitudes have changed? Link? Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #46

I bet his approval number would be far higher if he had limited what he released to only cstanleytech Oct 2015 #57

That certainly shifted the needle from concerned whistle-blower to rat traitor. branford Oct 2015 #60

Agreed. That's always been my problem with Snowden brush Oct 2015 #64

I look forward to a trial that will be remembered for decades wordpix Oct 2015 #73

You are going to have a long wait though as I doubt any sincerity on his part cstanleytech Oct 2015 #85

+1 davidpdx Oct 2015 #132

+1 Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #131

Surprise surprise surprise! LiberalLovinLug Oct 2015 #143

No one is disputing his popularity abroad. In fact that's the title of the article. Duh! Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #148

As if you give a hoot about "how that helps him in the country he wants to return to" LiberalLovinLug Oct 2015 #151

I could give a shit about Edward Snowden, his accolytes, or his puppeteers. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #152

Oh good answer! LiberalLovinLug Oct 2015 #154

Glad I could help! Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #158

No, because he says Renew Deal Oct 2015 #24

Whistle-blowers do indeed deserve protection. But whistle blowers use a legal path. Such paths 24601 Oct 2015 #92

"Whistle-blowers do indeed deserve protection. But whistle blowers use a legal path. Such paths" blackspade Oct 2015 #108

So who is in prison for going to the IG? 24601 Oct 2015 #128

Not really. Hissyspit Oct 2015 #20

I guess he has found out living in another country isn't as cheery yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #52

Especially living under Putin's thumb davidpdx Oct 2015 #133

He's a hero to me. 840high Oct 2015 #68

me too questionseverything Oct 2015 #127

No, a court of law is where he belongs. blackspade Oct 2015 #106

after Cheney, W, Rummy and Rice get their day in court! n/t wildbilln864 Oct 2015 #166

Says the Hillary/Bush crown Reter Oct 2015 #112

Crown? Renew Deal Oct 2015 #116

Lol, I meant crowd, but it spell-corrected to crown Reter Oct 2015 #137

What? You didn't like the Russians? leftofcool Oct 2015 #2

Edward Snowden gave up a great life with Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #5

We don't know what he planned. Just what he did. n/t pnwmom Oct 2015 #10

...and what was that, in your opinion? nt grasswire Oct 2015 #14

He took planes first to Hong Kong and then to Russia, pnwmom Oct 2015 #30

Thank You. "We don't know what he planned". We really have no idea. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #17

obvious is obvious LiberalLovinLug Oct 2015 #145

!!! Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #150

Uh.....yeah LiberalLovinLug Oct 2015 #153

Well, let's just celebrate that he's free of that infamous brutal tyrant, Barack Obama. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #157

Once again you show such concern for Edwards well being LiberalLovinLug Oct 2015 #160

Nobody gives a shit. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #161

WRONG! n/t wildbilln864 Oct 2015 #167

What was his reason to go to Russia in the first place? George II Oct 2015 #40

I'll be happy to tell you. senz Oct 2015 #47

well now he's had an adventure & wants to come back & I say welcome wordpix Oct 2015 #75

I've pointed this out in the past - Quito Ecuador is on the west coast of South America......... George II Oct 2015 #77

It looks like his situation was too complicated for straight flights. senz Oct 2015 #104

Who are these "rabid rightwingers" on DU that you're referring to. I haven't come across any. George II Oct 2015 #107

Oh, just look downthread a ways. You might see a few. senz Oct 2015 #113

Guess I'm missing them. Who might they be? George II Oct 2015 #120

Hey, they might be the type of person senz Oct 2015 #122

NAILED IT! thanks. n/t wildbilln864 Oct 2015 #168

Wait a minute, Darb Oct 2015 #178

I like her, Darb. Nice ducky in your avatar. nt senz Oct 2015 #181

Indeed, he didn't originally plan to go to Russia. branford Oct 2015 #69

Hong kong is quite different from China proper. senz Oct 2015 #100

Why would he "like" the Russians? senz Oct 2015 #42

Surprised by this. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #3

Me too. Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #6

authoritarians can't beat up on Snowden any more grasswire Oct 2015 #8

It is puzzling. bemildred Oct 2015 #11

The gov't didn't say anything about renditioning him to another country to be tortured. OnyxCollie Oct 2015 #44

Where's the trust? bemildred Oct 2015 #48

Obama made it clear when he came in, no more torture wordpix Oct 2015 #76

That's not what's puzzling. bemildred Oct 2015 #80

our gov. no doubt believes Snowden is in bad enough shape wordpix Oct 2015 #89

No more torture. OnyxCollie Oct 2015 #115

excellent points,thanks! wildbilln864 Oct 2015 #170

Yeah, i'M GLAD THEY'RE MAKING AN EXCEPTION FOR HIM. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #138

No one has a right to a plea deal. branford Oct 2015 #15

^^^^ THIS ^^^^ Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #18

everyone has the right to seek a plea deal. grasswire Oct 2015 #51

He may indeed ask for anything, but the government need not agree. branford Oct 2015 #65

Actually, no. He doesn't have the right to seek a plea deal. nt msanthrope Oct 2015 #123

He does not have a right to a plea deal. in fact he has no rights under the law currently. msanthrope Oct 2015 #34

very interesting - however, he IS an American citizen willing to face his legal wordpix Oct 2015 #79

Umm, his right? Adrahil Oct 2015 #38

"where he is free to communicate with the world?" dixiegrrrrl Oct 2015 #43

Ellsberg was arrested and tried. OilemFirchen Oct 2015 #61

Daniel Ellsberg writes that Snowden wouldn't get a fair trial. Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #90

Thats Snowdens own fault since he has confessed that he leaked the information and yes cstanleytech Oct 2015 #130

A coward? LiberalLovinLug Oct 2015 #156

Yes. Coward. OilemFirchen Oct 2015 #159

Snowden lives in a different time LiberalLovinLug Oct 2015 #162

Yeah, yeah. I read it the first time. OilemFirchen Oct 2015 #163

Oh I see, it is more in YOUR purview than Ellsberg. LiberalLovinLug Oct 2015 #164

My purview is irrelevant. OilemFirchen Oct 2015 #169

I'm guessing December 2016 is when this happens, nt geek tragedy Oct 2015 #9

That's going to be a real circus. nt bemildred Oct 2015 #12

He can stream baseball through MLB.com alcibiades_mystery Oct 2015 #16

He should be welcomed home as a hero.... raindaddy Oct 2015 #19

Did I stumble into Free Republic by mistake? Dopers_Greed Oct 2015 #21

You'd be surprised Demeter Oct 2015 #25

and guess who they are all supporters of in the upcoming election? m-lekktor Oct 2015 #26

None whatsoever, in truth. Demeter Oct 2015 #27

Indeed. senz Oct 2015 #126

you might want to self-delete uhnope Oct 2015 #28

This survived a jury 3-4. OilemFirchen Oct 2015 #66

Well, you will note he didn't mention anybody in particular. bemildred Oct 2015 #117

Nope. The Snowden worship starts at Freak Republic & filters through here for shits & giggles. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #54

I agree Bradical79 Oct 2015 #63

Nah, some of us actually read what he leaked jeff47 Oct 2015 #94

Well played sir, Well played. blackspade Oct 2015 #110

Both sad and perplexing. Owl Oct 2015 #118

That article has a typo; let me fix it: Demeter Oct 2015 #29

Sanders would pain him Bloofer Oct 2015 #31

I just don't believe him. MADem Oct 2015 #32

I wonder if he realizes how badly Greenwald betrayed him. nt msanthrope Oct 2015 #37

He might be starting to grab a clue...we haven't heard much from his old pal, lately. MADem Oct 2015 #39

Greenwald made out very well. He played Snowden almost as badly as Putin did brush Oct 2015 #56

Some people's Greenwald obsessions are showing n/t Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #124

Here's something Snowden has that the US gov wants: wordpix Oct 2015 #86

He knows nothing about them. His "lawyer" is a former KGB upper echelon operative who is a friend MADem Oct 2015 #119

I'm grateful to Edward Snowden for having revealed the unAmerican, unsonstitutional JDPriestly Oct 2015 #33

Nietzsche says it for me: grasswire Oct 2015 #50

+1000 senz Oct 2015 #58

Nietzsche also said my other favorite quote grasswire Oct 2015 #59

lol, that's so sweet. senz Oct 2015 #71

Nietzsche is widely misunderstood. plus5mace Oct 2015 #121

Now Snowden must face the music brush Oct 2015 #72

give some examples & a link wordpix Oct 2015 #97

wonderful! wordpix Oct 2015 #96

good quote wordpix Oct 2015 #95

...+1 840high Oct 2015 #129

thank you. other nations are helping him Rose77 Oct 2015 #87

Apparently, not on DU... freebrew Oct 2015 #139

Revealed? I think you knew. Darb Oct 2015 #179

I did not realize the lawless extent of it until I saw the FISA court's order to Verizon. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #180

Sounds like somebody's getting tired of Putinland. nt onehandle Oct 2015 #35

There's an embargo. Beet and potato soup for you, comrade~no PRINGLES~no HOT POCKETS!!! nt MADem Oct 2015 #41

I hope he doesn't come back because he would not stand a chance here. senz Oct 2015 #49

Yes, he shouldn't return to a trial. Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #105

When is Snowden's 15-minutes of fame up? Galraedia Oct 2015 #53

^^^^ THIS ^^^^ Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #55

Oh please, he has as much of a chance of being tortured as I do of winning the powerball. cstanleytech Oct 2015 #62

Solitary is torture. Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #93

Fine then get an agreement that there will be no solitary as long as he obeys the rules. cstanleytech Oct 2015 #98

Prison? Mon dieu! OilemFirchen Oct 2015 #70

I think he thought he knew more than he did brush Oct 2015 #74

To be clear: OilemFirchen Oct 2015 #78

He means the Internet Protocol(IP), he doesn't know what he is talking about. bemildred Oct 2015 #83

Oh, sorry. brush Oct 2015 #84

With the evidence they have against him, yes he would. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #82

Snowden has no bargaining leverage goldent Oct 2015 #91

he has some knowledge of Russia/China officialdom now wordpix Oct 2015 #99

Edward Snowden became a hero to some Americans and not others. Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #102

i am pretty surprised restorefreedom Oct 2015 #114

There is support for his domestic spying revelations but not for revealing . . . brush Oct 2015 #140

as a fan of transparency restorefreedom Oct 2015 #144

Spying is probably the world's second oldest profession brush Oct 2015 #147

he is young restorefreedom Oct 2015 #149

Nope. No leverage at all. This government doesn't care about him or any use it could make of him. ancianita Oct 2015 #111

After going to an elightened and feedom loving Russia led by Putin, why would he want to come back. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #101

I guess no one gives a crap any more Eddie. Historic NY Oct 2015 #103

He's making a big mistake to trust this government to keep its end of any plea deal. The U.S. ancianita Oct 2015 #109

He hasnt made any deal ancianita and I doubt he will, this sounds like yet cstanleytech Oct 2015 #125

No he wouldn't. joshcryer Oct 2015 #136

Lol, well this certainly has thrown the anti-Snowden crowd for a loop! riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #141

Bull fuckin' shit Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #146

Taking a page from Julian treestar Oct 2015 #155

LOL... Snowy must not have anymore juicy documents to sell. DCBob Oct 2015 #171

heres to the crazy ones Rose77 Oct 2015 #175