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NonMetro

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39. That's what they are: increased taxes on tobacco to give more tax breaks to the wealthy,
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 04:25 PM
Nov 2015

Restricted smoking to give more power to the police to harass people who smoked, allowed hotel owners to fine people who smoked in their rooms, gave employers another tool to harass and divide employees, encouraged insurance company to charge more for smokers so they could save money on premiums for themselves - even auto insurance companies charge more for smokers, and also created a black market in cigarettes - Eric Garner was choked to death by the police because he was selling untaxed cigarettes. And of course, created a lucrative market for "stop smoking" "cures."

Finally, it's been made into an issue that keeps us commoners divided, and corporate America knows exactly how to use it to their benefit. It's not the only reason for this, of course, but it started during the Reagan Administration, and the rich have been getting richer and the poor poorer ever since. Anti-smoking is used in exactly the same way as anti-abortion is used, and for exactly the same reason.

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But Boehner smoked like a fiend in his publicly-funded office. Orrex Nov 2015 #1
I doubt Boehner had anything to do with this. n/t cigsandcoffee Nov 2015 #2
I'm sure that he didn't Orrex Nov 2015 #7
Interesting to see how they plan on enforcing this. 7962 Nov 2015 #3
We should also enforce their diets. No more fast foods or sugary drinks. n/t cigsandcoffee Nov 2015 #4
And a 9 pm bedtime FrodosPet Nov 2015 #9
Either of those things kill 435000 a year when done by <20% of adults? whatthehey Nov 2015 #37
HUD will enforce it like any other "damage" to the rental unit happyslug Nov 2015 #5
From the article... Fumesucker Nov 2015 #10
From my experience with Section 8, this is probably NOT what will happen. 7962 Nov 2015 #12
Yes and you can request damages from the Tenant. happyslug Nov 2015 #47
Well, This idiot BdAzzSRT Nov 2015 #13
I come from a family of smokers. And MANY friends who did. 7962 Nov 2015 #14
Glad your friends / family were able to stop. BdAzzSRT Nov 2015 #23
Well, good luck to you. You'll find what works. everyones different. 7962 Nov 2015 #27
i would hope that the people in this housing restorefreedom Nov 2015 #36
Yes, I agree. They should definitely get assistance in helping them to quit. smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #54
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I'm sure that some fellow tenants will be happy to report their neighbors Freddie Stubbs Nov 2015 #20
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Thats true; that smell does travel. nt 7962 Nov 2015 #29
80 year old,healthy idiot here. virgogal Nov 2015 #61
Good move. nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #6
What an asinine move. Gormy Cuss Nov 2015 #8
Come on, I live in a high rent unit and we can't smoke either. We will get smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #53
It's different because you have choice in the market place. Gormy Cuss Nov 2015 #64
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I think it would be a wise idea to have a sectioned off smoking area. smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #55
I hate tobacco smoke. Gormy Cuss Nov 2015 #74
former smoker and working poor w0nderer Nov 2015 #11
It's not "your" apartment because the rules of the game give owners rights you don't have. NonMetro Nov 2015 #18
sorta... w0nderer Nov 2015 #21
Sure, if you intentionally destroy someone else's property. NonMetro Nov 2015 #25
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guess it is w0nderer Nov 2015 #66
No, it IS your apartment while you have a legal tenancy. Gormy Cuss Nov 2015 #52
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So lets provide the housing authority with another grounds for eviction dembotoz Nov 2015 #17
I wish it would be banned in all multi-unit housing. I've had the experience of a neighbor's raccoon Nov 2015 #19
My wife got a wooden side table from her parents, christx30 Nov 2015 #24
It increasingly is. EL34x4 Nov 2015 #50
This is exactly the same way we treat prisoners in this country NonMetro Nov 2015 #22
"Capitalist anti-smoking jihadists" Freddie Stubbs Nov 2015 #28
That's what they are: increased taxes on tobacco to give more tax breaks to the wealthy, NonMetro Nov 2015 #39
Wouldn't those actions cause fewer people to smoke? Freddie Stubbs Nov 2015 #41
If that's what you think, why not just tell everyone that they can't smoke in their houses? NonMetro Nov 2015 #44
People have the right to decide what goes on christx30 Nov 2015 #43
Poor kids- and especially poor kids of color- disproportionately suffer and die of asthma. LeftyMom Nov 2015 #35
And you know tobacco smoke causes this, and not any of the other zillion or so pollutants NonMetro Nov 2015 #40
You do science about as well as you do marxist critique. LeftyMom Nov 2015 #42
Thanks for the insult. I'll be sure to remember you in my will. NonMetro Nov 2015 #45
Plenty of apartment complexes ban smoking these days EL34x4 Nov 2015 #51
I know. Who cares about the rights of renters in their own homes? NonMetro Nov 2015 #59
You rent from an apartment complex, christx30 Nov 2015 #68
Sure, like people in public housing have a choice NonMetro Nov 2015 #71
What's wrong with smoking outside christx30 Nov 2015 #72
There's no proof that humans cause climate change, either XemaSab Nov 2015 #70
They will save a ton of money and perhaps be able to move out of yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #38
No they're not. NonMetro Nov 2015 #62
Trust me. Smokers are going to find a way to smoke. underpants Nov 2015 #30
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Uh underpants Nov 2015 #34
"Put down the cig or I'll light you up" gwheezie Nov 2015 #33
It would be interesting to learn who is behind this. truthisfreedom Nov 2015 #46
Nanny state OakCliffDem Nov 2015 #48
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No, it happens all the time in middle and upper middle class buildings too. smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #56
No 2nd amendment for smoking TexasBushwhacker Nov 2015 #67
No Travis_0004 Nov 2015 #57
The difference gwheezie Nov 2015 #58
Then address that issue Travis_0004 Nov 2015 #60
Nope, we get fined and a threat to get our asses kicked out just like smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #63
Why are some smokers so selfish? ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2015 #69
Gary Smith can KentuckyWoman Nov 2015 #73
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