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89. So it was OK to kill the Jew?

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 02:35 PM

Dec 2015

Do you really believe Muslims are so fragile they can't take opposing theological views?

Should they be spared looking at the faces of woman, as well, to prevent rape?

Should I remove my mezuzah and not celebrate Hanukkah as must the the Jews in Paris to prevent attacks?*

*http://www.democraticunderground.com/12231925

Must apostates from Islam be stoned to please Muslims?

That's all just absurd, of course, and I know you don't think any of that, but it's the ultimate conclusion from that line of thinking.

I probably have more theological conflicts with a Messianic (whatever that is) Jewish guy than I do a Hindu, Muslim, Christian, or Karaite. It doesn't mean I don't have a right to practice my religion or have to hide my faith.

Long way of saying, I don't care if the Jewish guy was an asshat. Sounds like he was.

But to even remotely justify terrorism based on the religion or politics of the victim is a very dangerous path.

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Investigators believe San Bernardino female attacker Tashfeen Malik pledged allegiance to ISIS leade [View all] magical thyme Dec 2015 OP

This can't be true, many on DU says it's just a workplace disagreement Democat Dec 2015 #1

Authorities are still saying it was likely a case of workplace violence Tempest Dec 2015 #2

It could easily be both. Tracer Dec 2015 #4

Except the way it was carried out was specific to his co-workers Tempest Dec 2015 #6

workplace violence connected to religious arguments. It's clearly a Hybrid Schema Thing Dec 2015 #11

It's clearly not Tempest Dec 2015 #14

Just stop it already leftynyc Dec 2015 #21

Plus his Isis fanboy pals he'd been communicating with flamingdem Dec 2015 #28

A duck quacking so loudly leftynyc Dec 2015 #33

Bingo. I'm with you. MADem Dec 2015 #47

Islamo-postalism I'd say flamingdem Dec 2015 #61

... coin a phrase Schema Thing Dec 2015 #65

plus d_r Dec 2015 #54

Sorry you can't handle other possible scenerios Tempest Dec 2015 #35

It must REALLY suck leftynyc Dec 2015 #39

The density of Osmium Tempest Dec 2015 #42

If you think declaring allegiance to leftynyc Dec 2015 #59

"Get help"? Another uncalled for personal attack. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #79

And I think anyone leftynyc Dec 2015 #83

What you think is not the point. Those posts are breaking DU rules. Live and Learn Dec 2015 #85

Go ahead and alert leftynyc Dec 2015 #86

I thank you. I got a hide 840high Dec 2015 #90

I am not an alerter. I just thought you might want an opportunity to fix your post and Live and Learn Dec 2015 #95

I sincerely, very sincerely, leftynyc Dec 2015 #102

How are they breaking du rules? 840high Dec 2015 #91

+1 King_David Dec 2015 #125

'Skank', now there is a helpful term. Don't you find that a bit misogynistic? Live and Learn Dec 2015 #78

LOL leftynyc Dec 2015 #81

Political correctness serves a valid purpose. Sorry you don't understand that. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #84

I agree, it does serve a purpose leftynyc Dec 2015 #87

That is simply not true. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #94

It could not possibly be MORE true. Throd Dec 2015 #96

That is not true. If it is not true, it can't possibly be less true. Live and Learn Dec 2015 #99

this SpookyDem Dec 2015 #127

Please, look back at the leftynyc Dec 2015 #100

Is it your theory that the way to correct a wrong is to commit one yourself? nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #103

Are you really trying to shame me leftynyc Dec 2015 #105

Are you hijacking Bernie's motto now? nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #109

My first reaction was leftynyc Dec 2015 #111

Not insinuating a thing and didn't mean to turn the thread in to a primary thread. Live and Learn Dec 2015 #113

I quite honestly didn't leftynyc Dec 2015 #117

So, you haven't really paid any attention to his candidacy? Live and Learn Dec 2015 #119

I actually have seen a few leftynyc Dec 2015 #123

Yes, political correctness is why christx30 Dec 2015 #106

Oh sure we should all report are neighbors for everything. Where have I read that before? Live and Learn Dec 2015 #108

And if they had reported them, the cops would have found christx30 Dec 2015 #114

That would have required a search warrant which they could never have goten based on such silly Live and Learn Dec 2015 #116

You'd be amazed at what cops can do with the christx30 Dec 2015 #122

Because that terrorist is a murderer and a skank King_David Dec 2015 #126

Plus the fact that the 6000 rounds christx30 Dec 2015 #124

No! You are wrong, wrong, WRONG! rusty fender Dec 2015 #92

Wrong. tabasco Dec 2015 #130

So they moved up the date and changed the target. TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2015 #34

Many Americans in Afghanistan were killed training their coworkers. Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #75

They had been planning this for weeks or months Democat Dec 2015 #5

Where is your evidence of the planning? Credible sources. Tempest Dec 2015 #8

They had 12 pipe bombs at the house and destroyed evidence in advance Democat Dec 2015 #12

Sorry, I don't accept the Moonie Times as a credible source. Tempest Dec 2015 #16

That's understandable Democat Dec 2015 #19

They had bombs in their home. They had at least a thousand bullets. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #15

The link is possible Tempest Dec 2015 #17

Pledging allegiance to a terrorist leftynyc Dec 2015 #23

Actually you are part of the problem Tempest Dec 2015 #27

Yes, I'm sure that leftynyc Dec 2015 #30

If you're an example of the Democratic party Tempest Dec 2015 #40

What an ugly, rude thing to say. Thing is, a Democrat wouldn't say the same ugly thing about MADem Dec 2015 #49

LOL no, they would just be sneaky and imply it. Demit Dec 2015 #57

It's become VERY necessary leftynyc Dec 2015 #60

No it hasn't. Demit Dec 2015 #62

Oh gee, I'm so sorry leftynyc Dec 2015 #64

If you want further evidence of the double standard when it comes to Islam, christx30 Dec 2015 #129

Yawn leftynyc Dec 2015 #58

And it is probably a mix of a terrorist attack (based on the preparations) and a workplace JDPriestly Dec 2015 #44

To quote an old Woody Allen film FiveGoodMen Dec 2015 #43

They had over 6000 rounds of ammo. Nt Mosby Dec 2015 #53

Ummm wrong, GGJohn Dec 2015 #10

Possible Tempest Dec 2015 #18

They had all that ammo to 840high Dec 2015 #93

Better catch up. GGJohn Dec 2015 #13

What authorities are you quoting? This attack had to be very well planned. They had an arsenal at totodeinhere Dec 2015 #98

FBI investigating San Bernardino shooting as act of terrorism magical thyme Dec 2015 #115

Bush is to blame, this is pretty evident given he started all this shit. randys1 Dec 2015 #29

Shocking... Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #3

I had a feeling it was something like this. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #7

Yep. ck4829 Dec 2015 #22

but they'd have no trouble buying all the weapons they want RussBLib Dec 2015 #9

You would think if anything was going to get the pro gun folks to the table, this would be it. randys1 Dec 2015 #36

Illegally modified rifles MosheFeingold Dec 2015 #48

And the same gun shop that sells the rifle sells the kits to adapt them, is what I have heard. randys1 Dec 2015 #51

Probably MosheFeingold Dec 2015 #56

yes, you would think-- but witness the Senate vote last night Fast Walker 52 Dec 2015 #67

does this help at all in understanding the motive? 6chars Dec 2015 #20

I think it's as clear as the leftynyc Dec 2015 #25

The visit to Saudi Arabia. earthside Dec 2015 #31

100% agree leftynyc Dec 2015 #37

good way to characterize it 6chars Dec 2015 #128

are you kidding? Fast Walker 52 Dec 2015 #71

11/16/2015 Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #24

I'd be pretty embarrassed if 1)I was a supporter of Internet surveillance to prevent terrorism OR 2) alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #26

huh? Fast Walker 52 Dec 2015 #70

Nothing - for good or ill! alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #72

what's not clear is why the Facebook page of ISIS or Baghdadi isn't being watched like a hawk by the Fast Walker 52 Dec 2015 #73

Nothing is being watched like a hawk alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #74

if anything is being wached, wouldn't it be the ISIS Facebook page???? Fast Walker 52 Dec 2015 #77

Quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, looks like a duck, poops like a duck............... Kilgore Dec 2015 #32

There was an interesting interview a local LA station LibDemAlways Dec 2015 #38

Oh come on, it is just a harmless bunny still_one Dec 2015 #41

Sounds like lone terrorism... if that makes sense Blasphemer Dec 2015 #45

nope. they had already found and been investigating communications magical thyme Dec 2015 #80

The bombs were classic ISIS design MosheFeingold Dec 2015 #46

from what I've read, the messianic Jewish guy had a facebook page filled with hate for magical thyme Dec 2015 #82

So it was OK to kill the Jew? MosheFeingold Dec 2015 #89

Nobody is saying "it was OK to kill the Jew". That's quite a stretch. arcane1 Dec 2015 #97

Yes MosheFeingold Dec 2015 #101

Sorry, I missed that part :) arcane1 Dec 2015 #104

offs, I never even remotely suggested that line of thinking magical thyme Dec 2015 #110

How I met your mother GusBob Dec 2015 #50

I said that yesterday. Got finger-wagged by one DUer. valerief Dec 2015 #55

Sorry you got the finger wag leftynyc Dec 2015 #63

Bingo! These bastards hate women, just like our radicalized U.S. Congress does. nt valerief Dec 2015 #66

Well, leftynyc Dec 2015 #69

If our U.S. Congress could get away with treating women the way radical Islamists valerief Dec 2015 #76

Islam Is A Religion Of Peace SoCalMusicLover Dec 2015 #52

And Christianity is a religion of peace. That's why health clinics serving women are shot up. nt valerief Dec 2015 #68

Huh? "The officials did not explain how they knew Malik made the post" arcane1 Dec 2015 #88

Maybe they have the phone or device that she used? GusBob Dec 2015 #107

Indeed, the only thing missing was a selfie n/t arcane1 Dec 2015 #112

rumor is they were wearing "go-pro" cameras magical thyme Dec 2015 #120

There's more GusBob Dec 2015 #121

per FBI, she posted under an alias and deleted the posts shortly before the attacks magical thyme Dec 2015 #118

Do they say the pledge of allegiance too? 6chars Dec 2015 #131