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72. That's unfortunate, and one of Sanders' few bad votes. Whose crime bill was that?

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Thu Oct 22, 2015, 10:04 PM

Oct 2015

Who else supported it? Who opposed it?

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Sanders won�t take up the Obama mantle [View all] brooklynite Oct 2015 OP

Why does Bernie think that being the anti Obama will help him with Democrats? bravenak Oct 2015 #1

Exactly! Almost what I wrote. The president has a positive record of accomplishments to run on. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2015 #5

Did you read the article? bunnies Oct 2015 #9

Don't shit on the president's major accomplishment Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2015 #84

Was this meant for me? bunnies Oct 2015 #85

It's meant to Sanders and anyone who shits on the president's accomplishments! Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2015 #86

The title is bullshit. bunnies Oct 2015 #87

Ah! You just said exactly what I always say. bravenak Oct 2015 #13

Obama has been a disappointment to the vast majority of progressives. mhatrw Oct 2015 #47

Because Sanders voted for the crime bill and threw us under the bus. bravenak Oct 2015 #48

just to be fair to Sanders, the 'for profit' prison Corps pushed those laws and Sunlei Oct 2015 #59

I Was told that Sander's stands on principle. bravenak Oct 2015 #61

That's unfortunate, and one of Sanders' few bad votes. Whose crime bill was that? mhatrw Oct 2015 #72

I don't read this as the anti-Obama, but rather going further than Obama nt geek tragedy Oct 2015 #6

I do. bravenak Oct 2015 #14

Obama talked about this same stuff in 2008. geek tragedy Oct 2015 #16

Wanting to go farther than Obama in regulating Wall Street is "anti-Obama"? djean111 Oct 2015 #8

His comments are always trying to cast obama as weak or in a negative light. bravenak Oct 2015 #20

Oh, please........... zalinda Oct 2015 #38

He looked like a deer in the headlights. Many here were afraid for his safety. bravenak Oct 2015 #39

Please stop telling untruths Pastiche423 Oct 2015 #41

Yes. It is my opinion that that is shrinking. He lost his mojo. bravenak Oct 2015 #42

You are seeing things that are not there Pastiche423 Oct 2015 #43

No. bravenak Oct 2015 #49

Yes Pastiche423 Oct 2015 #50

Naw bravenak Oct 2015 #51

For this reason, bravenak: Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #22

His tone turns me off. bravenak Oct 2015 #37

A weakness? That's an interesting way of looking it. Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #45

All the things you just listed are nice. Third way, but nice. bravenak Oct 2015 #46

Thirdway? Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #52

Economics over social justice. bravenak Oct 2015 #53

Do you have a link for that definition? Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #55

I am the author. I took third way and flipped it. bravenak Oct 2015 #57

The common thread for both meanings is that thirdway and Thirdway Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #63

Both side are equally bad. Either third way. I am left, but I side with Social Justice if pressed. bravenak Oct 2015 #64

There's no difference MFrohike Oct 2015 #66

They way terms are used is fluid. You know that. bravenak Oct 2015 #67

That's why I push back MFrohike Oct 2015 #69

You've got that backwards - TBF Oct 2015 #79

I got blocked from the Bernie group for making the same point. JoePhilly Oct 2015 #78

...and that's why Sanders will lose. Distancing himself from Obama's successful record will likely Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2015 #2

turns me off. Sanders needs to build on the Obama policies, not tear it up. Sunlei Oct 2015 #21

All of his policies? Including TPP? Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #24

The TPP is not an American only trade treaty. We're just a signer (or not) of trade agreements. Sunlei Oct 2015 #26

Oh, so we're only talking about domestic policies? Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #28

He needs a lot more detail for his 'policies'. He has always said those things for many years. Sunlei Oct 2015 #29

Good point. Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #31

It helps to actually read what Sanders said. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #33

Please don't get in the way of the propaganda. JackRiddler Oct 2015 #89

Wow! He came right out and said it! leftofcool Oct 2015 #3

Good, we NEED to go further n/t arcane1 Oct 2015 #4

+1. nt bunnies Oct 2015 #11

I hope you all will go further. Francois9 Oct 2015 #12

Absolutely! Third wayers are trying to make banks untouchable cprise Oct 2015 #73

Thanks for the info. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #7

Bernie is not interested in conducting Obama's third term. That's not why he's running. TwilightGardener Oct 2015 #10

So who are these tens of millions who, in the upaloopa Oct 2015 #15

+ 1,000,000 and these same millions won't even bother to vote. It all sounds so dramatic. N/t livetohike Oct 2015 #19

Uh, the electorate? Bernie talks all the time about expanding turnout. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #34

He sure talks about it all the time. Talk is not a plan of action. That is the problem upaloopa Oct 2015 #36

Gotta love that 2014 third way voter enthusiasm cprise Oct 2015 #74

you don't know what you are taking about upaloopa Oct 2015 #75

"Make me do it" said President Obama and no one made him. How can Sanders "mobilize"? Sunlei Oct 2015 #17

By getting them to vote for him in the general election, for starters. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #35

And the Obama/Hillary disciples nyabingi Oct 2015 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Oct 2015 #32

The meaning of the word has certainly changed Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #70

They would've been solid Republicans back before nyabingi Oct 2015 #83

To those offended at the idea of going further, can we fucking pass the Equality Act or ENDA Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #23

The president's main concern from the beginning was to bring back our economy from disaster FloridaBlues Oct 2015 #25

I do not see President Obama endorsing anyone until after the primaries. He won't play into the still_one Oct 2015 #27

I agree, not until after the primary. Sunlei Oct 2015 #30

in fairness she actually said "Republicans refer to her as the enemy" still_one Oct 2015 #54

She did? thanks, ok thats good. I have to agree with her 100%. Sunlei Oct 2015 #56

Maybe, but they have a pretty contested race going on with their own party, and I think they will still_one Oct 2015 #58

you're probably right, if they don't vote in & cheat their primary-Trump will win :P Sunlei Oct 2015 #60

well, duh. people who like war, TPP, corporate government, for profit charter schools, Doctor_J Oct 2015 #40

The fact that he plans to go further sadoldgirl Oct 2015 #44

Shit, let's hope so! Earth_First Oct 2015 #62

He can't go further without Congress treestar Oct 2015 #65

As far as I'm concerned, this man has become the heart and soul tabasco Oct 2015 #68

Good, because Obama hasn't been all that great Reter Oct 2015 #71

Sanders won't take up much of anything.... BooScout Oct 2015 #76

Considering how rarely the same party has won three elections in a row in the last six decades davidpdx Oct 2015 #77

One of the things I counted on when deciding to vote for Sanders. I'm done NorthCarolina Oct 2015 #80

Good. Every candidate should be their own person. alarimer Oct 2015 #81

Good. truebluegreen Oct 2015 #82

I like that this meaningless hit-piece... JackRiddler Oct 2015 #88