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21. I think Ted Cruz has a good chance of winning the nomination and no chance of becoming President

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 09:51 PM

Nov 2015

Most important to the point, he is an American citizen and Mr. Grayson should not waste his time or ours. Although Mr. Cruz was born in in Calgary, Alberta, his mother is from Delaware, which normally is enough for him to claim American citizenship. Mr. Cruz also held dual citizenship as a Canadian. He renounced his Canadian citizenship in 2014, but I don't think that was necessary since US law does not recognize dual citizenship and therefore has never considered Mr. Cruz to have been a Canadian citizen.

Although it is sometimes embarrassing admit it, Mr. Cruz is no less an American than I.

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House Dem Threatens To File Suit If Cruz Wins Nomination [View all] big_dog Nov 2015 OP

0% chance of Cruz winning their nomination. nt onehandle Nov 2015 #1

Why? elljay Nov 2015 #2

They are crazy enough, but if he wins the nom I dont want Alan to sue because randys1 Nov 2015 #7

in all seriousness, who could win? AnAzulTexas Nov 2015 #49

Predictwise has him at 14% to get the nomination dsc Nov 2015 #9

It's going to be Rubio. onehandle Nov 2015 #10

I think it will likely be him dsc Nov 2015 #17

Why wait, sue now persuadable Nov 2015 #25

How would that be a constitutional crisis? eggplant Nov 2015 #34

Not at all, and it works into our hands very nicely jmowreader Nov 2015 #59

It is a publicity stunt. former9thward Nov 2015 #72

I agree AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #45

Now, this is the same GOP that screams about Obama bring 'unfit for office' non-stop. forest444 Nov 2015 #3

Except Obama was born in Hawaii, to an American mother passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #44

Absolutely. By "reason" I mean theirs. forest444 Nov 2015 #47

HAHAHAHAHAHA! If Kenyans cannot be President....neither can Cubans slingsam Nov 2015 #4

Hoorah! homegirl Nov 2015 #5

I hate to see our side stoop to the same level Marrah_G Nov 2015 #6

This is different. Obama: born in the U.S.A. Cruz: born in Canada. Chef Eric Nov 2015 #13

Cruz's mother was a Canadian citizen at the time. -none Nov 2015 #14

Are you sure? She was born in Delaware. Chef Eric Nov 2015 #15

Cruz has bee ask to show his birth certificate, but never has. -none Nov 2015 #22

Wrong. Cruz has shown his birth certificate. Chef Eric Nov 2015 #27

His Canadian one SwankyXomb Nov 2015 #55

Exactly -- so one has to wonder where the hell that document is. He's had Nay Nov 2015 #91

Correct ! jaysunb Nov 2015 #18

Incorrect! former9thward Nov 2015 #73

The question of her citizenship is unresolved. n/t jaysunb Nov 2015 #75

No it is not. former9thward Nov 2015 #76

Really ? Where is she ? n/t jaysunb Nov 2015 #78

Who knows or cares? former9thward Nov 2015 #80

I see you don't know, so I'm going to keep asking. N/T jaysunb Nov 2015 #82

Doesn't matter, his mother was a US citizen, therefore he is a US citizen. Marrah_G Nov 2015 #16

Not unless she filed the correct US forms with the Canadian authorities and US Embassy, DhhD Nov 2015 #30

The matter is governed by U.S. law. former9thward Nov 2015 #81

True..... however, there's a big difference between born in Hawaii and born in Canada groundloop Nov 2015 #28

I agree with you on this one davidpdx Nov 2015 #39

I look forward to a Grayson staffer posting here soon enough tammywammy Nov 2015 #48

Me too...but stooping is something Grayson has done before. passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #46

Do It Alan Grayson!! LovingA2andMI Nov 2015 #8

Bush's nomination in 2000......... mrmpa Nov 2015 #11

that one was a much more narrow issue. cheney was clearly eligible for the office unblock Nov 2015 #32

If I'm not mistaken Cruz did not renounce his Canadian Citizenship until he ran for President. Dr. Xavier Nov 2015 #56

The answer to that would have been YES, but he is to young to have been subject to the draft. happyslug Nov 2015 #84

I always figured "natural born" means on U.S. territory.... vkkv Nov 2015 #12

And vaginal delivery. If he was shat, it doesn't count. nt Xipe Totec Nov 2015 #19

. arcane1 Nov 2015 #31

Nope, citizens born to citizens out of the country are still natural born citizens Marrah_G Nov 2015 #20

I am pretty sure this is correct Samantha Nov 2015 #41

At birth, not by birth. Not natural born unc70 Nov 2015 #60

What you write is not the common understanding Jim Lane Nov 2015 #64

Wrong on a couple of points unc70 Nov 2015 #68

I still disagree Jim Lane Nov 2015 #71

The words have never been addressed by the Supreme Court DrToast Nov 2015 #90

No 'in vitro' presidents? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #29

I think Ted Cruz has a good chance of winning the nomination and no chance of becoming President Jack Rabbit Nov 2015 #21

US law does indeed recognize dual citizenship; I am a citizen of the US and Nay Nov 2015 #38

This will be fun to follow Gothmog Nov 2015 #23

Grayson is ALWAYS houston16revival Nov 2015 #24

Call me crazy, but I think the President of America should not be a smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #26

I agree that is what makes him ineligible. N/T Dr. Xavier Nov 2015 #57

I enjoy irony as much as the next person. Gore1FL Nov 2015 #33

Not for grayson... TipTok Nov 2015 #62

There's a really good chance lordsummerisle Nov 2015 #35

IMO, same issue because he could become POTUS. n/t Hepburn Nov 2015 #66

Perhaps it is time for the SCOTUS to settle this question sadoldgirl Nov 2015 #36

Where is Cruz' mother? No one seems to know, and what of his sisters? appalachiablue Nov 2015 #37

The big question n/t jaysunb Nov 2015 #77

Here is Politifact's take on this Quixote1818 Nov 2015 #40

Oh, that gambit. I thought it was gonna be about Cruz' intention to set up a theocracy... freshwest Nov 2015 #42

So winsome with his Princess Di eyes. (Bleah!) nt tblue37 Nov 2015 #54

Great! I contribute to Grayson because I believe his heart is for the average person. Akamai Nov 2015 #43

This will be perceived as a stunt. Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) should not file this lawsuit persuadable Nov 2015 #50

I'd like to see it, although the legal challenge will be quickly squashed. Ted Cruz, in all his 4lbs Nov 2015 #51

Act of 1790 was repealed unc70 Nov 2015 #61

It is current federal law. former9thward Nov 2015 #74

No argument Cruz is citizen, just not natural born unc70 Nov 2015 #79

This came up in the 1920s when a woman was elected to the House of Representatives. happyslug Nov 2015 #86

That act only established citizenship, not natural born unc70 Nov 2015 #88

But the decision to seat Ruth Bryan Owen was a ruling that the Common Law rules did not apply happyslug Nov 2015 #89

The Obama birther precedents are that Grayson wouldn't even have standing to sue Jim Lane Nov 2015 #52

+1 onenote Nov 2015 #63

His American mother makes him a citizen if she filed the proper paperwork for him. tblue37 Nov 2015 #53

My understanding is that Canada does not have a formal selective service; Dr. Xavier Nov 2015 #58

This is just too good for words! n/t Hepburn Nov 2015 #65

Two wrongs don't make a right. malthaussen Nov 2015 #67

Great. Birthers of our own. Just what we need. NYC Liberal Nov 2015 #69

I guess it's okay to be a birther now, hughee99 Nov 2015 #70

I think he is just stirring the shit. Grayson likes to do that to assholes. phleshdef Nov 2015 #87

Ugh... Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #83

The problem is the US Supreme Court has long ruled the court that decides that issue is Congress. happyslug Nov 2015 #85