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58. AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 01:18 PM

Dec 2015

On Thu Dec 3, 2015, 12:10 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

As is the Quran! nt
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1278146

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

this is islamaphobic bigotry

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Dec 3, 2015, 12:17 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Seems like a simple statement of fact. Where's the islamaphobic bigotry? Is pointing out the violence in the bible judeo-christian bigotry? If this is alertable, I'm missing something.
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Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: If this is bigoted, then so is the post to which it is responding. Both statements are undeniably factual. Why do so many people here think that Islam gets some kind of special protection?
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'France likely to close more than 100 mosques' [View all] MowCowWhoHow III Dec 2015 OP

They should do the same thing with radical places here. woodsprite Dec 2015 #1

UK Scarsdale Dec 2015 #2

Like they did in Rome back in the year 50? Drive them underground? L. Coyote Dec 2015 #8

They are not advocating for closing every church down though but that aside the government should cstanleytech Dec 2015 #13

Are you saying mosques commit crimes, not people? L. Coyote Dec 2015 #22

If the Imans in those mosques leftynyc Dec 2015 #24

I've been to Baptist churches that preach hate. Funtatlaguy Dec 2015 #37

What makes you think leftynyc Dec 2015 #53

It seems to me that they will simply find another way to talk hate. uppityperson Dec 2015 #63

So just make it easy for them? leftynyc Dec 2015 #67

I agree with your sentence starting "And". uppityperson Dec 2015 #87

We give too wide a latitude to hate religion in this country. It occurs across a RKP5637 Dec 2015 #103

Did you see today leftynyc Dec 2015 #111

There's nothing preventing them from studying gun violence. Igel Dec 2015 #112

The CDC and NIH are not actually prevented from studying gun violence. branford Dec 2015 #113

Religion, as far as I can see, has always been used as a controlling force often through RKP5637 Dec 2015 #115

Agreed. complain jane Dec 2015 #91

No, I am saying that people should be held accountable if they are trying to deliberately cstanleytech Dec 2015 #25

So you are saying churches are people too? Like corporations, they should go to jail. L. Coyote Dec 2015 #61

There are still 2,500 other mosques in France to choose from BeyondGeography Dec 2015 #27

Roman Catholics killed in America? Drahthaardogs Dec 2015 #71

Are you joking? L. Coyote Dec 2015 #93

Well, first of all Drahthaardogs Dec 2015 #109

Here is some background: Maedhros Dec 2015 #101

That is Anti-Catholic Drahthaardogs Dec 2015 #107

Ah. I saw "Catholics [were] killed in America..." Maedhros Dec 2015 #108

I addressed this is the reply here. Drahthaardogs Dec 2015 #110

In addition to shutting down the hate/terror mosques, it's time to take a long, hard.... Raster Dec 2015 #9

Yup, hit'em in their pocketbook! n/t woodsprite Dec 2015 #12

This is a drastic measure that could have serrious reprecussions. olegramps Dec 2015 #10

Wouldn't a charge of Sedition work? woodsprite Dec 2015 #14

Hey, as long as we protect the gunz, First Amendment AllyCat Dec 2015 #18

I'm sure they do already Reter Dec 2015 #59

There's a fundamental difference in how the two nations approach religion. Xithras Dec 2015 #69

The more important difference is the imminence of the harm Jim Lane Dec 2015 #98

I don't think we have much in the way of radical mosques here. Yo_Mama Dec 2015 #118

Isn't this similar to something Trump said he wanted hughee99 Dec 2015 #3

Yes. cigsandcoffee Dec 2015 #21

As long as France limits it to only mosques whos leaders were trying to get its people to cstanleytech Dec 2015 #28

How is "trying to get its people to commit violent crimes" determined? hughee99 Dec 2015 #42

Maybe people fromt he Mosque christx30 Dec 2015 #116

Is the Mosque necessarily responsible if people from that Mosque go to a protest? hughee99 Dec 2015 #119

Someone's word to open an investigation. christx30 Dec 2015 #120

That would seem logical, but I think "incriminating stuff" would need to be clarified a little hughee99 Dec 2015 #121

US to shut down 250,000 Protestant churches in America after Christian kills with a gun L. Coyote Dec 2015 #4

Well if the Churches are inciting violence. Elmergantry Dec 2015 #6

Religion gets too much of a free pass. For many it's another line of politics. RKP5637 Dec 2015 #30

Just make them pay taxes .. ananda Dec 2015 #15

okay so only shutting down violent mosques retrowire Dec 2015 #5

Me too NT Elmergantry Dec 2015 #7

watch your step on that slippery slope Bucky Dec 2015 #17

oh i know. retrowire Dec 2015 #20

Hey if the police do it here it will be all AllyCat Dec 2015 #26

Yep, that's the downside of it all. It will be used as a hammer. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2015 #31

And who defines what a "violent mosque" is? philosslayer Dec 2015 #54

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That was a real no-brainer! You could even say "obvious" L. Coyote Dec 2015 #62

no worries i understand the slippery implications retrowire Dec 2015 #56

And if shutting down violent places is the goal, hell... randys1 Dec 2015 #102

Exactly! This nation has an ample share of hate religion and others. And they get RKP5637 Dec 2015 #104

what about churches that preach hate? restorefreedom Dec 2015 #11

My opinion: Raster Dec 2015 #19

Well said!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2015 #32

i do think the proselytizing is a major issue restorefreedom Dec 2015 #34

The religions and beliefs that are hellbent on converting to the "right" way, ARE THE PROBLEM. Raster Dec 2015 #40

If churches advocate violence then yes they too should be shut down ButterflyBlood Dec 2015 #23

yeah and don't even get me started restorefreedom Dec 2015 #29

Yep, religion is another line of business and tax free. It's ridiculous and disgusting! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2015 #33

yup. another tax haven restorefreedom Dec 2015 #35

what about journalists and "news" channels that advocate hate? bbgrunt Dec 2015 #50

they are all on the continuum. restorefreedom Dec 2015 #51

slippery slope. Wow. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2015 #16

I have the feeling those that are radical will just regroup out of sight. It might even be worse. nt RKP5637 Dec 2015 #36

I schlam Marty McGraw Dec 2015 #57

That is my thought also. Shutting down a building does not stop thoughts and talk and does uppityperson Dec 2015 #64

So much for Voltaire, lol. closeupready Dec 2015 #38

That's what Robespierre said, lol BeyondGeography Dec 2015 #41

oh, shucks. Well, there we go. closeupready Dec 2015 #43

Slippery slope, yes, but perhaps necessary MosheFeingold Dec 2015 #39

I'm tired of the "slippery slope" justification for inaction. Raster Dec 2015 #44

I agree n/t MosheFeingold Dec 2015 #45

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Ah, you missed the point MosheFeingold Dec 2015 #48

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I don't think we have a choice but to try. MosheFeingold Dec 2015 #52

When it comes to radical, wahabist Islam, anything goes, anything can be justified. Raster Dec 2015 #72

I'd say through history most religions anything goes rockfordfile Dec 2015 #105

+1 Mosby Dec 2015 #73

Good. Hatred should not be preached under any religious protective cloud. nt thereismore Dec 2015 #47

How did stopping them from meeting in 1 place ensure they wont preach hatred elsewhere? uppityperson Dec 2015 #65

Why have laws when criminals will break them? nt thereismore Dec 2015 #80

Asparagus. uppityperson Dec 2015 #89

So should they shut down Christian churches that claim that those that don't believe their religion cpwm17 Dec 2015 #66

Thats not inciting violence. Elmergantry Dec 2015 #68

In the US they are certainly inciting violence. cpwm17 Dec 2015 #70

Please cite me an incident Elmergantry Dec 2015 #76

Many preachers preach war. cpwm17 Dec 2015 #82

Sorry Supporting the idea of a country Elmergantry Dec 2015 #84

Negative, inciting aggressive wars that murder thousands is extremely destructive. cpwm17 Dec 2015 #86

*sigh* Elmergantry Dec 2015 #92

Calling abortionists christx30 Dec 2015 #88

No it isnt. Elmergantry Dec 2015 #94

Then there is no case against christx30 Dec 2015 #97

Im not familar with Scott Lively. Elmergantry Dec 2015 #100

I am doubtful that this is wise. potone Dec 2015 #74

I would be fine with that. Elmergantry Dec 2015 #77

Isn't it like the police entering a bar-room brawl? randome Dec 2015 #85

We need to reevaluate how we view all religion in this country ram2008 Dec 2015 #75

Well said!!! It's a third rail no politician wants to touch! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2015 #106

Perhaps this is an attempt by French Authorities to make muslims so uncomfortable they leave Agnosticsherbet Dec 2015 #78

All Saudi-funded Wahhabi mosques should be shut down, worldwide Dems to Win Dec 2015 #79

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Westboro Baptist Church blueman mmxvi Dec 2015 #83

And all they have ever done is engage in name-calling Elmergantry Dec 2015 #95

your username undermines your defense of WBC blueman mmxvi Dec 2015 #96

I was defending WBC? Elmergantry Dec 2015 #99

Maybe a timeout on all religious buildings being built rockfordfile Dec 2015 #90

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France has over 2,000 mosques, so even if they shut 100, it will be a small percentage. Yo_Mama Dec 2015 #117