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Peace Patriot

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18. What has happened to the accused's right to trial and appropriate sentencing?
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 10:55 AM
Dec 2011

Can a City Council or County Board of Supervisors add penalties to a person's sentence after judicial proceedings have ended, with the accused not only having no right to representation but not even being there, not even knowing that they are being stripped of their property and becoming, in effect, indentured slaves of the city or county?

This is insane. And this is the sort of abuse of power that leads to bloody revolutions.

I can't say it surprises me, from Riverside County--one of the most notoriously bad election systems in a country of the worst election systems ever devised (ES&S/Diebold 80% monopoly, all over the U.S., with voting machines run on their 'TRADE SECRET' code with virtually no audit/recount controls). Riverside County officials have been among the worst in adopting the corporate cultural of secrecy around vote counting. Now this--robbing helpless prisoners!--something out of the Middle Ages! Will flogging be next? Cutting off hands of thieves? Jailing of entire families in the "Poor House"?

Someone upthread says the state of Washington does this. I am appalled. But then, we are in the age of Diebold, when leaders even in progressive states like Wisconsin and Washington behave like fascist assholes or feel obliged to cater to fascist assholes.

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So when prisons become a profit center for local government Speck Tater Dec 2011 #1
we're not headed there... we ARE there. ixion Dec 2011 #11
Well...they should pay for their medical services.. FarPoint Dec 2011 #13
I have mixed feelings about this nadine_mn Dec 2011 #2
It happened in Pennsylvania. tomg Dec 2011 #4
It was Luzerne County. The judges took money from no_hypocrisy Dec 2011 #12
Thanks for the info. I thought tomg Dec 2011 #19
This is completely insane on so many levels. tomg Dec 2011 #3
You aren't. That's exactly what this is. "We're broke so we can't afford your civil rights" AllyCat Dec 2011 #17
I cannot believe this baloney will pass constitutional muster if and when coalition_unwilling Dec 2011 #5
This is already happening in Washington the state. When you get parolled you usually own thousands a rhett o rick Dec 2011 #6
When we get to the point Newest Reality Dec 2011 #7
This won't really work... ellisonz Dec 2011 #8
No, but it will hurt a lot of people before they figure that out starroute Dec 2011 #9
The only way I see it working is if... ellisonz Dec 2011 #10
This is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. Placing liens on their homes, really?! Luciferous Dec 2011 #14
This is extra incentive for privately run prisons Auggie Dec 2011 #15
So knowing it will cost money to go to jail will prevent crime? AllyCat Dec 2011 #16
What has happened to the accused's right to trial and appropriate sentencing? Peace Patriot Dec 2011 #18
Manifestly violates the 'due process' and 'takings' clauses of the coalition_unwilling Dec 2011 #22
That's some bullshit! backtoblue Dec 2011 #20
Fuckers! n/t Hotler Dec 2011 #21
Reminds me of Deukmejian's Three Strikes and You're Out.... Trillo Dec 2011 #23
run 'em into the poor house. barbtries Dec 2011 #24
Pay up or get the f@$# out! 24601 Dec 2011 #25
And if you fail to pay your 'debt'? ---> Debtor's Prison for you! Shoe Horn Dec 2011 #26
Call it "Motel 6 to 12" KamaAina Dec 2011 #27
How many people turn to crime due to poverty? CaliforniaHiker Dec 2011 #28
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