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73. It's part of PNAC

Mon Nov 2, 2015, 08:41 PM

Nov 2015

and Republican president or Democrat makes little difference. Obama might even get another Nobel Peace prize for his work.
Syria provides, under U.S. control, a pipeline from Qatar to Mediterranean, lessening the dependency of Europe on Russian natural gas.
Another element is to break up Iran - Syria - Hezbollah axis, satisfying the Israelis, and Saudis.
Another aspect seems to be to keep the region in endless turmoil, so we can to wrest control of the oil and gas resources, of all ME countries, hence PNAC.
And we've made our bed with the wahabis of Saudi Arabia, so look the other way as they fuel ISIS, along with Turkey and Qatar. And we make pathetic attempts to get rid of ISIS, because that would conflict with our desire to get rid of Assad and break up the Iran-Syria-Hezbollah axis.
That's the way I see it.

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Obama sending US commandos into Syria [View all] Freddie Stubbs Oct 2015 OP

And who do we have to thank for ISIS? Botany Oct 2015 #1

and are Persian Gulf allies who give them money and whoever buys their black market oil yurbud Oct 2015 #2

You know what, this is Obama's puppy now. We have no reason to have a ground operation in TwilightGardener Oct 2015 #3

President Obama was handed an almost unsolvable problems w/ ...... Botany Oct 2015 #7

I'm not saying Obama was responsible for ISIS. I don't believe he was. TwilightGardener Oct 2015 #10

doing nothing is also a choice, and one that should be appraised on its own merits geek tragedy Oct 2015 #18

I don't think we've been "doing nothing". We've been conducting airstrikes TwilightGardener Oct 2015 #20

no need to trust, we can think for ourselves nt geek tragedy Oct 2015 #21

Strawman betterdemsonly Oct 2015 #42

it was next to nothing nt geek tragedy Oct 2015 #44

How can you say it was next to nothing when it produced as many as 5 or 6 fighters? 24601 Oct 2015 #59

It produced about 120 or so fighters, released in two batches. TwilightGardener Oct 2015 #61

and Afghanistan, and Pakistan, and Libya, and even Yemen. n/t dixiegrrrrl Oct 2015 #45

And, Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia, Guatemala, Honduras, Cuba, Angola, and other places we've helped. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #48

and because he never held who was responsible accountable Skittles Oct 2015 #60

He funded them when he opted to fund the Syrian opposition betterdemsonly Oct 2015 #41

Libya is no picnic either. CentralMass Oct 2015 #55

Weak. Darb Nov 2015 #71

+ 1000 and please restorefreedom Oct 2015 #36

Obama let them off the hook Skittles Oct 2015 #52

The economy was in free fall, the GDP was in negative #s ,and we were ..... Botany Oct 2015 #53

so we let people who lied their way INTO A WAR off the hook Skittles Oct 2015 #54

I am pissed about that too. Botany Oct 2015 #56

he DIDN'T achieve the "most good" Skittles Oct 2015 #57

yes and no Botany Oct 2015 #58

US ground troops in Syria? WTF uawchild Oct 2015 #4

Don't get so excited! Shemp Howard Oct 2015 #23

ah, yes... good points... uawchild Oct 2015 #40

Which is why we did not really "leave" Iraq....or Afghanistan. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2015 #46

he was always one of them. betterdemsonly Oct 2015 #43

if this was all really about Isis, we'd freeze accounts of gov'ts who gave the money yurbud Oct 2015 #5

+1 GreatGazoo Oct 2015 #17

and it's embarrassing to hear that Russia is bombing the "moderate" rebels when our gov't has yurbud Nov 2015 #65

....x10+ 840high Oct 2015 #32

Sorry Mr President, you have lost me! Paper Roses Oct 2015 #6

"our transgressions into Korea" EX500rider Oct 2015 #16

Oh please Dale Scott Oct 2015 #30

So it's fine if N Korea wants to invade and conquer their neighbor with you? EX500rider Oct 2015 #35

"More robust presence" hibbing Oct 2015 #8

And by what authority do we have the right to put our troops in a sovereign country without Purveyor Oct 2015 #9

The fact that we are able to do so certainly calls into question Syria's sovereignty Freddie Stubbs Oct 2015 #13

Yeah, Putin will be pissed! Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #24

Should and most likely will take it before the failing and basically irrelevant UN. eom Purveyor Oct 2015 #33

No country has the right to do this. Francois9 Oct 2015 #63

Didn't his predecessor instigate a "surge" in his war, at about the same time in his presidency? Doctor_J Oct 2015 #11

Actually, Obama has been even less honest and forthcoming than Bush regarding what he's doing. TwilightGardener Oct 2015 #15

US to send special forces to Syria as diplomats talk peace bemildred Oct 2015 #12

President Obama breaks pledge: U.S. will send ground troops into Syria bemildred Oct 2015 #14

What would a "diplomatic solution" even look like? metalbot Oct 2015 #50

that text is referring to a diplomatic solution to the civil war karynnj Oct 2015 #64

The old in 'n out. Francois9 Nov 2015 #69

fewer than 50 commandos to help coalition forces coordinate with the local troops Sunlei Oct 2015 #19

I do not believe this will end with just 50 troops. Paper Roses Oct 2015 #22

I agree with you. Shemp Howard Oct 2015 #25

if 50 is the teeth mwrguy Oct 2015 #28

Can we call it war now? n/t arcane1 Oct 2015 #26

"I will not put American boots on the ground in Syria." mwrguy Oct 2015 #27

History would suggest that this will not go well. The Russians are dropping bombs like candy and CentralMass Oct 2015 #29

Recommended ONLY for exposure. Duppers Oct 2015 #31

People voted for him because he was anti-war lark Oct 2015 #34

another MIC sellout liar restorefreedom Oct 2015 #37

And history repeats itself WestSeattle2 Oct 2015 #38

shep smith just gave a stunning rebuke and criticism restorefreedom Oct 2015 #39

While Shep Smith is better than most at Fox, he's still a Fox Newers. PersonNumber503602 Nov 2015 #67

i agree with you about everyone there but shep. during katrina, he was in no restorefreedom Nov 2015 #68

Yay!! More War!! More Glory!! More Billionaires!! Now, if we could just win one. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #47

There's always the mighty Panamanian military to gloriously defeat! n/t arcane1 Oct 2015 #51

Obama's preparation for his next "peace prize," no doubt. PSPS Oct 2015 #49

well isn't that special Skittles Oct 2015 #62

Why Syria? I understand Iraq, but they really shouldn't be in Syria. PersonNumber503602 Nov 2015 #66

Here's why. Francois9 Nov 2015 #70

It's part of PNAC ozone_man Nov 2015 #73

Simple really, Putin said no troops without permission from Assad, Obama said Darb Nov 2015 #72