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jpak

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Wed Nov 18, 2015, 04:16 PM Nov 2015

Lindsey Graham wants war on the Islamic State — with no limits [View all]

Source: Washington Post

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) is readying an authorization of military force against the Islamic State that would allow the United States to attack the militant group's allies anywhere, and with no timetables.

"ISIL is a more credible threat to our homeland than al-Qaeda," Graham said in an interview, referring to the Islamic State by one of its other names. "We need to have an authorization of force that is not limited by geography, time, or means."

The resolution, which Graham plans to officially introduce after the Thanksgiving recess, is being shaped and shopped around to senators on Wednesday. "No geographic limits are placed on American military or intelligence services in the fight against ISIL," reads the outline of the in-process legislation. "No expiration date. No prohibition on sending American forces on the ground to combat ISIL. No prohibitions on the ability of the United States to disrupt online terrorist recruitment activities, online terrorist propaganda, or terrorist communications."

All of that makes Graham's AUMF further-reaching than any comparable ones — none of which have gotten traction in Congress. The Obama administration has favored an authorization of force with a three-year limit, a non-starter among Republican hawks. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has drafted a war authorization that would also place limits on ground troops, and end the 2001 and 2002 authorizations of force against (respectively) al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussain's Iraq. Sens. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) and Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), two freshmen who have campaigned for a new AUMF, wrote in Time magazine Wednesday that their own details need to be worked out. "Questions about whether to 'sunset' an ISIS-specific AUMF and what to do about the 14-year-old statute which currently serves as the administration’s legal underpinning for action against ISIS, remain," they acknowledged.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/18/lindsey-graham-wants-war-on-the-islamic-state-with-no-limits/



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leading to a world war. ChairmanAgnostic Nov 2015 #1
and where is YOUR uniform Mr. Graham? oldandhappy Nov 2015 #2
Probably in his closet, to be fair alcibiades_mystery Nov 2015 #11
gosh oldandhappy Nov 2015 #13
He's retired now after reaching mandatory retirement age (60) for his rank (Colonel). 24601 Nov 2015 #18
Ah, thanks...I thought 2015 under reserve meant "to present" alcibiades_mystery Nov 2015 #19
What? Scarsdale Nov 2015 #22
Well at least he served. tavernier Nov 2015 #38
Reservist lawyer! I'm sure he's gotten a few paper cuts in the line o'duty! MADem Nov 2015 #43
Unlimited war = unlimited war profits! nt valerief Nov 2015 #3
Yep...War without End, Amen. Volaris Nov 2015 #40
What a coincidence. That's what ISIS wants, too. jmondine Nov 2015 #4
What worries me is, both our wingnuts and their wingnuts are jonesing for the End Times phantom power Nov 2015 #7
I'd like all the "war of civilizations" cheerleaders on record about their 2nd-coming beliefs phantom power Nov 2015 #5
I suspect that is a bigger issue than most may think. pangaia Nov 2015 #37
pssssh rtracey Nov 2015 #6
And this is one reason why this guy doesn't get into the Repub Debates with the big boys. EndElectoral Nov 2015 #8
This comment does not hold water. JackRiddler Nov 2015 #15
Their goal is to lure us into war AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #9
Yes, They Want a Big Big War McKim Nov 2015 #27
What they want is a nuclear war AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #29
Not like we haven't been in perpetual warfare somewhere for decades already n/t hibbing Nov 2015 #10
I'll agree they are worse than Al Qaeda when ISIS blows up the empire state and the smithsonian. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #12
If your listen to his congressional inquiry he's much more interested in using them to Jesus Malverde Nov 2015 #14
More war? mitch96 Nov 2015 #16
In this case, unfortunately, I think war *is* necessary. thebighobgoblin Nov 2015 #17
A world war is unfettered as its purpose is annihilation. n/t freshwest Nov 2015 #20
Chickenhawk SHRED Nov 2015 #21
In other words, do what we did in Iraq. 'Cuz that worked so well, right? muntrv Nov 2015 #23
Lindsey Graham can go fight his own war newfie11 Nov 2015 #24
when will these politicians learn? NO MORE WAR!!!!! trueblue2007 Nov 2015 #25
THIS is why you're at one percent (or less), Lindy-poo! lastlib Nov 2015 #26
Republicans should not give anyone foreign policy advice caprichoso Nov 2015 #28
The MIC and neocons want a do-over. They feel they've learned their lessons from Iraq and TwilightGardener Nov 2015 #30
can somebody explain how they are a credible military threat to the US? yurbud Nov 2015 #31
They can commit acts of terror, obviously. They've already killed Americans. TwilightGardener Nov 2015 #32
cutting off their funding from our allies and stopping their oil exports would be even cheaper yurbud Nov 2015 #34
Yes. Amazing no one can seem to do that, over a year later. TwilightGardener Nov 2015 #35
but it's so hard to see oil tankers in an open desert... yurbud Nov 2015 #36
On a brighter note, guess what I found today? Vinca Nov 2015 #33
There's a very easy way to nip this one right in the bud jmowreader Nov 2015 #39
Lol yeah that would most likely do it. Volaris Nov 2015 #41
Even better... jmowreader Nov 2015 #42
I'll hang with you on this madokie Nov 2015 #45
And Lindsey is going to be right on the front lines leading our troops right? IronLionZion Nov 2015 #44
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