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christx30

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75. But there's a difference between

Sat Oct 10, 2015, 02:48 PM

Oct 2015

a government and a voluntary union of people. In government, the police (and their guns) enforce laws that people disagree with. If the legislature passes laws people disagree with (laws requiring voter ID, or laws against gay marriage or abortion, or against marijuana), you can work to get them changed, or you can break them as long as you are able to get away with it.
But with a collection of private individuals, there is no enforcement arm. Everything is (and should be) voluntary. They can't force you to do a darn thing.

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2 Dietz & Watson employees drive into union picket line [View all] Omaha Steve Oct 2015 OP

well, clamshells Oct 2015 #1

Im not sure driving into people is the right action Travis_0004 Oct 2015 #2

omg! really? vehicular assault is your answer to picket lines? uawchild Oct 2015 #3

Behold the bitter fruits of 30+ years of Reagan-Bushism, where striking KingCharlemagne Oct 2015 #8

Apparently the strikers were blocking access to the facility Pharaoh Oct 2015 #4

Yeah, thats kind of the point, isnt it? Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #35

Well, if people are blocking the entrance sulphurdunn Oct 2015 #5

If you do, you'll be charged with vehicular assault. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #7

Welcome to DU.... I'm sure you've just endeared yourself to most everyone here groundloop Oct 2015 #9

Clamshells won't be here long SCantiGOP Oct 2015 #46

Wow so the damage to the car is more important than the possible injury and/or death to humans??!! LynneSin Oct 2015 #12

If you were an employee you should be on the picket line jcboon Oct 2015 #13

Unless they disagree with the union, christx30 Oct 2015 #16

rats distroy unions, anyone that crosses a picket line is a rat..... juxtaposed Oct 2015 #19

Everyone has the right to their christx30 Oct 2015 #23

Asking the cops to arrest a picketer for assault is fine ... JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2015 #31

Good question. The anti-union posters are probably salaried jwirr Oct 2015 #49

union means all for one and one for all. juxtaposed Oct 2015 #33

Yes they do.... daleanime Oct 2015 #36

True, but... TiberiusB Oct 2015 #38

If they only joined the union christx30 Oct 2015 #43

You anti-union guys could nobly forego all the benefits won in contract negotiations. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #52

And you pro-union guys need to understand christx30 Oct 2015 #59

So, you're going to forego the benefits won in contract negotiations? Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #63

You're welcome to your opinion of me. christx30 Oct 2015 #70

Your job pays you what they do because of a pay standard set by CWA negotiated contracts Teamster Jeff Oct 2015 #73

So you benefit from a union without actually joining one TiberiusB Oct 2015 #77

And that justifies running down pedestrians in violation of direct police orders to use another The Second Stone Oct 2015 #85

I don't think it justifies running down anyone. christx30 Oct 2015 #86

The cops do not have the power to order peaceful protesters to cease walking a legal picket line The Second Stone Oct 2015 #88

It's illegal to block any entrances. christx30 Oct 2015 #93

Nobody is blocking any entrances, pedestrians are walking constantly over the driveway, The Second Stone Oct 2015 #97

If that was the case, the headline would have said christx30 Oct 2015 #98

Read the article, men hit by truck driven The Second Stone Oct 2015 #99

Look homeless negoldie Oct 2015 #92

Two TiberiusB Oct 2015 #96

So you enjoy the benefits of the Union without paying the bills, fucking freeloader. n/t Humanist_Activist Oct 2015 #91

Then go work at a job... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2015 #79

the best way to get me to resent something and work against it is to try to force me to do it passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #90

Ah, not so much... TiberiusB Oct 2015 #74

But there's a difference between christx30 Oct 2015 #75

Scabs NBachers Oct 2015 #50

.. juxtaposed Oct 2015 #51

Now, see, that's the kind of song kids should be learning in elementary school music class. NBachers Oct 2015 #87

POS Teamster Jeff Oct 2015 #41

Scabs is what we used to call them. All of you who think it jwirr Oct 2015 #48

Scab Fairgo Oct 2015 #83

I have yet to meet a Democrat, especially one in the Northeast, that disagrees.... LynneSin Oct 2015 #94

These were Dietz & Watson officials safeinOhio Oct 2015 #25

This. And the antiunion sentiment in this thread makes me want to puke. Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #37

Don't know about this case. Igel Oct 2015 #42

management typically has to work, yes. mhatrw Oct 2015 #56

Not only that but, Turbineguy Oct 2015 #14

rats cross picket lines and rats are the worst thing on this earth. juxtaposed Oct 2015 #17

That doesn't give the employees a license to drive into the strikers meow2u3 Oct 2015 #20

You must be joking. merrily Oct 2015 #22

Hey, I kind of enjoyed Minority Report, too TiberiusB Oct 2015 #26

Actually, that's what a "strike" IS: A work stoppage. TygrBright Oct 2015 #29

Yeah, just a bunch of union thugs, right? LoveIsNow Oct 2015 #30

Your right to go to work doesn't mean you have the OK to run over people with your car to get there Teamster Jeff Oct 2015 #39

Bill of Rights First Amendment: Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Assembly and Petition Omaha Steve Oct 2015 #44

Welcome to DU! snort Oct 2015 #45

+1000. nt awoke_in_2003 Oct 2015 #80

Exactly! Run them over! strikers = strikees n/t mhatrw Oct 2015 #53

Is this your "right to work" argument? n/t mhatrw Oct 2015 #57

what flavour would you like on your pizza? niyad Oct 2015 #61

Dumbest nubie post evah jpak Oct 2015 #65

that's how picket lines work.... mike_c Oct 2015 #66

That would make you a scab. Mopar151 Oct 2015 #67

Let's just make this easy and quick Trajan Oct 2015 #69

Yes, attempted murder is the appropriate response to this situation. jeff47 Oct 2015 #71

It's obvious you've never been in that situation n/t GP6971 Oct 2015 #72

Really? MuseRider Oct 2015 #78

Scabs should find a non union job. nt awoke_in_2003 Oct 2015 #81

Scab Fairgo Oct 2015 #82

Enjoy your stay. bvf Oct 2015 #89

I've occasionally bought Dietz and Watson products. That's ended. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #6

Got that right, going forward until they settle this company action..................... turbinetree Oct 2015 #11

Off topic... HDSam Oct 2015 #21

So 2 employees who want the right to earn less and have shitty healthcare.... LynneSin Oct 2015 #10

+1 merrily Oct 2015 #24

Dietz & Watson officials, not poor workers looking for safeinOhio Oct 2015 #27

This story in the DU just got flashed WORLD WIDE on union news sites! Omaha Steve Oct 2015 #15

The two drivers are probably 90-percent Oct 2015 #18

White collar workers usually get pretty good health insurance, pay, vacations ... JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2015 #95

I didn't know there were anti-union trolls on this board shenmue Oct 2015 #28

They are everywhere. TygrBright Oct 2015 #32

well said uawchild Oct 2015 #40

The scabs need to go. Fairgo Oct 2015 #84

OK, they're off my shopping list until further notice. TygrBright Oct 2015 #34

Curious. What is their product? Sounds like a packing plant jwirr Oct 2015 #55

They make ALOT of processed products BumRushDaShow Oct 2015 #58

Not D & W picketing MichMan Oct 2015 #60

I can recall walking a picket line packman Oct 2015 #47

There was no strike or walkout MichMan Oct 2015 #54

I have seen other unions do this and I still support them. jwirr Oct 2015 #62

Not condoning MichMan Oct 2015 #68

glad to see that the bastard was arrested. the charges should be attempted murder, and niyad Oct 2015 #64

wow my ignore button is getting a work out olddots Oct 2015 #76