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18. In order to get the program passed in Congress and if it is to be paid with increased income taxes

Sun Oct 18, 2015, 10:41 PM

Oct 2015

There has to be an amount in order to raise the taxes in order to pay for these programs. I need to know how much my taxes will be raised before I vote.

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Sanders Endorses Small Tax Hike On All To Fund Family Leave [View all] big_dog Oct 2015 OP

What does Sanders estimate the cost of this program will be? Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #1

If other countries like Hungary and Austria (used to have this kind of leave) JDPriestly Oct 2015 #6

In order to get the program passed in Congress and if it is to be paid with increased income taxes Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #18

You can figure it out. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #63

Wrong on the employers paying half of the payroll tax sum, employers does not match the income tax, Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #78

They're using the terms properly. Igel Oct 2015 #93

If you look at the Form 941 which employer files and go to line 3, you will find the words Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #98

Australia pays a lump sum forr 129 days. We would not have to replace the full income JDPriestly Oct 2015 #114

i believe he said his team is working on the particulars restorefreedom Oct 2015 #105

What I thought, increase in taxes to the people struggling to make ends meet. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #107

we don't know how it is structured. restorefreedom Oct 2015 #109

yes, you do pay for it already w0nderer Oct 2015 #45

there's just not the same logical rationale for paid child leave I'm afraid redruddyred Oct 2015 #69

waow didn't even mention that one w0nderer Oct 2015 #71

Yeah, I'm not really good with this either. JoeyT Oct 2015 #81

It's certainly not going to drive me away, but same I don't agree with it. Then again I would MillennialDem Oct 2015 #88

+1000 smirkymonkey Oct 2015 #138

I just want to know how all of these programs are going to get paid. You can't reach in the air and Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #77

You really can just reach into the air to pay for it Yupster Oct 2015 #82

Yes, just like we reached into thin air TM99 Oct 2015 #86

In fairness, we would have grabbed even more out of thin air, but that patch went to the wars. MillennialDem Oct 2015 #89

Defense budget cuts, imo. MillennialDem Oct 2015 #90

I heard talk the proposed programs was going to cost a lot, don't know if $19 Trillion but it will Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #106

$ 19 trillion Yupster Oct 2015 #130

Got $509 B in the defense budget n/t lancer78 Oct 2015 #83

DOD takes most of the discretionary spending n/t TexasBushwhacker Oct 2015 #125

We.are.going.to.TAX TBF Oct 2015 #104

Bernie's %47 moment: Taxing the Working poor too! AllTooEasy Oct 2015 #70

It'll be OK, Hillary. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #76

5$ a head. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #75

Well worth while. The nice thing about the payroll tax is that the money goes to you and me. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #2

How does it go to me? Capt.Rocky300 Oct 2015 #3

Are you still paying payroll taxes? dflprincess Oct 2015 #9

That was my take on it but...... Capt.Rocky300 Oct 2015 #11

Well, he didn't say it but I'm guessing employers pay TexasBushwhacker Oct 2015 #29

Employers only match FICA and Medicare, they do not match employee income tax deductions. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #79

Sanders said it would be a .2% increase in payroll tax TexasBushwhacker Oct 2015 #111

Yes FICA and Medicare is matched which is different than Federal Income Tax, it is not matched by Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #112

Well, since it isn't law yet TexasBushwhacker Oct 2015 #120

Bernie's being honest. The fact is, you cant JUST tax the rich and pay for it all 7962 Oct 2015 #42

You're a little off PSPS Oct 2015 #49

"income" is one thing, "assets" are another. Only 6 people made a billion in a year, 7962 Oct 2015 #72

Why are we in a world of shit if we raise taxes on capital gains and carried interest? MillennialDem Oct 2015 #91

You're not. Igel Oct 2015 #94

I agree, but raising taxes on people making less than... Capt.Rocky300 Oct 2015 #51

From the article TexasBushwhacker Oct 2015 #116

Read this article and feel the shame. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #12

JD, you misunderstand my point.... Capt.Rocky300 Oct 2015 #20

But if the minimum wage is raised significantly TexasBushwhacker Oct 2015 #30

Good point, but..... Capt.Rocky300 Oct 2015 #34

I'm one of those people and I don't even have kids! TexasBushwhacker Oct 2015 #41

But a PAYROLL tax will eat into that "raise". George II Oct 2015 #37

.2% - One fifth of one percent TexasBushwhacker Oct 2015 #117

To the Greater Good LynnTTT Oct 2015 #33

My parents once complained about having to pay for schools newthinking Oct 2015 #40

Hey, I never had kids and never will TexasBushwhacker Oct 2015 #43

there are too many kids being born today redruddyred Oct 2015 #68

I agree with you. Cut the Birth subsidies (but maintain good schools) newthinking Oct 2015 #85

While I agree with you, suggest cutting tax deductions TexasBushwhacker Oct 2015 #127

You had better start telling Republicans to lay off Planned Parenthood if that is the way you feel Stargazer99 Oct 2015 #99

no kidding redruddyred Oct 2015 #133

Payroll Tax = Social Security maxsolomon Oct 2015 #121

It also comes from you and me, it certainly doesn't come from anyone NOT on a payroll, like.... George II Oct 2015 #7

Bernie wants to change that by raising the cap on income subject to Social Security. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #14

These guys do not pay payroll tax, they pay on dividends and capital gains. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #25

That is not laid in stone. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #64

Are you proposing that capital gains and dividends, in addition to the current income taxes paid, kelly1mm Oct 2015 #101

I'm saying that the money that is paid out for social programs that benefit our whole country JDPriestly Oct 2015 #113

IMHO everyone under retirement age TexasBushwhacker Oct 2015 #119

Bernie is running on a plan to change the tax code. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #65

We were told here on DU that he would only raise taxes on the 1% leftofcool Oct 2015 #4

I think it went something like..."he would only raise taxes BY 1%, on the 99%"! George II Oct 2015 #8

"Bernie lost me with the Robin Hood Tax" red dog 1 Oct 2015 #31

Payroll taxes are regressive taxes - they tax workers' pay. How much "pay" do billionaires get? George II Oct 2015 #5

Vote for Bernie and you will find out. Bernie plans to raise the cap on payroll taxes JDPriestly Oct 2015 #15

The only rich who will pay are those on the "payroll". George II Oct 2015 #23

Maybe we need "payroll" taxes on all income TexasBushwhacker Oct 2015 #36

Yeah - the other day I bought a CD Yupster Oct 2015 #84

The payroll taxes currently apply to bonuses. Igel Oct 2015 #95

As I've been saying from the start, the revolution is BainsBane Oct 2015 #19

Don't tax you, don't tax me, tax that guy behind the tree! bluestateguy Oct 2015 #10

This will hurt him ram2008 Oct 2015 #13

+ 1 red dog 1 Oct 2015 #21

No. The only other countries in the world that do not provide paid leave of some sort JDPriestly Oct 2015 #24

No? red dog 1 Oct 2015 #48

It's a 0.2% tax. joshcryer Oct 2015 #50

What bothers me is that the tax is regressive BainsBane Oct 2015 #16

No wonder he's supported by a significant bloc of conservative voters George II Oct 2015 #26

Funny that it's the Clinton supporters sounding like the Cato Institute on this thread, then Scootaloo Oct 2015 #58

You don't have any idea about it but you expect upaloopa Oct 2015 #126

I expect to not read Heritage Foundation-sounding shit on Democratic Underground Scootaloo Oct 2015 #132

Well aren't you the Betty Bowers of upaloopa Oct 2015 #136

I know tea party tax-rants when I see 'em Scootaloo Oct 2015 #137

Tell me this BainsBane Oct 2015 #17

Everyone i know has paid leave where they work. But thats just me 7962 Oct 2015 #46

A lot do. Igel Oct 2015 #96

At least he's truthful zentrum Oct 2015 #22

That is one of his other proposals, to be funded by stock trades. He's looking more and more....... George II Oct 2015 #27

That tax is supposed to pay for college tuition, it sounds really good but will be really hard to Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #28

The tax on Wall Street trades is to cover the free college tuition. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #32

Oh right—College. Thanks. zentrum Oct 2015 #39

But what Bernie is suggesting is just a wiser way to pay for things we pay for anyway. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #61

Hope Bernie will map zentrum Oct 2015 #124

"millions every year" wont touch the cost nt 7962 Oct 2015 #47

It's closer to billions really. zentrum Oct 2015 #55

OMG! Paying for something that will help families! neverforget Oct 2015 #35

2%, 3% OK with me LynnTTT Oct 2015 #38

I agree red dog 1 Oct 2015 #57

No thanks, Bernie. We have enough niggling little regressive taxes in this country Warpy Oct 2015 #44

That's the tax that will fund college tuitions TexasBushwhacker Oct 2015 #131

Great endorsement of the FAMILY Act. joshcryer Oct 2015 #52

OK. Getting real. I'm certainly willing to pay higher taxes if I can PatrickforO Oct 2015 #53

I thought the Rich was going to foot the bill? itsrobert Oct 2015 #54

+ 1 red dog 1 Oct 2015 #59

If Bernie supporters still think that he can win the presidency with this quote.... Yavin4 Oct 2015 #56

I'm a Bernie supporter; but I don't think he can win the presidency... red dog 1 Oct 2015 #60

Unfortunately, I agree that this was not a smart move Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #66

This has no effect on the nomination. joshcryer Oct 2015 #80

I think Bernie is right but America won't and this is a losing fight. Drunken Irishman Oct 2015 #62

this is the only part of the platform I disagree with redruddyred Oct 2015 #67

Reasonable Android3.14 Oct 2015 #73

I'm very surprised a democratic socialist would impose a regressive tax. nt Nitram Oct 2015 #74

After that remark I'm wondering which side of the political fence you are on Stargazer99 Oct 2015 #100

Unless the two sides of the fence are "rather liberal" and "very liberal"... Nitram Oct 2015 #135

Cost of this program lancer78 Oct 2015 #87

Doesn't that assume that each of those births is by a working woman? B2G Oct 2015 #92

Which would make this cheaper still. n/t lancer78 Oct 2015 #97

I don't like what I am reading on this thread. azmom Oct 2015 #102

A .02 tax is a lot of money to a lot of folks Yavin4 Oct 2015 #110

There is always some fucking justification for azmom Oct 2015 #115

I agree. It's not unlike paying property taxes to TexasBushwhacker Oct 2015 #123

I'm not having any more children and the azmom Oct 2015 #128

Well said. (n/t) Nihil Oct 2015 #134

good idea. n/t MBS Oct 2015 #103

Fox is worried too portlander23 Oct 2015 #108

Why not just lift the cap on income subject to SS enough to cover the cost? yellowcanine Oct 2015 #118

Bernie wants to do that as well maxsolomon Oct 2015 #122

" All workers would face a slight payroll tax hike." Wabbajack_ Oct 2015 #129