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49. What you say is true of domestic mass murderers as well.

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 04:05 PM

Dec 2015

A small number of "us" - however we define the community of people who live near one another - periodically decide to kill a bunch of us.

Their reasons vary but usually boil down to the same basic thing - the killers harbor resentments that fester until they boil over into violence.

It's as true of the unabomber as it is of this case. The attack on Oklahoma City, Columbine, the attack in Charleston, the attack on Planned Parenthood, the DC snipers - the list is huge. It's not about a particular religion or ethnicity. The common denominator is resentment and rage.

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San Bernardino Attackers Had Bomb Factory in Garage [View all] brooklynite Dec 2015 OP

but, but, where is the evidence..... still_one Dec 2015 #1

Some here will never see it. 840high Dec 2015 #4

Some here will never be convinced Democat Dec 2015 #11

While Farook was telling his coworker that Americans misunderstand Islam and TwilightGardener Dec 2015 #2

That's what makes this story so creepy. Coventina Dec 2015 #6

I guess it isn't our freedom that they hate... n/t Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #14

No, they use it against us. Our friendliness, our respect for privacy, TwilightGardener Dec 2015 #16

I never believed that dumb lie from Bushco. n/t Coventina Dec 2015 #23

As have many others. Its not poverty, its indoctrination. Marie Harf..... 7962 Dec 2015 #59

Looks like you are referring to all Muslims as "these people." Nitram Dec 2015 #9

That DOES get said around here every time there is one. 7962 Dec 2015 #61

^^ Lulu KC Dec 2015 #98

No, the poster was clearly referring to those who carry out violent attacks. Yo_Mama Dec 2015 #99

The post quite clearly refers to Muslims. Nitram Dec 2015 #109

Was he mostly defending his beliefs or attacking other's beliefs? Democat Dec 2015 #13

I don't think a loudmouthed overbearing coworker had much to do with this, honestly. TwilightGardener Dec 2015 #15

The person who reported overhearing the conversation said it was over Islam being a Yo_Mama Dec 2015 #100

How do you know these things that you're claiming neohippie Dec 2015 #48

How he "felt" doesnt matter. He & wife planned much bigger carnage. 7962 Dec 2015 #63

But it WAS political correctness. christx30 Dec 2015 #72

I think that the anti-Muslim hysteria is the reason they didn't report. yardwork Dec 2015 #78

As in they didn't want to contribute to the anti-Muslim hysteria? christx30 Dec 2015 #79

I think people are embarrassed by the hysterical over-reacting, so perhaps they under-react. yardwork Dec 2015 #84

I completely agree. That's exactly what I'm saying. christx30 Dec 2015 #85

No, the killers killed 14 people. yardwork Dec 2015 #87

What if they could have been stopped? christx30 Dec 2015 #94

That might have helped, or maybe not. yardwork Dec 2015 #95

what about a philospophy that holds one gender superior? Skittles Dec 2015 #111

What you say is true of domestic mass murderers as well. yardwork Dec 2015 #49

Different factors are driving these events. The white-guy shootings seem to TwilightGardener Dec 2015 #52

I disagree that there is any real substantive difference. yardwork Dec 2015 #77

I do think it's important to understand where all these people are coming from, TwilightGardener Dec 2015 #81

I agree, and we could use the FBI to track them. yardwork Dec 2015 #82

I truly don't understand Blackjackdavey Dec 2015 #53

You can't use the "they aren't assimilated" rationale like they did in Paris. Yavin4 Dec 2015 #70

It seems that perhaps she turned him rockfordfile Dec 2015 #80

My theory is that he was a lonely guy looking for a wife Yavin4 Dec 2015 #107

When are fuckers like this going to understand... JustADumbFireman Dec 2015 #3

Yes, indeed. narnian60 Dec 2015 #7

ISIS is murdering Muslims across the globe, in greater numbers than non-Muslims. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #17

Look how quickly other majority Muslim nations worked to stop the Syrian government from... Nitram Dec 2015 #22

but that is there goal... getagrip_already Dec 2015 #30

That's something a lot of religious types attempt to do rockfordfile Dec 2015 #76

when you think about it... getagrip_already Dec 2015 #88

The odd thing is that instead of concocting a plan to use all these explosives... Nitram Dec 2015 #5

They weren't suicidal. They wore masks and tried to sneak back home. TwilightGardener Dec 2015 #8

They were indeed suicidal. Everybody knew who they were and where they lived. Nitram Dec 2015 #20

They weren't suicidal. They intended to live and strike again. TwilightGardener Dec 2015 #21

No, if they were suicidal they could have used suicide vests and most likely they would totodeinhere Dec 2015 #28

Then why didn't they secretly plant all the explosives they made before making their last stand? Nitram Dec 2015 #33

But then why bother with masks? complain jane Dec 2015 #35

They tried to cover their tracks and they were not planning on getting caught. totodeinhere Dec 2015 #37

OK, so maybe they were just stupid. nt Nitram Dec 2015 #41

The theory that I have, that seems to be backed up by the timeline, christx30 Dec 2015 #54

I think that kind of stupidity is suicidal. nt Nitram Dec 2015 #55

I wish it was just suicidal. But it's also homicidal. n/t christx30 Dec 2015 #56

Yes it is. Like suicide by cop. nt Nitram Dec 2015 #57

Probably because they had another attack planned for them. 7962 Dec 2015 #64

they did, CFSense Dec 2015 #74

Seems like they planned to try to christx30 Dec 2015 #10

I saw an interview on a local LA station LibDemAlways Dec 2015 #12

If those folks had been wrong in their suspicions, well...Clock Boy part 2. TwilightGardener Dec 2015 #19

Deleting my comment because christx30 Dec 2015 #25

This is going to be a tough balancing act. Absolutely we do not want to cast aspersions at totodeinhere Dec 2015 #40

Or maybe it should be that christx30 Dec 2015 #60

Heck no. "Clock boy" isnt owed a damn thing. 7962 Dec 2015 #66

That's bs rockfordfile Dec 2015 #89

How else would you put it? christx30 Dec 2015 #91

They were religious nuts rockfordfile Dec 2015 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author christx30 Dec 2015 #24

Maybe the neighbors thought they would be publicly shamed, called racist and bigoted, and sued Akicita Dec 2015 #27

Well, if the police had received an anonymous tip and LibDemAlways Dec 2015 #38

I agree with you but who can be assured anonimity these days? Akicita Dec 2015 #44

agreed ! Angel Martin Dec 2015 #83

no it's not rockfordfile Dec 2015 #86

Where do you get that crap from? rockfordfile Dec 2015 #90

Well if they did have a side business repairing vending machines exboyfil Dec 2015 #101

You don't think they would have? Yupster Dec 2015 #103

Someone thought Clockboy brought a bomb or a hoax bomb christx30 Dec 2015 #108

clockboy did an elaborate con - snooper2 Dec 2015 #110

Agreed. n/t complain jane Dec 2015 #36

That tweaker-looking guy? Codeine Dec 2015 #96

"... tape, wiring, wire strippers and cutters, a soldering gun and an electric drill." mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2015 #18

These people had a baby in the house!!! perdita9 Dec 2015 #26

The baby could have been used as a prop to make it look like they were innocent parents. totodeinhere Dec 2015 #29

This appears to have been more than a workplace dispute oberliner Dec 2015 #31

Kind of looking that way Yupster Dec 2015 #104

I can't count the number of bomb makers I saw on doomsday preppers.... getagrip_already Dec 2015 #32

The difference is motivation. Akicita Dec 2015 #39

you give survivalists too much credit getagrip_already Dec 2015 #43

You may be right. I don't watch those programs. Akicita Dec 2015 #45

they are a hoot... getagrip_already Dec 2015 #62

There's no reason to have bombs or all that ammo for anybody rockfordfile Dec 2015 #71

That show was used to convict one of them. nt 7962 Dec 2015 #67

What strikes me is the simplistic way most people approach these things. Nitram Dec 2015 #34

Terrorists don't usually have a baby? Democat Dec 2015 #42

Once again, I'm trying to look at the whole picture, not pieces of it. Nitram Dec 2015 #46

If they were just planning to attack christx30 Dec 2015 #65

I have to wonder whether they child-proofed their arsenal nt LiberalEsto Dec 2015 #73

The New York Times recently had a long story about two women who escaped as ISIS brides from Raqqa, Yupster Dec 2015 #105

There was a suicide bomber overseas Akicita Dec 2015 #47

And what was the rest of her life like? Nitram Dec 2015 #58

I think they're terrorist and the guy who attacked PP is a terrorist rockfordfile Dec 2015 #75

just an ordinary workplace dispute rollin74 Dec 2015 #50

So who game them the $$$$ for all these weapons and explosives?? Blue_Tires Dec 2015 #51

Post 51 to get to the REAL question!!!!! Blue_Tires is todays winner! 7962 Dec 2015 #68

It all depends on what toys you want to buy, games you want to play, he was making a decent salary Fumesucker Dec 2015 #93

We may end up banning travel to and from the Middle East. hollowdweller Dec 2015 #69

If the area did not have oil exboyfil Dec 2015 #102

Might have been planning a bigger attack, tabasco Dec 2015 #97

I've wondered that, too. herding cats Dec 2015 #106

Sorry But I Don't itcfish Dec 2015 #112