Latest Breaking News

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)

89. Take it up with the ATF then.

Fri Dec 11, 2015, 03:53 AM

Dec 2015

I heard an ATF agent on CNN say they used bullets with 3 times the power of regular bullets.

Enough of the gunhumper tech talk weeds............ lets get to the bottom line.

More Than Half of Mass Shooters Used Assault Weapons and High-Capacity Magazines
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/02/assault-weapons-high-capacity-magazines-mass-shootings-feinstein

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

168 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

White House Readies Executive Action On Gun Control [View all] kpete Dec 2015 OP

talking points is right Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #1

Only a few states require gun show background checks. ErikJ Dec 2015 #2

but all dealers Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #3

EZ to get around. And the parking lot is where the real action is. ErikJ Dec 2015 #19

Sorry, but that's just a myth and false. GGJohn Dec 2015 #70

lol. Check this out. ErikJ Dec 2015 #76

I said rarely, and BTW, that NYT story has been throughly debunked, GGJohn Dec 2015 #77

Did you read how most gun dealers at gun shows sold them a gun anyway after they didnt qualify? ErikJ Dec 2015 #79

Why don't you actually watch the uncut version and then get back to me? GGJohn Dec 2015 #81

They gave them bogus info that would disqualify them ErikJ Dec 2015 #83

As I said, Bloomberg almost got his sorry ass arrested for that stunt.. GGJohn Dec 2015 #84

What does that have to do with whether or not guns are being sold without background checks? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #101

It has everything to do with it. GGJohn Dec 2015 #103

Are people buying WITHOUT passing background checks or not? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #104

Those videos were altered to reflect that, much like what O'keefe did with Planned Parenthood. eom GGJohn Dec 2015 #105

are people buying weapons without passing background checks? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #106

Private sales don't require background checks in most states, GGJohn Dec 2015 #107

Are they or aren't they? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #108

I already answered your question. GGJohn Dec 2015 #109

Then why are you denying that it occurs? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #112

When did I deny it happens? GGJohn Dec 2015 #113

Then WTF difference did THAT make.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #114

It makes all the fucking difference, GGJohn Dec 2015 #115

No it doesn't VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #116

No, it's not true. GGJohn Dec 2015 #117

I disagree. hollowdweller Dec 2015 #67

but according to your statement...it will do SOMETHING to reduce it... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #102

Sure. It is a very small restriction. Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #118

so what's the problem then? It won't be a further burden on gun owners. patsimp Dec 2015 #4

I have no issue with it Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #5

All sales should go through a background check madville Dec 2015 #8

In Pennsylvania Sales of Pistols can be done via the County Sheriff happyslug Dec 2015 #58

The "internet sales" one irks me madville Dec 2015 #9

I so agree with you Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #11

perhaps internet sales include things like craig's list, where it is individual sellers passiveporcupine Dec 2015 #29

a very small part and if that Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #31

and I am sure you agree Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #33

I think many politicians and people madville Dec 2015 #36

please do not confuse him with Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #37

Who is him? passiveporcupine Dec 2015 #57

Good for you hollowdweller Dec 2015 #72

I didn't shout or stamp my feet, passiveporcupine Dec 2015 #73

You can't sell guns on Craigslist hollowdweller Dec 2015 #69

Why exactly are you and your friends here? onehandle Dec 2015 #10

the Democratic party Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #13

Harmlessly passing your time in the grassland away; onehandle Dec 2015 #14

The 2nd Amend is now obsolete. ErikJ Dec 2015 #22

So all you need to do is get it repealed hack89 Dec 2015 #40

Or significantly amend it ErikJ Dec 2015 #43

Agreed- take out the militia part hack89 Dec 2015 #44

Or maybe only allow REAL citizen militias ErikJ Dec 2015 #59

No. hack89 Dec 2015 #60

Hunters could keep their rifles in an armory between hunts. ErikJ Dec 2015 #63

My firearms are just fine where they're at, in my house in my safes. eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #71

Try getting that one passed. hollowdweller Dec 2015 #75

No hack89 Dec 2015 #100

Well then it's a good thing that very few citizens have assault rifles. eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #61

AR-15's are hot sales right now. ErikJ Dec 2015 #64

Those aren't assault rifles, GGJohn Dec 2015 #65

But they can easily be modified to be automatics ErikJ Dec 2015 #66

That's false, GGJohn Dec 2015 #68

You can use a rubberband to modify an AR-15 to be auto-fire ErikJ Dec 2015 #78

Jeezus Christ, using a rubber band is considered by the ATF as highly illegal and will earn GGJohn Dec 2015 #80

lol! Do u really think a mass shooter is worried about whats legal? U a rube or something? ErikJ Dec 2015 #82

Any fucking rifle round will penetrate a bullet resistant vest. GGJohn Dec 2015 #85

The bullets they used have 3 times the speed and force of regular bullets which ErikJ Dec 2015 #86

Again, ANY rifle round will penetrate ballistic vests and walls. GGJohn Dec 2015 #87

Take it up with the ATF then. ErikJ Dec 2015 #89

that guy did not know what the fuck he Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #91

You just couldn't resist could you. GGJohn Dec 2015 #94

Exactly lancer78 Dec 2015 #132

The AR-15 is an "ASSAULT RIFLE" which must be banned from sale in the US ErikJ Dec 2015 #133

Sorry. pablo_marmol Dec 2015 #136

lol. U've been rube-duped by the NRA/GOP propaganda machine. ErikJ Dec 2015 #137

Yes. You can lie all you want.......... pablo_marmol Dec 2015 #138

Yes my 20+ years in the miltary Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #144

lol. AR-15 is heavily used for combat situations. ErikJ Dec 2015 #146

Where do you come up with this shit? GGJohn Dec 2015 #147

lol. It was INVENTED by the US Army as a lightweight Assault Rifle. ErikJ Dec 2015 #152

Fuckng LOL. GGJohn Dec 2015 #155

yes that original pre-M16 AR-15 was an assault rifle Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #159

Just what combat situations is the AR-15 used? Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #148

to bad there is no fixing Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #141

Please just stop Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #140

"Rapid fire up to 100 magazines" pablo_marmol Dec 2015 #143

better stock up on magazines Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #145

LOL! Perfect exhibition of Controller foolishness on two counts: pablo_marmol Dec 2015 #156

"Three times the power" of a 30-06? Marengo Dec 2015 #92

a person that does not know Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #96

What is a "regular" gun? ileus Dec 2015 #110

You have it backwards: AR-15's are 1/3 the power of most regular centerfire guns NickB79 Dec 2015 #123

NickB79: Exactly. Handguns ave. around 400 ft.lbs and AR-15 is around 12-1500 ft.lbs. ErikJ Dec 2015 #124

and you would be incorrect once again Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #127

Duck935: Yes it is an Assault Rifle. ErikJ Dec 2015 #129

sorry but that original Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #130

Duck935: Sorry, AR-15 is easily one of the BEST "Assault Rifles" ErikJ Dec 2015 #131

ATF definition Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #134

Duck935: More ErikJ Dec 2015 #135

M16 is an assault rifle Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #139

Your own fucking link proves you wrong about the AR-15. GGJohn Dec 2015 #150

lol. Only difference is M16 has a 3 round burst. ErikJ Dec 2015 #154

There are numerous differences between the AR-15 and the M-16, GGJohn Dec 2015 #158

So what you're in effect saying is........... pablo_marmol Dec 2015 #160

"faST AS U CAN PULL THE TRIGGER." Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #161

and you would be incorrect again, lol Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #162

........"Gun used in the San Bernardino massacre is a mass shooting mainstay" ErikJ Dec 2015 #166

you are partially correct about these 4 Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #168

let's take the ambiguity out of the 2A to cement its place in the Bill of Rights... sanatanadharma Dec 2015 #126

Keep on disparaging gun owners......it's a real political winner dontcha know! pablo_marmol Dec 2015 #165

Go and read the Heller decision hollowdweller Dec 2015 #74

Have you read Heller?? happyslug Dec 2015 #90

The problem is that is NOT the law..... happyslug Dec 2015 #88

Annoying you, while not a primary reason, is certainly a worthwhile endeavor. Nt hack89 Dec 2015 #18

Weak. Darb Dec 2015 #21

ooh, that was an awesome comeback Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #26

I see that I got all three of you. Darb Dec 2015 #119

Look at you - all morally superior and shit. hack89 Dec 2015 #38

Nailed it, obviously, with the three of you rushing in to whine. Darb Dec 2015 #120

But your only contributions to gun threads are insults hack89 Dec 2015 #122

of course we will respond when all you have is insults Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #128

Wow, that's deep, GGJohn Dec 2015 #46

And a triple! Got em all. I notice the rofl emojie is in two of yall's replies, must Darb Dec 2015 #121

And another deep, intellectual response. GGJohn Dec 2015 #151

yep Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #25

Maybe promoting Constitutional rights. former9thward Dec 2015 #20

Probably because of the name, thinking there might be some real ones here? pocoloco Dec 2015 #30

yep Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #35

Good question. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #42

glad we do not have to abide by your Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #47

Why? GGJohn Dec 2015 #49

You've been here for less than a month and already your telling us pro 2A Democrats to leave? GGJohn Dec 2015 #54

I've "been" here 13 fucking years. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #125

... GGJohn Dec 2015 #153

maybe he slipped up and outed himself, lol Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #163

It appears he didn't know that everyone can see his profile, GGJohn Dec 2015 #164

And who the hell are you to be asking? GGJohn Dec 2015 #45

some think so Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #48

'Them' onehandle Dec 2015 #50

Yeah, you really are. eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #52

I'm not a fan of DuckHunter DashOneBravo Dec 2015 #56

'You' onehandle Dec 2015 #98

Who the hell are you to be asking? GGJohn Dec 2015 #99

Standing-up for individual liberty is always part of true liberalism. appal_jack Dec 2015 #97

But it is legal for people to sell guns at a gun show without BG check if they are not a dealer. Hoyt Dec 2015 #39

it is legal for two private parties Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #41

Really Hoyt? GGJohn Dec 2015 #51

I will be voting for the Democratic nominee rockfordfile Dec 2015 #167

What recent shootings would have been prevented madville Dec 2015 #6

you are correct Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #12

All recent shootings would have been prevented without the Republican Corporate SCOTUS in charge. onehandle Dec 2015 #15

You really believe that? Nt hack89 Dec 2015 #17

and just how would that have been accomplished? Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #27

Why exactly are you and your friends here? onehandle Dec 2015 #32

I knew you could not answer a simple question Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #34

Why won't you answer a simple question instead of attempting to distract GGJohn Dec 2015 #55

I'll answer that......... pablo_marmol Dec 2015 #142

Really? GGJohn Dec 2015 #53

certainly not the San Bernadino one DustyJoe Dec 2015 #23

not to sure about that Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #28

The law doesn't require the receiver of the gun to be "prohibited" for it to be a "straw purchase". PoliticAverse Dec 2015 #62

seems like this one was classic straw purchase DustyJoe Dec 2015 #93

very possible. Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #95

Everything politicians do is for PR harun Dec 2015 #111

That'll mobilize the voters come Nov. '16, indeed. eom Purveyor Dec 2015 #7

It's s start mwrguy Dec 2015 #16

Do it SCantiGOP Dec 2015 #24

Yea but when finally? ArnoldLayne Dec 2015 #149

It is sad to have a Congress unable to enact sensible rules for fear of the Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #157