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In reply to the discussion: This Court Case Could Unshackle Americans From Student Debt [View all]jeff47
(26,549 posts)95. Double digit debt quickly turns into triple digit when you can't pay.
then transfer to a state supported university or a private university that has plenty of financial aid available.
So....beg for money.
Don't major in the liberal arts without getting a teaching certificate unless you plan to go on to a graduate or professional degree.
So while begging for money, you should plan on incurring more debt getting a masters or higher.
As for working your way through, I think you still can, but it means going to school part time, continue living with your parents and doing everything I mentioned in the previous paragraph.
Uh, no. You really can't. Lots of public universities are in the $20k/year range now when you include books and other non-tuition fees, for a full-time student. If you go half-time, it is not half-price. So you end up paying much more while doubling how long it takes to get your degree.
Meanwhile, the McJob you can get while going to school is going to do things like refuse to give you a set schedule. Making it not possible to schedule your classes. And it isn't going to pay enough for you to feed yourself, get to and from that job, and pay for college. And that's assuming you 1) have parents, who 2) have a place for you to live and who 3) can afford for you to live there rent-free for the next 8 to 10 years under your plan.
Are high schools and parents doing a good job advising kids about careers and college? I wonder. Or maybe the kids aren't listening.
No, the main problem is the enormous number of adults who can't understand that getting a degree is not the same as back in their day.
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This is especially true when you consider the involvement of private educational institutes
Major Nikon
Oct 2015
#2
Great post! Damned if we do and if we don't. Strange how they worked this out...
erronis
Oct 2015
#102
I almost stopped reading when he said he was fortunate to have parents that could afford to ...
Hassin Bin Sober
Oct 2015
#134
"why would someone major in English or history without getting a teaching certificate?"
bvar22
Oct 2015
#109
I have found most of your statements to be untrue....at least in my life experience.
bvar22
Oct 2015
#115
You wanna know what's a waste of taxpayer dollars? Paying for diploma mill degrees.
Gormy Cuss
Oct 2015
#139
Exactly. The scenario some speak of here (Don't borrow) might work if Americans were...
BlueJazz
Oct 2015
#25
It's amazing how much foresight and worldly knowledge they expect kids and young adults to have
Maven
Oct 2015
#123
Yes, don't do anything unless you KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.
Hissyspit
Oct 2015
#78
easy to say, until you take out student loans based on gov. statistics that
magical thyme
Oct 2015
#23
True, don't take them out, but that's not help to those already stuck with inescapable debt
Cheese Sandwich
Oct 2015
#28
Well, even lowly public state schools can cost "only" $15,000 - $25,000 a year.
Arugula Latte
Oct 2015
#51
Yep, let's keep our populace dumb with only the rich being able to afford an education.
Live and Learn
Oct 2015
#81
The reason lenders sign off on six figure loans to 18 year olds is that lack of risk.
lumberjack_jeff
Oct 2015
#6
Nobody ever questions how to pay for it when we decide it's time to drop bombs on middle eastern
Ed Suspicious
Oct 2015
#59
Please quit pretending this is not possible. California had free college education until Reagan
Live and Learn
Oct 2015
#84
How to pay for college? With a modest tax on Wall Street speculations. When the banks
appalachiablue
Oct 2015
#55
Three family generations went to college, left with no debt & found good jobs. What happened?
appalachiablue
Oct 2015
#26
That's not out of the realm of possibilities. The growing activist middle class and large
appalachiablue
Oct 2015
#67
Hope there are some good lawyers with a lot of student debt willing to help out!
Dustlawyer
Oct 2015
#32
When I see stronger laws governing businesses I will consider pressing individuals
Scalded Nun
Oct 2015
#33
I know someone who had their wages garnished for ten years and NONE of it went to the loan....
Spitfire of ATJ
Oct 2015
#56