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24. I disagree. We don't have the kind of democracy that allows us to vote that way.

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 04:40 PM

Dec 2011

There are three choices on the state and national level - vote republican, vote democratic, or throw your vote away. Sucks, but that's how it works.

I will vote for Obama because I don't want a crazy, psychopathic repug in the White House. And when I vote for Obama, I won't carry the baggage that I'm endorsing endless war or anything else I disagree with him on. We can do that. Really.

Change? Vote for progressives in your neighborhood, help to put progressive measures on the ballot. From the ground up we can effect change. From the top down, the best we can do is minimize damage.

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Speaking out against the banks is terrorism now. kenfrequed Dec 2011 #1

This is what happens when you let ANY government have unchecked power to wage endless war ixion Dec 2011 #4

uh... hang a left Dec 2011 #5

Well, gee, there was a dem majority in congress when the unPATRIOTic Act was passed. ixion Dec 2011 #7

Are you a member of congress? hang a left Dec 2011 #15

We, as in We, the People. ixion Dec 2011 #20

I disagree. We don't have the kind of democracy that allows us to vote that way. gtar100 Dec 2011 #24

No, that's the way political hacks want yo to look at it ixion Dec 2011 #25

I agree in principle but it's not how it works. Two parties - that's all that's being served, gtar100 Dec 2011 #31

'Real change is from the ground up,' is correct. The GOP has done this state after state until they freshwest Dec 2011 #40

As long as we continue to vote for nineteen50 Dec 2011 #44

Do you think that will miraculously stop if you don't vote? lunatica Dec 2011 #61

The US is effectively a one party system. ixion Dec 2011 #64

And you not voting will stop this somehow? lunatica Dec 2011 #65

we're going in the same direction no matter who is in office. This is my point. ixion Dec 2011 #66

"Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos," isn't really a tenable argument. nt. harmonicon Dec 2011 #38

Really? I voted for Obama because he was better then McCain. Devil_Fish Dec 2011 #43

Uhm... Wrong. kenfrequed Dec 2011 #22

LOL... my, what a short and selective memory you have. ixion Dec 2011 #26

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Last I checked kenfrequed Dec 2011 #35

My premise is that BOTH parties have contributed to the implementation of the Corporate Police State ixion Dec 2011 #36

That is a very well-turned phrase ==> CORPORATE POLICE STATE 99th_Monkey Dec 2011 #41

thanks, and feel free ixion Dec 2011 #52

Again kenfrequed Dec 2011 #55

The vast majority supported it, and this is my point. ixion Dec 2011 #56

Still haven't bother to correct yourself about the house kenfrequed Dec 2011 #59

Yep right after anthrax was mysteriously sent to dems nt rainy Dec 2011 #57

I still have questions about that kenfrequed Dec 2011 #60

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With PermaWar comes the Unitary Presidency: SteveW Dec 2011 #10

This is the UK DissedByBush Dec 2011 #14

True, but unfortunately the U.S. seems to be "catching up." nt SteveW Dec 2011 #17

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the pilot, using the unPATRIOTic Act as a rationale, so... ixion Dec 2011 #23

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They most certainly were, US govt or other, one enabling act or another. ixion Dec 2011 #28

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Dog bites Man story vminfla Dec 2011 #69

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