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85. You are going to have a long wait though as I doubt any sincerity on his part

Mon Oct 5, 2015, 08:08 PM

Oct 2015

over turning himself in to US authorities.
In fact it would not surprise me in the least if we were to learn that his grandstanding is part of the deal with the Russian government for allowing him to stay.

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Snowden: I'd Go to Prison to Return to US [View all] bemildred Oct 2015 OP

A US prison is where he belongs Renew Deal Oct 2015 #1

No, Edward Snowden is a hero who informed the public Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #4

Snowden told the BBC that he'd "volunteered to go to prison with the government many times," Renew Deal Oct 2015 #23

Snowden isn't volunteering to go to prison because he feels guilty. Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #88

He also released classified information about perfectly legal foreign intelligence operations. nt Adrahil Oct 2015 #36

What a coincidence, so did the NSA to private contractors cprise Oct 2015 #134

Not an excuse.... Adrahil Oct 2015 #135

Keep peddling for your dream world of 1984 LiberalLovinLug Oct 2015 #142

The press is the Fourth Estate cprise Oct 2015 #172

The Press has certain protections.... Adrahil Oct 2015 #174

I think you're stretching the meaning of government legitimacy cprise Oct 2015 #176

Why do you keep ignoring the issue? Adrahil Oct 2015 #177

"The issue" LOL cprise Oct 2015 #182

general betrayus ring a bell? n/t wildbilln864 Oct 2015 #165

Yup. And my opinion, he got off light. nt Adrahil Oct 2015 #173

Snowden is NOT a hero. Galraedia Oct 2015 #67

ya damn right!! statues erected to this hero, & Assange & Manning Rose77 Oct 2015 #81

Those of us who were paying attention knew that in the late 70s / early 80s FrodosPet Oct 2015 #183

Why? Because you say? Whistle blowers deserve protections. harun Oct 2015 #7

If he's looking for a "jury of his peers", he might want to stay where he is. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #13

Yeah, Americans are never wrong about anything. Hissyspit Oct 2015 #22

survey done in April...nt grasswire Oct 2015 #45

Are you suggesting that attitudes have changed? Link? Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #46

I bet his approval number would be far higher if he had limited what he released to only cstanleytech Oct 2015 #57

That certainly shifted the needle from concerned whistle-blower to rat traitor. branford Oct 2015 #60

Agreed. That's always been my problem with Snowden brush Oct 2015 #64

I look forward to a trial that will be remembered for decades wordpix Oct 2015 #73

You are going to have a long wait though as I doubt any sincerity on his part cstanleytech Oct 2015 #85

+1 davidpdx Oct 2015 #132

+1 Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #131

Surprise surprise surprise! LiberalLovinLug Oct 2015 #143

No one is disputing his popularity abroad. In fact that's the title of the article. Duh! Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #148

As if you give a hoot about "how that helps him in the country he wants to return to" LiberalLovinLug Oct 2015 #151

I could give a shit about Edward Snowden, his accolytes, or his puppeteers. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #152

Oh good answer! LiberalLovinLug Oct 2015 #154

Glad I could help! Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #158

No, because he says Renew Deal Oct 2015 #24

Whistle-blowers do indeed deserve protection. But whistle blowers use a legal path. Such paths 24601 Oct 2015 #92

"Whistle-blowers do indeed deserve protection. But whistle blowers use a legal path. Such paths" blackspade Oct 2015 #108

So who is in prison for going to the IG? 24601 Oct 2015 #128

Not really. Hissyspit Oct 2015 #20

I guess he has found out living in another country isn't as cheery yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #52

Especially living under Putin's thumb davidpdx Oct 2015 #133

He's a hero to me. 840high Oct 2015 #68

me too questionseverything Oct 2015 #127

No, a court of law is where he belongs. blackspade Oct 2015 #106

after Cheney, W, Rummy and Rice get their day in court! n/t wildbilln864 Oct 2015 #166

Says the Hillary/Bush crown Reter Oct 2015 #112

Crown? Renew Deal Oct 2015 #116

Lol, I meant crowd, but it spell-corrected to crown Reter Oct 2015 #137

What? You didn't like the Russians? leftofcool Oct 2015 #2

Edward Snowden gave up a great life with Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #5

We don't know what he planned. Just what he did. n/t pnwmom Oct 2015 #10

...and what was that, in your opinion? nt grasswire Oct 2015 #14

He took planes first to Hong Kong and then to Russia, pnwmom Oct 2015 #30

Thank You. "We don't know what he planned". We really have no idea. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #17

obvious is obvious LiberalLovinLug Oct 2015 #145

!!! Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #150

Uh.....yeah LiberalLovinLug Oct 2015 #153

Well, let's just celebrate that he's free of that infamous brutal tyrant, Barack Obama. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #157

Once again you show such concern for Edwards well being LiberalLovinLug Oct 2015 #160

Nobody gives a shit. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #161

WRONG! n/t wildbilln864 Oct 2015 #167

What was his reason to go to Russia in the first place? George II Oct 2015 #40

I'll be happy to tell you. senz Oct 2015 #47

well now he's had an adventure & wants to come back & I say welcome wordpix Oct 2015 #75

I've pointed this out in the past - Quito Ecuador is on the west coast of South America......... George II Oct 2015 #77

It looks like his situation was too complicated for straight flights. senz Oct 2015 #104

Who are these "rabid rightwingers" on DU that you're referring to. I haven't come across any. George II Oct 2015 #107

Oh, just look downthread a ways. You might see a few. senz Oct 2015 #113

Guess I'm missing them. Who might they be? George II Oct 2015 #120

Hey, they might be the type of person senz Oct 2015 #122

NAILED IT! thanks. n/t wildbilln864 Oct 2015 #168

Wait a minute, Darb Oct 2015 #178

I like her, Darb. Nice ducky in your avatar. nt senz Oct 2015 #181

Indeed, he didn't originally plan to go to Russia. branford Oct 2015 #69

Hong kong is quite different from China proper. senz Oct 2015 #100

Why would he "like" the Russians? senz Oct 2015 #42

Surprised by this. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #3

Me too. Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #6

authoritarians can't beat up on Snowden any more grasswire Oct 2015 #8

It is puzzling. bemildred Oct 2015 #11

The gov't didn't say anything about renditioning him to another country to be tortured. OnyxCollie Oct 2015 #44

Where's the trust? bemildred Oct 2015 #48

Obama made it clear when he came in, no more torture wordpix Oct 2015 #76

That's not what's puzzling. bemildred Oct 2015 #80

our gov. no doubt believes Snowden is in bad enough shape wordpix Oct 2015 #89

No more torture. OnyxCollie Oct 2015 #115

excellent points,thanks! wildbilln864 Oct 2015 #170

Yeah, i'M GLAD THEY'RE MAKING AN EXCEPTION FOR HIM. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #138

No one has a right to a plea deal. branford Oct 2015 #15

^^^^ THIS ^^^^ Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #18

everyone has the right to seek a plea deal. grasswire Oct 2015 #51

He may indeed ask for anything, but the government need not agree. branford Oct 2015 #65

Actually, no. He doesn't have the right to seek a plea deal. nt msanthrope Oct 2015 #123

He does not have a right to a plea deal. in fact he has no rights under the law currently. msanthrope Oct 2015 #34

very interesting - however, he IS an American citizen willing to face his legal wordpix Oct 2015 #79

Umm, his right? Adrahil Oct 2015 #38

"where he is free to communicate with the world?" dixiegrrrrl Oct 2015 #43

Ellsberg was arrested and tried. OilemFirchen Oct 2015 #61

Daniel Ellsberg writes that Snowden wouldn't get a fair trial. Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #90

Thats Snowdens own fault since he has confessed that he leaked the information and yes cstanleytech Oct 2015 #130

A coward? LiberalLovinLug Oct 2015 #156

Yes. Coward. OilemFirchen Oct 2015 #159

Snowden lives in a different time LiberalLovinLug Oct 2015 #162

Yeah, yeah. I read it the first time. OilemFirchen Oct 2015 #163

Oh I see, it is more in YOUR purview than Ellsberg. LiberalLovinLug Oct 2015 #164

My purview is irrelevant. OilemFirchen Oct 2015 #169

I'm guessing December 2016 is when this happens, nt geek tragedy Oct 2015 #9

That's going to be a real circus. nt bemildred Oct 2015 #12

He can stream baseball through MLB.com alcibiades_mystery Oct 2015 #16

He should be welcomed home as a hero.... raindaddy Oct 2015 #19

Did I stumble into Free Republic by mistake? Dopers_Greed Oct 2015 #21

You'd be surprised Demeter Oct 2015 #25

and guess who they are all supporters of in the upcoming election? m-lekktor Oct 2015 #26

None whatsoever, in truth. Demeter Oct 2015 #27

Indeed. senz Oct 2015 #126

you might want to self-delete uhnope Oct 2015 #28

This survived a jury 3-4. OilemFirchen Oct 2015 #66

Well, you will note he didn't mention anybody in particular. bemildred Oct 2015 #117

Nope. The Snowden worship starts at Freak Republic & filters through here for shits & giggles. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #54

I agree Bradical79 Oct 2015 #63

Nah, some of us actually read what he leaked jeff47 Oct 2015 #94

Well played sir, Well played. blackspade Oct 2015 #110

Both sad and perplexing. Owl Oct 2015 #118

That article has a typo; let me fix it: Demeter Oct 2015 #29

Sanders would pain him Bloofer Oct 2015 #31

I just don't believe him. MADem Oct 2015 #32

I wonder if he realizes how badly Greenwald betrayed him. nt msanthrope Oct 2015 #37

He might be starting to grab a clue...we haven't heard much from his old pal, lately. MADem Oct 2015 #39

Greenwald made out very well. He played Snowden almost as badly as Putin did brush Oct 2015 #56

Some people's Greenwald obsessions are showing n/t Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #124

Here's something Snowden has that the US gov wants: wordpix Oct 2015 #86

He knows nothing about them. His "lawyer" is a former KGB upper echelon operative who is a friend MADem Oct 2015 #119

I'm grateful to Edward Snowden for having revealed the unAmerican, unsonstitutional JDPriestly Oct 2015 #33

Nietzsche says it for me: grasswire Oct 2015 #50

+1000 senz Oct 2015 #58

Nietzsche also said my other favorite quote grasswire Oct 2015 #59

lol, that's so sweet. senz Oct 2015 #71

Nietzsche is widely misunderstood. plus5mace Oct 2015 #121

Now Snowden must face the music brush Oct 2015 #72

give some examples & a link wordpix Oct 2015 #97

wonderful! wordpix Oct 2015 #96

good quote wordpix Oct 2015 #95

...+1 840high Oct 2015 #129

thank you. other nations are helping him Rose77 Oct 2015 #87

Apparently, not on DU... freebrew Oct 2015 #139

Revealed? I think you knew. Darb Oct 2015 #179

I did not realize the lawless extent of it until I saw the FISA court's order to Verizon. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #180

Sounds like somebody's getting tired of Putinland. nt onehandle Oct 2015 #35

There's an embargo. Beet and potato soup for you, comrade~no PRINGLES~no HOT POCKETS!!! nt MADem Oct 2015 #41

I hope he doesn't come back because he would not stand a chance here. senz Oct 2015 #49

Yes, he shouldn't return to a trial. Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #105

When is Snowden's 15-minutes of fame up? Galraedia Oct 2015 #53

^^^^ THIS ^^^^ Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #55

Oh please, he has as much of a chance of being tortured as I do of winning the powerball. cstanleytech Oct 2015 #62

Solitary is torture. Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #93

Fine then get an agreement that there will be no solitary as long as he obeys the rules. cstanleytech Oct 2015 #98

Prison? Mon dieu! OilemFirchen Oct 2015 #70

I think he thought he knew more than he did brush Oct 2015 #74

To be clear: OilemFirchen Oct 2015 #78

He means the Internet Protocol(IP), he doesn't know what he is talking about. bemildred Oct 2015 #83

Oh, sorry. brush Oct 2015 #84

With the evidence they have against him, yes he would. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #82

Snowden has no bargaining leverage goldent Oct 2015 #91

he has some knowledge of Russia/China officialdom now wordpix Oct 2015 #99

Edward Snowden became a hero to some Americans and not others. Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #102

i am pretty surprised restorefreedom Oct 2015 #114

There is support for his domestic spying revelations but not for revealing . . . brush Oct 2015 #140

as a fan of transparency restorefreedom Oct 2015 #144

Spying is probably the world's second oldest profession brush Oct 2015 #147

he is young restorefreedom Oct 2015 #149

Nope. No leverage at all. This government doesn't care about him or any use it could make of him. ancianita Oct 2015 #111

After going to an elightened and feedom loving Russia led by Putin, why would he want to come back. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #101

I guess no one gives a crap any more Eddie. Historic NY Oct 2015 #103

He's making a big mistake to trust this government to keep its end of any plea deal. The U.S. ancianita Oct 2015 #109

He hasnt made any deal ancianita and I doubt he will, this sounds like yet cstanleytech Oct 2015 #125

No he wouldn't. joshcryer Oct 2015 #136

Lol, well this certainly has thrown the anti-Snowden crowd for a loop! riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #141

Bull fuckin' shit Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #146

Taking a page from Julian treestar Oct 2015 #155

LOL... Snowy must not have anymore juicy documents to sell. DCBob Oct 2015 #171

heres to the crazy ones Rose77 Oct 2015 #175