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78. But imagine how they were questioned.

Thu Nov 26, 2015, 10:06 AM

Nov 2015

"And then your sister put the baby in the oven?"

Scared nod.

"Did the baby try to get out?"

Sad nod.

"How could you tell? Was she kicking?"

And on and on.

I have little faith that either the police or the social workers knew how to elicit the real story from such small children.

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Texas toddler dies after siblings put her in oven [View all] Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2015 OP

The oven had toppled over with the door face down on the floor. Kalidurga Nov 2015 #1

That jumped out to me, too. Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2015 #4

They put a kid inside an oven and turned it on. LisaL Nov 2015 #7

Some Republican candidates... Helen Borg Nov 2015 #63

Notice they said a five year old was present too. Chemisse Nov 2015 #68

My assumption.. cannabis_flower Nov 2015 #94

I don't hink the kids ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #9

Hmmm, very interesting. Something was amiss, but never thought about an intentional murder angle. Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2015 #12

I'm not going to "intentional murder" ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #18

I guess we'd have to know more about the oven to know jberryhill Nov 2015 #21

You're right. NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #24

Just by googling I found a number of stories of children being killed when LisaL Nov 2015 #29

The dynamic forces a child on top could generate jberryhill Nov 2015 #30

so terrible. those kids ... everyone of them. ARRRGGGGGGGGGGGGH! roguevalley Nov 2015 #39

Perhaps it was a small stove? Reter Nov 2015 #72

If an adult wanted to bake the kid, they wouldn't need to topple the stove. LisaL Nov 2015 #14

What anyone "wanted" ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #19

Are you a physics expert? LisaL Nov 2015 #20

Did they climb onto it to reach the knobs jberryhill Nov 2015 #22

I used to stand ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #27

It is puzzling jberryhill Nov 2015 #31

It happens. LisaL Nov 2015 #33

Well, there you go jberryhill Nov 2015 #79

Here's another report cannabis_flower Nov 2015 #96

Apparently not. This book says a toddler could do it. pnwmom Nov 2015 #44

Honestly ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #50

We don't know whether any if the others were hurt. The coverage was pretty minimal. pnwmom Nov 2015 #55

Most new ranges do not weight hardly anything and come with the anti-tip bracket that really must LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #62

Every 'normal' stove should have one Travis_0004 Nov 2015 #76

The oven door was probably open... forgotmylogin Nov 2015 #49

From what police report says (in the OP), they admitted one of them LisaL Nov 2015 #66

This really makes much more sense, given that the stove was knocked over. Chemisse Nov 2015 #69

According to the police report, one child LisaL Nov 2015 #73

But imagine how they were questioned. Chemisse Nov 2015 #78

You do realize that this is a complete and baseless speculation on your part? LisaL Nov 2015 #82

Yes it is. So what? Chemisse Nov 2015 #86

Kids can do all kind of things when left unattended. LisaL Nov 2015 #87

Their story fits. Igel Nov 2015 #97

They absolutely could Travis_0004 Nov 2015 #74

I don't think so Kalidurga Nov 2015 #36

Part of baby-proofing is securing stoves to walls with anti-tip brackets. pnwmom Nov 2015 #47

Okay thanks Kalidurga Nov 2015 #52

I didn't know, either. But I knew a lot of things are supposed to be fixed to walls pnwmom Nov 2015 #53

Yep I heard about tv screens Kalidurga Nov 2015 #56

When my son was five pnwmom Nov 2015 #57

My first thought, too. NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #5

The child inside the oven was kicking the oven door. LisaL Nov 2015 #6

Which would have opened the door ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #10

Well, it did topple the stove. LisaL Nov 2015 #15

Maybe they were desperately trying to get the door open and pulled it down instead. pnwmom Nov 2015 #25

They could have had a small stove/oven that small apartments have. cui bono Nov 2015 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author AtomicKitten Nov 2015 #2

Words fail me. BlueJazz Nov 2015 #3

Me too. rusty quoin Nov 2015 #8

me three n/t jaysunb Nov 2015 #11

From the article posted ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #13

Sounds like mother was in a habit of leaving kids unattended. LisaL Nov 2015 #16

My sister used to leave my nieces unattended all the time. Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2015 #17

Forget the grandmother. There were two of them. One should have stayed home. n/t pnwmom Nov 2015 #26

No, exactly. NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #32

If a couple of three year olds were pulling downwards on a door, from that low height, pnwmom Nov 2015 #43

Me neither. NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #46

It turns out it's not so hard to tip an oven over -- even for a young toddler. pnwmom Nov 2015 #48

Yeah, the door is very heavy. joshcryer Nov 2015 #58

It will probably be a lawsuit if the parents aren't put in jail for neglect. pnwmom Nov 2015 #61

Lawsuit? LisaL Nov 2015 #64

I used to work at Lowes and would sometime deliver and install stoves. Quackers Nov 2015 #77

I do, too. None of the three kids is at fault, but they'll have to live with this forever. nt pnwmom Nov 2015 #85

That is not what they were doing. From a Daily Mail story: tblue37 Nov 2015 #60

i know, right? restorefreedom Nov 2015 #89

Wow. You're right. Chemisse Nov 2015 #70

It says "a" grandmother, which doesn't necessarily mean "their" grandmother jmowreader Nov 2015 #34

Odds are there is more than ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #38

Never worked in the media, I see... jmowreader Nov 2015 #51

Even without grandma, does it take two adults to pick up pizza and medicine? cui bono Nov 2015 #42

Horrifying jberryhill Nov 2015 #23

Another piece from a British tabloid. pnwmom Nov 2015 #28

Precious baby. Parents with no sense. 840high Nov 2015 #35

I don't know about this story. LuvNewcastle Nov 2015 #37

The father of the 3 year olds supposedly wants them. And he says pnwmom Nov 2015 #40

They make "anti-tip brackets" for stoves to prevent this from happening. pnwmom Nov 2015 #45

Fact #1 The parent is the responsible party! bob4460 Nov 2015 #54

Well, whatever happened, the adults in this are pieces of shit no matter what. PersonNumber503602 Nov 2015 #59

Who leaves small children alone and go out? Nonhlanhla Nov 2015 #65

And she is pregnant again. LisaL Nov 2015 #67

Shocking stuff Blandocyte Nov 2015 #71

This is so awful I can't even think about it. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2015 #75

This story is more than a week old and doesn't belong in LBN n/t LiberalEsto Nov 2015 #80

You know what the most fantastic thing about this story is? valerief Nov 2015 #81

Effect of a hot car would be pretty much the same as that of a hot oven. LisaL Nov 2015 #83

You're right! But it seems parents leave their kids in cars more than valerief Nov 2015 #84

How awful! prouddemfromaustin44 Nov 2015 #88

y'all can call me a republican if you want restorefreedom Nov 2015 #90

No flames here XemaSab Nov 2015 #93

can't even imagine restorefreedom Nov 2015 #95

So, there were two adults and one couldn't stay home with the kids? passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #91

yes, becsuse it often takes two grown ups restorefreedom Nov 2015 #92

This story begs for more details. Snobblevitch Nov 2015 #98