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28. "Democratic" is only in quotes. Our President is a Rockefeller Republican.

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Tue Oct 6, 2015, 03:33 PM

Oct 2015

Agreeable on some social issues. But a true corporatist, through and through.

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TPP signed: the �biggest global threat to the internet� agreed [View all] Turborama Oct 2015 OP

Fear mongering the uninformed. yallerdawg Oct 2015 #1

As someone who personally had the DMCA's Kelvin Mace Oct 2015 #3

If I post this according to this "DEAL" what happens........it has now been signed................. turbinetree Oct 2015 #2

So many people are against this, yet the agreement is still being pushed through by fasttense Oct 2015 #4

"Democratic" is only in quotes. Our President is a Rockefeller Republican. villager Oct 2015 #28

The figures I see are that most Democrats are for it, in principle, while most republicans oppose it pampango Oct 2015 #45

Yes I was looking at the latest polls and unfortunately they are mostly about fast track fasttense Oct 2015 #49

Congress still has to ratify it. Xithras Oct 2015 #5

Me too. And, after all, this is a tactic that Obama himself just advocated for - djean111 Oct 2015 #14

We need international protests everywhere. That is our one hope of bringing it down. ZM90 Oct 2015 #6

Y'all do know TPP is not "signed"? yallerdawg Oct 2015 #7

We still don't have it in front of us, it has been highly secret thus far, corporate Lobbiests Dustlawyer Oct 2015 #10

We don't 'trust' anything. yallerdawg Oct 2015 #11

I believe it will pass, too much $$$$ behind it. Dustlawyer Oct 2015 #13

yup. Phlem Oct 2015 #17

Are you defending even those provisions that will not be published until five years after it is Vincardog Oct 2015 #21

You have a copy of the finalized document already? yallerdawg Oct 2015 #24

So you are defending them because they are secret. OK you are acting like a corporate shill Vincardog Oct 2015 #27

"Acting like a corporate shill." yallerdawg Oct 2015 #42

So tell me Yallerdawg, irrespective of any other provisions in the agreement, do you favor what this cpompilo Oct 2015 #48

Like I said at Post #1... yallerdawg Oct 2015 #50

Unions, universities, professors, state agriculture agencues, environmental groups, etc., had input. Hoyt Oct 2015 #52

No, no, no, no, no, no, no ot the TPP. It is very simply a corporate coup. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #8

A lot of smaller countries are for this, as well. It's not all about massive corporations. randome Oct 2015 #19

And we give up our right to free speech, to vote on issues of importance to us but that a JDPriestly Oct 2015 #35

Um, the TPP will raise living and safety standards for all these countries. randome Oct 2015 #37

And just wait until a few years from now when this can be branded as the "Democrat's" agreement. jalan48 Oct 2015 #9

Just like the Iraq war vote LiberalLovinLug Oct 2015 #15

I agree. Censorship under the guise of free markets. jalan48 Oct 2015 #16

No to TPP Angry Dragon Oct 2015 #12

I really believed in hope and change and a new era. Unknown Beatle Oct 2015 #18

Yet you fail to specifically mention what you find so reprehensible about the TPP. randome Oct 2015 #20

The investor dispute panels that let the corporate lawyers be judges are unconstitutional crap. The Vincardog Oct 2015 #22

The investor dispute panels that have been in use since the 90s? randome Oct 2015 #25

Right let the corporate parasites recover "expected future profits" denied them by environmental Vincardog Oct 2015 #29

I don't think you get it. randome Oct 2015 #31

I wish it were true. Vincardog Oct 2015 #33

It's an elegant way to fuck over representative government in favor of corporations n/t eridani Oct 2015 #59

In addition to the investor dispute panels, the fact that when we sign these trade agreements, JDPriestly Oct 2015 #36

I didn't think I had to be so specific about any provision of the TPP. Unknown Beatle Oct 2015 #23

Suing other countries only applies in cases of protectionism. randome Oct 2015 #26

Do you have an advance copy of the TPP? How can you know that? Vincardog Oct 2015 #30

No, just my reading and interpretation of what's been said thus far. randome Oct 2015 #32

True it is ridiculous that countries will have to make their laws conform with the ruling of an Vincardog Oct 2015 #34

I do worry about our parks because I understand from a report alleged to be from Wikileaks JDPriestly Oct 2015 #38

I have no idea -none- how the TPP considers states or provinces or whatever. randome Oct 2015 #39

And we will be examining those innards carefully. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #44

No, I don't. Obama does not strike me as that underhanded. randome Oct 2015 #46

Me either, but he is the president. He cannot know everything that goes on at every JDPriestly Oct 2015 #47

I'm betting any amount of money Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #40

Can't believe the amount of people belittling this Corporate Pact d_legendary1 Oct 2015 #41

Don't Democrats insist on facts? yallerdawg Oct 2015 #43

Nope, and a good reason to believe we are doomed. Hoyt Oct 2015 #56

What a load of junk. Hoyt Oct 2015 #51

How many times have you cut and pasted that load of propaganda? Joe Turner Oct 2015 #54

It is scheduled to be released when, and if, Obama signs it. There is no doubt about that. Hoyt Oct 2015 #55

Thanks for proving my point Joe Turner Oct 2015 #57

No it will not be too late. At least you now recognize it will not be years before it is released. Hoyt Oct 2015 #58

TPP = Terrifying Plutocratic Profiteering mhatrw Oct 2015 #53