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branford

(4,462 posts)
75. The actual side of law?
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 06:22 PM
Nov 2015

Based on the information provided, the police and the various police unions have violated no law or collective bargaining agreement, no matter now much you wish it were otherwise. That's why we've heard of no investigations by any federal, state or local authorities, or even the threat of such investigations, even in the most anti-police jurisdictions.

You and others can wrap yourselves in knots trying to justify racketeering, civil rights or other causes of action, but to anyone with actual knowledge of the law, it just seems foolish and desperate at this juncture.

As I indicated before, I don't like the police threats. However, my defense of constitutional and labor rights far outweighs any ideological objection I have with the content of this specific police protest, particularly because I understand that in the near impossible circumstance where some of the ideas proposed in this thread ever came to fruition, it would be legally devastating to all of labor, and welcome by Republicans as they used it to bludgeon unions across the country. If you want inaccurately characterize this as defending the police position in their dispute with Tarantino, so be it.

Your "actual side of law" is nothing more than your faith, opinion and hope. Do not expect any legal action against the police unless circumstances dramatically change. If you want to counter the police speech and conduct, organize and counter-protest

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Fire all police, recreate them with all new officials and police randys1 Nov 2015 #1
true that heaven05 Nov 2015 #5
What I want to know........................ turbinetree Nov 2015 #34
+1 grntuscarora Nov 2015 #60
welll fuck the fraternal order of police....who the onecent Nov 2015 #76
So the cops add terroristic threats to their repertoire... blackspade Nov 2015 #2
Hello, Department of Impotence? I mean Department of Justice. You paying attention? n/t jtuck004 Nov 2015 #3
Sorry, we have some kids smoking a joint whose lives we need to ruin, call back later. Ikonoklast Nov 2015 #41
How can this heaven05 Nov 2015 #4
Because who's going to arrest him for the threats? christx30 Nov 2015 #14
The FBI MynameisBlarney Nov 2015 #31
Do you honestly see the FBI stepping in christx30 Nov 2015 #36
Hell, I don't either, lol MynameisBlarney Nov 2015 #39
justice department? heaven05 Nov 2015 #48
The justice department said that there were no civil rights violations christx30 Nov 2015 #55
Maybe he means they'll buy pizza for the cast and crew? Orrex Nov 2015 #6
Well, that was stupid. yardwork Nov 2015 #7
I know, right! Quinton will tell you, "Zed's dead!" Dustlawyer Nov 2015 #42
Thin skinned bullies Magleetis Nov 2015 #8
And then they wonder why people don't trust them. christx30 Nov 2015 #9
This threat making fascist should be instantly fired Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #10
Kick for exposure. - As if we needed to be reminded, that police "unions" are anything but 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #11
Kinda proves his point . kacekwl Nov 2015 #12
Indeed it does. nt Duppers Nov 2015 #64
thuggish rhetoric from a cop 'union?' SHOCKING! nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #13
This is how cops want us to think they are different from organized crime thuggery ?!! Hmmm ? Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2015 #15
That is not a threat Calista241 Nov 2015 #16
Wow is that pitiful justification. jeff47 Nov 2015 #17
I'm not justifying anything. Calista241 Nov 2015 #18
But in the eyes of a reasonable person, it's a threat. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #33
despite that, if it was issued w0nderer Nov 2015 #44
... Javaman Nov 2015 #46
I think that is what they are going to do. Provide no or very little security at all. Just to prove LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #78
DU used to have defenders of these "unions." villager Nov 2015 #19
One posted right above you. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2015 #21
Sadly, you are right. villager Nov 2015 #23
I'll jump right in... branford Nov 2015 #66
Sorry, no. Police cannot collectively "threaten" because of the specifics of their public trust villager Nov 2015 #67
Simply, no. branford Nov 2015 #69
You have the "simply no" part right, viz. the police villager Nov 2015 #70
As I originally stated, I don't like the police comments or strategy. branford Nov 2015 #71
We may be arguing apples and oranges here villager Nov 2015 #72
Placing police union in quotes is foolish. branford Nov 2015 #73
You are free to keep defending them, of course. villager Nov 2015 #74
The actual side of law? branford Nov 2015 #75
Do you defend police threats to this degree in the gungeon, as well? villager Nov 2015 #77
I like all my constitutional, statutory and common law rights, branford Nov 2015 #79
You go right on defending the rights of cops to publicly threaten citizens and artists villager Nov 2015 #80
Quentin can shoot them now right? I mean that's a pretty clear threat to me. geomon666 Nov 2015 #20
i see a smear documentary on nypd in the future saturnsring Nov 2015 #22
It wouldn't even have to be a smear doc MynameisBlarney Nov 2015 #30
Veiled threats from the police show how low America has fallen. Octafish Nov 2015 #24
Looks like Tarantino may be starring in his own next film. KamaAina Nov 2015 #25
So the executive thug said you can't have an opinion without retaliation . Person 2713 Nov 2015 #26
That sounds an awful lot like MynameisBlarney Nov 2015 #27
Yep. He'd better hope that They_Live Nov 2015 #37
I bet QT's Lawyers MynameisBlarney Nov 2015 #40
Sounds and feels like a threat to me packman Nov 2015 #28
So stupid. Poorly played FOP, poorly played. WestSeattle2 Nov 2015 #29
Fucking gangsters. Iggo Nov 2015 #32
As long as it doesn't interfere with... yallerdawg Nov 2015 #35
yeah surprising Quentin a really big supporter of cops PatrynXX Nov 2015 #38
Tarentino has way more friends than NYPD. I love Quentin more than his movies. dinkytron Nov 2015 #43
Just when you think cops couldn't get any worse. Enthusiast Nov 2015 #45
I would not have gone to see this in the theatre fbc Nov 2015 #47
"Be a real shame if anything happended to that new movie of yours, Quentin." tabasco Nov 2015 #49
organized crumbs olddots Nov 2015 #50
My daughter's favorite christx30 Nov 2015 #52
Sounds like extortion and racketeering to me. "Something in works" sounds like "We'll give him Monk06 Nov 2015 #51
Yep libodem Nov 2015 #53
And at the very least conspiracy to suborne Tarantino's first amendent rights. Which would fall Monk06 Nov 2015 #56
Hmmmm libodem Nov 2015 #61
Relevent US Code re violations of rights under color of law... Monk06 Nov 2015 #62
Thank you libodem Nov 2015 #63
Tarantino tonight on Real Time with Bill Maher Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #54
yeah, just saw that.... dhill926 Nov 2015 #58
They Could Taser Him Up and Shoot Him Ducksworthy Nov 2015 #57
What do they plan to do? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2015 #59
These fuckers are getting bold. ohnoyoudidnt Nov 2015 #65
He's a leader of a criminal organization, a thug. n/t Humanist_Activist Nov 2015 #68
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