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15. 'deft removal' = 'regime change'

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Fri Dec 4, 2015, 04:50 AM

Dec 2015

Only head chopping salifists would replace Assad.

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To Crush ISIS, John Kerry Urges Deft Removal of Syria�s Assad [View all] Purveyor Dec 2015 OP

Where the eff is the logic in this? hedda_foil Dec 2015 #1

Here's an alternative proposal from Assad and Putin Yupster Dec 2015 #2

lol. Russia has had no effect on ISIS at all uhnope Dec 2015 #12

Best to first wipe out the other opposition groups Yupster Dec 2015 #14

R U serious? LiberalLovinLug Dec 2015 #57

I don't think the US has anything to do with this Yupster Dec 2015 #75

There is no "Liberal" opposition in Syria. We're supporting fundamentalists. Oneironaut Dec 2015 #84

I was inferring the words "relatively speaking" LiberalLovinLug Dec 2015 #85

I'm lost unless somebody really, really wants a war with Russia... eom Purveyor Dec 2015 #3

We have enough of them here too...nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #4

shhhh. we'll be brought before "the committee"... Purveyor Dec 2015 #6

you're right uhnope Dec 2015 #11

Then explain this Cayenne Dec 2015 #16

Kerry is speaking of Assad leaving as part of a diplomatic solution -- ie what came out of Vienna karynnj Dec 2015 #32

There isn't any. mmonk Dec 2015 #19

It's like "crushing" Al Capone by eliminating his chief Chicago Mob rival. More like a reward leveymg Dec 2015 #22

Lessons learned from Libya no doubt...nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #5

john kerry lancer78 Dec 2015 #7

shut up kerrrry 840high Dec 2015 #8

Am I missing something here? Moostache Dec 2015 #9

Putin won't agree to get rid of its puppet Assad uhnope Dec 2015 #10

He likely already has, and that is why Kerry is speaking openly blm Dec 2015 #55

I hope you're right! uhnope Dec 2015 #58

That's because there was almost no attention given to the agreement in Vienna -- which was then karynnj Dec 2015 #68

Most news media haven't a clue what's going on, though they aren't shy blm Dec 2015 #70

So who would then be in charge of Syria? Marrah_G Dec 2015 #13

Yep, it's the SOS over and over again. Countries often end up worse off after RKP5637 Dec 2015 #26

It's great for the MIC but it's backfiring on western citizens as we see what's happening in Europe. CJCRANE Dec 2015 #29

because instability enhances exploitability reddread Dec 2015 #33

Yep, looking over the years, it's hard not to conclude this is the agenda. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2015 #35

Touche! Carolina Dec 2015 #88

Worked out well for the formerly secular state of Libya. Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #42

We never learn! Marrah_G Dec 2015 #46

Oil companies and western fianciers if all "goes to plan" for Kerry. hughee99 Dec 2015 #47

'deft removal' = 'regime change' Cayenne Dec 2015 #15

If anything that the ouster of Saddam and Gaddafi has shown, that getting rid of a dictator creates a power vacuum AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #17

Yep, we've seen that play out over and over again! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2015 #27

And Syria can choose its own replacement leader? no_hypocrisy Dec 2015 #18

To late, half syrias population is gone. The not bombed population are pro-assad. The Swiss could.. Sunlei Dec 2015 #20

It's a religious civil war daleo Dec 2015 #21

Tell me again why we invaded Iraq. Gregorian Dec 2015 #23

911! reddread Dec 2015 #34

It was harun Dec 2015 #53

Wait for it ... Benghazi!!! n/t Kennah Dec 2015 #86

Because yeah, regime change in Iraq worked out so well for us .... Myrina Dec 2015 #24

Actually, Kerry is speaking of a diplomatic end of the Syrian civil war karynnj Dec 2015 #39

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OnyxCollie Dec 2015 #25

In other words, put the sunni radicals into power CJCRANE Dec 2015 #28

I disagree. I will be just Saddam deja vu. nt thereismore Dec 2015 #30

If Russia can "convince" Assad to step down Bradical79 Dec 2015 #31

That does look like where Vienna was trying to get AND if it worked -- and had a lasting ceasefire karynnj Dec 2015 #36

I trust Secretary Kerry's judgement philosslayer Dec 2015 #37

He voted 'aye' on IWR Carolina Dec 2015 #89

The Syrian Army just liberated Homs. Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #38

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #87

et tu, kerry? restorefreedom Dec 2015 #40

Assad's father nationalized foreign oil in 1972. sgood Dec 2015 #41

There are more reasons Cayenne Dec 2015 #74

That's still about oil. sgood Dec 2015 #91

Excellent Carolina Dec 2015 #90

WTF? Half the things Kerry says are good, and the other half are just mind-bogglingly dumb Fast Walker 52 Dec 2015 #43

Assad hates ISIS, his successor will be much more aligned with them Reter Dec 2015 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Dec 2015 #45

If I'm following the news and read it correctly this week . . . Jack Rabbit Dec 2015 #48

Care to further elaborate on this line jamzrockz Dec 2015 #56

The Syrian civil war didn't arise in a vacuum Jack Rabbit Dec 2015 #60

Wait a min jamzrockz Dec 2015 #61

I'll dismiss your conspiracy theories as something that doesn't work for me Jack Rabbit Dec 2015 #62

Why not? jamzrockz Dec 2015 #63

Have a good afternoon, sir Jack Rabbit Dec 2015 #64

omg. Did you really write "I think the cartoonist beat himself up" uhnope Dec 2015 #71

Some of you Americans are so naive jamzrockz Dec 2015 #78

"you Americans?" uhnope Dec 2015 #80

Not Russian jamzrockz Dec 2015 #93

This neo-con approach worked so well in Libiya. Let's try it again! n/t MosheFeingold Dec 2015 #49

oh FFS with this level of stupid in charge we're gonna be on IS's side by *next year* MisterP Dec 2015 #50

Not certain we aren't already there. Anything to take down Assad. They will have to go through Purveyor Dec 2015 #52

Kerry: "Great idea! The war will be over by Christmas!" MisterP Dec 2015 #54

what a twisted, horrible and insane thing to say uhnope Dec 2015 #59

is he effing insane? magical thyme Dec 2015 #51

No, they may be planning to get Assad out soon as part of a deal TwilightGardener Dec 2015 #66

because we haven't caused enough chaos around the world via "regime change?" magical thyme Dec 2015 #67

Well, I certainly can't speak to the wisdom of our insistence that Assad must go, TwilightGardener Dec 2015 #69

neocon fantasies misread the "Arab Spring" as a sudden desire for democracy magical thyme Dec 2015 #72

I vaguely remember John McCain giving a speech when the whole TwilightGardener Dec 2015 #73

No, and if you understood even 10% of what you THINK you do, it would be blm Dec 2015 #76

Thanks blm obnoxiousdrunk Dec 2015 #79

Because we are not slaves to corporate media spin. We've been following the Kerry-Lavrov alliance blm Dec 2015 #81

Thanks again. obnoxiousdrunk Dec 2015 #82

karynnj is so much nicer about it than I am. I have no patience. ; ) blm Dec 2015 #83

Because the US media is more interested in entertainment and they ignore a huge number of statements karynnj Dec 2015 #92

What a dolt ... GeorgeGist Dec 2015 #65

What, no "munich moment" rhetoric? Scootaloo Dec 2015 #77

When you prepare for war, you are already at war. Gregorian Dec 2015 #94