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65. Who leaves small children alone and go out?

Reply to Fantastic Anarchist (Original post)

Thu Nov 26, 2015, 07:51 AM

Nov 2015

I cannot even fathom that level of irresponsibility. She clearly is an irresponsible mother, and the fathers and boyfriends involved sketch a pretty bleak picture of general irresponsibility in all the "adults" involved here. Yes, I'm being judgmental. But a baby is dead, and 3 other children are scarred for life, because the people who were supposed to protect them had left them alone in the apartment.

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Texas toddler dies after siblings put her in oven [View all] Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2015 OP

The oven had toppled over with the door face down on the floor. Kalidurga Nov 2015 #1

That jumped out to me, too. Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2015 #4

They put a kid inside an oven and turned it on. LisaL Nov 2015 #7

Some Republican candidates... Helen Borg Nov 2015 #63

Notice they said a five year old was present too. Chemisse Nov 2015 #68

My assumption.. cannabis_flower Nov 2015 #94

I don't hink the kids ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #9

Hmmm, very interesting. Something was amiss, but never thought about an intentional murder angle. Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2015 #12

I'm not going to "intentional murder" ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #18

I guess we'd have to know more about the oven to know jberryhill Nov 2015 #21

You're right. NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #24

Just by googling I found a number of stories of children being killed when LisaL Nov 2015 #29

The dynamic forces a child on top could generate jberryhill Nov 2015 #30

so terrible. those kids ... everyone of them. ARRRGGGGGGGGGGGGH! roguevalley Nov 2015 #39

Perhaps it was a small stove? Reter Nov 2015 #72

If an adult wanted to bake the kid, they wouldn't need to topple the stove. LisaL Nov 2015 #14

What anyone "wanted" ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #19

Are you a physics expert? LisaL Nov 2015 #20

Did they climb onto it to reach the knobs jberryhill Nov 2015 #22

I used to stand ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #27

It is puzzling jberryhill Nov 2015 #31

It happens. LisaL Nov 2015 #33

Well, there you go jberryhill Nov 2015 #79

Here's another report cannabis_flower Nov 2015 #96

Apparently not. This book says a toddler could do it. pnwmom Nov 2015 #44

Honestly ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #50

We don't know whether any if the others were hurt. The coverage was pretty minimal. pnwmom Nov 2015 #55

Most new ranges do not weight hardly anything and come with the anti-tip bracket that really must LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #62

Every 'normal' stove should have one Travis_0004 Nov 2015 #76

The oven door was probably open... forgotmylogin Nov 2015 #49

From what police report says (in the OP), they admitted one of them LisaL Nov 2015 #66

This really makes much more sense, given that the stove was knocked over. Chemisse Nov 2015 #69

According to the police report, one child LisaL Nov 2015 #73

But imagine how they were questioned. Chemisse Nov 2015 #78

You do realize that this is a complete and baseless speculation on your part? LisaL Nov 2015 #82

Yes it is. So what? Chemisse Nov 2015 #86

Kids can do all kind of things when left unattended. LisaL Nov 2015 #87

Their story fits. Igel Nov 2015 #97

They absolutely could Travis_0004 Nov 2015 #74

I don't think so Kalidurga Nov 2015 #36

Part of baby-proofing is securing stoves to walls with anti-tip brackets. pnwmom Nov 2015 #47

Okay thanks Kalidurga Nov 2015 #52

I didn't know, either. But I knew a lot of things are supposed to be fixed to walls pnwmom Nov 2015 #53

Yep I heard about tv screens Kalidurga Nov 2015 #56

When my son was five pnwmom Nov 2015 #57

My first thought, too. NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #5

The child inside the oven was kicking the oven door. LisaL Nov 2015 #6

Which would have opened the door ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #10

Well, it did topple the stove. LisaL Nov 2015 #15

Maybe they were desperately trying to get the door open and pulled it down instead. pnwmom Nov 2015 #25

They could have had a small stove/oven that small apartments have. cui bono Nov 2015 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author AtomicKitten Nov 2015 #2

Words fail me. BlueJazz Nov 2015 #3

Me too. rusty quoin Nov 2015 #8

me three n/t jaysunb Nov 2015 #11

From the article posted ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #13

Sounds like mother was in a habit of leaving kids unattended. LisaL Nov 2015 #16

My sister used to leave my nieces unattended all the time. Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2015 #17

Forget the grandmother. There were two of them. One should have stayed home. n/t pnwmom Nov 2015 #26

No, exactly. NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #32

If a couple of three year olds were pulling downwards on a door, from that low height, pnwmom Nov 2015 #43

Me neither. NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #46

It turns out it's not so hard to tip an oven over -- even for a young toddler. pnwmom Nov 2015 #48

Yeah, the door is very heavy. joshcryer Nov 2015 #58

It will probably be a lawsuit if the parents aren't put in jail for neglect. pnwmom Nov 2015 #61

Lawsuit? LisaL Nov 2015 #64

I used to work at Lowes and would sometime deliver and install stoves. Quackers Nov 2015 #77

I do, too. None of the three kids is at fault, but they'll have to live with this forever. nt pnwmom Nov 2015 #85

That is not what they were doing. From a Daily Mail story: tblue37 Nov 2015 #60

i know, right? restorefreedom Nov 2015 #89

Wow. You're right. Chemisse Nov 2015 #70

It says "a" grandmother, which doesn't necessarily mean "their" grandmother jmowreader Nov 2015 #34

Odds are there is more than ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #38

Never worked in the media, I see... jmowreader Nov 2015 #51

Even without grandma, does it take two adults to pick up pizza and medicine? cui bono Nov 2015 #42

Horrifying jberryhill Nov 2015 #23

Another piece from a British tabloid. pnwmom Nov 2015 #28

Precious baby. Parents with no sense. 840high Nov 2015 #35

I don't know about this story. LuvNewcastle Nov 2015 #37

The father of the 3 year olds supposedly wants them. And he says pnwmom Nov 2015 #40

They make "anti-tip brackets" for stoves to prevent this from happening. pnwmom Nov 2015 #45

Fact #1 The parent is the responsible party! bob4460 Nov 2015 #54

Well, whatever happened, the adults in this are pieces of shit no matter what. PersonNumber503602 Nov 2015 #59

Who leaves small children alone and go out? Nonhlanhla Nov 2015 #65

And she is pregnant again. LisaL Nov 2015 #67

Shocking stuff Blandocyte Nov 2015 #71

This is so awful I can't even think about it. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2015 #75

This story is more than a week old and doesn't belong in LBN n/t LiberalEsto Nov 2015 #80

You know what the most fantastic thing about this story is? valerief Nov 2015 #81

Effect of a hot car would be pretty much the same as that of a hot oven. LisaL Nov 2015 #83

You're right! But it seems parents leave their kids in cars more than valerief Nov 2015 #84

How awful! prouddemfromaustin44 Nov 2015 #88

y'all can call me a republican if you want restorefreedom Nov 2015 #90

No flames here XemaSab Nov 2015 #93

can't even imagine restorefreedom Nov 2015 #95

So, there were two adults and one couldn't stay home with the kids? passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #91

yes, becsuse it often takes two grown ups restorefreedom Nov 2015 #92

This story begs for more details. Snobblevitch Nov 2015 #98