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dixiegrrrrl

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42. In China, each citizen has a identity card, without which one cannot even take a bus to work.
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 05:02 PM
Nov 2015

Doing almost anything requires the card: renting/buying a home, a car, being hired for a job, going to a school, getting medical help/.
and even being allowed to move from one's village to a city, which requires special permission plus the card.

Thus enters the problem of China's Ghost Children, who were born in violation of China's then one child law. Millions of them, hidden away by their parents, uneducated, unemployable, and thus they cannot care for themselves or for their elderly parents, which was one of the reasons parents wanted more than one kid in the first place, for old age security.
To be a legal citizen, Ghost Children must pay impossible large fines, well over 60,000 dollars, which few Chinese make in a lifetime.

Now, with the relaxation of the one child rule, the question arises of what will happen to these Ghost people.

THAT is how a law aimed at reducing population evolved over time to create non-citizens in China.

Laws of "Gov't approved ID" passed post 9-11 have pushed people to obtain passports even for internal country use.

Using the passport to collect taxes follows on the heels of allowing Gov. to take one's Soc; Sec. to collect on college loans.
Very slippery slope.

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Unless you're a major corporation... TiberiusB Nov 2015 #1
Do companies have passports? Unequal treatment, then. CurtEastPoint Nov 2015 #2
No rtracey Nov 2015 #15
None of them are personally liable for the company debts Taitertots Nov 2015 #17
correct rtracey Nov 2015 #30
But most of those taxes aren't owed. Igel Nov 2015 #31
This could affect some prominent people. Renew Deal Nov 2015 #3
Nah. Laws are for the 'Little People'... n/t Earth_First Nov 2015 #6
Exactly. nt City Lights Nov 2015 #8
Bingo! geardaddy Nov 2015 #11
50k owed in taxes cannot possibly be "little people" yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #22
Yes it can. Demobrat Nov 2015 #41
I know someone who did something similar PersonNumber503602 Nov 2015 #46
Especially conservatives... AllTooEasy Nov 2015 #14
They want a flat tax or something like it yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #25
could, but it won't. Javaman Nov 2015 #29
"Could", but won't eom LiberalElite Nov 2015 #47
Great law FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #4
Even better than that.... sofa king Nov 2015 #5
Nah MosheFeingold Nov 2015 #10
The sort of people that have island get-aways won't be affected by this. n/t hughee99 Nov 2015 #19
The average Joe usually doesn't owe $50,000 or more to the IRS FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #23
There's a wide gap between "average joe" and "Island getaway joe". hughee99 Nov 2015 #27
It may hit some domestically Igel Nov 2015 #32
Does not avoid the tax bill -- being out of the country tolls the SOL on collection. n/t Hepburn Nov 2015 #26
Really? Helen Borg Nov 2015 #7
Nope. You're confusing citizenship with passport AllTooEasy Nov 2015 #12
Ok, so it's just to prevent Helen Borg Nov 2015 #20
Or simply pay one's taxes. LanternWaste Nov 2015 #38
Before you cheer that idea too loudly.... dixiegrrrrl Nov 2015 #9
Awww...the slippery slope argument again AllTooEasy Nov 2015 #13
Because the government has never christx30 Nov 2015 #33
I too, pretend that abuse will never be born from a chain of events. LanternWaste Nov 2015 #39
Agree 1000% Demeter Nov 2015 #35
In China, each citizen has a identity card, without which one cannot even take a bus to work. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2015 #42
Lets see......................... turbinetree Nov 2015 #16
What a joke. sulphurdunn Nov 2015 #18
I wonder how many "digital nomads" are going to get nabbed by this. n/t Turborama Nov 2015 #21
Seems to me its getting more difficult yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #24
+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #44
If you can afford a trip overseas, you can afford to pay your taxes you lazy bums! 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #28
How ANY Liberal can think this is a good idea is utterly beyond me. n/t broadcaster75201 Nov 2015 #34
+1 CharlotteVale Nov 2015 #36
Well, explain why. FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #40
Cause it is wrapped around the idea of "tax cheats" dixiegrrrrl Nov 2015 #43
+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #45
It'll box up the guy who gets screwed by the AMT, but not mega-millionaires in Switzerland thebighobgoblin Nov 2015 #37
... AngryAmish Nov 2015 #48
This law will be before the courts before the ink jaysunb Nov 2015 #49
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